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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 11:39:31 AM   
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Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.



You really believe that conservative speakers and anyone who comes to see them deserve to be murdered, for being conservative speakers or trying to hear what they have to say.

Give me an example of one of these conservatives saying anything Nazi-like.

Tell me, is THIS speech Nazi-like?



How many nutsuckers have been murdered since the Bowling Green Massacre, Felchgobbler Gobbles?

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 12:00:41 PM   
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So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.



You really believe that conservative speakers and anyone who comes to see them deserve to be murdered, for being conservative speakers or trying to hear what they have to say.

Give me an example of one of these conservatives saying anything Nazi-like.

Tell me, is THIS speech Nazi-like?




I guess it's okay that not everyone can dig into the constitution and all the nuances of our legal system, but is knowing a small bit of world history too much to ask?

Americas "invaded" Nazi Germany because they declared war on us, after we declared war on the Japanese.

I guess, technically, we did "invade", but that was because they showed no signs of giving up, even after they'd been beaten out of Africa, Italy, France, Belgium, Poland ...

I guess we should have stopped at the Siegfried Line, let them rest up, a couple of years and try it all, again?



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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 12:17:11 PM   
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So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.




well not before becoming pals and a little foreplay

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 2:47:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.



You really believe that conservative speakers and anyone who comes to see them deserve to be murdered, for being conservative speakers or trying to hear what they have to say.

Give me an example of one of these conservatives saying anything Nazi-like.

Tell me, is THIS speech Nazi-like?


My point is that ideology doesn't change simply because one uses violence to impose it.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 4:46:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.

All of this insanity could be Trump using Nixonian madman theory to bend everyone to his will, but I have no idea how anyone could seriously look at what has been happening and not think that something is very very wrong.

You and the rest of the RWNJs seem to think that this is all perfectly normal, that it's comparable to or even better than the Obama administration... it's really quite remarkable just how self-deluding you are.

1. First off, we did not overthrow their elect leader, you seem to know as much about European history as you do about American history. Hitler was not elected to any position in the German government.

2. Would you have preferred that the allies helped them build gas chambers ?
You do realize that if Hitler ha been allowed to run unchecked you most likely would not be alive today?

3, You do realize that it isn't like Roosevelt woke up one day and decided it would be fun to invade Germany?

4. Has your hatred of America gotten so ba that you have totally lost contact with reality?

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 5:22:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.

All of this insanity could be Trump using Nixonian madman theory to bend everyone to his will, but I have no idea how anyone could seriously look at what has been happening and not think that something is very very wrong.

You and the rest of the RWNJs seem to think that this is all perfectly normal, that it's comparable to or even better than the Obama administration... it's really quite remarkable just how self-deluding you are.

1. First off, we did not overthrow their elect leader, you seem to know as much about European history as you do about American history. Hitler was not elected to any position in the German government.


The Nazi party won the most seats in parliament. If you knew anything about how other systems of government work, you would know that that is a victory.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
2. Would you have preferred that the allies helped them build gas chambers ?
You do realize that if Hitler ha been allowed to run unchecked you most likely would not be alive today?


Holy fuck you're slow.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
3, You do realize that it isn't like Roosevelt woke up one day and decided it would be fun to invade Germany?


So fucking slow.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
4. Has your hatred of America gotten so ba that you have totally lost contact with reality?


No, you've just got bad reading comprehension... or maybe you just don't understand irony or something.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 6:13:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.

All of this insanity could be Trump using Nixonian madman theory to bend everyone to his will, but I have no idea how anyone could seriously look at what has been happening and not think that something is very very wrong.

You and the rest of the RWNJs seem to think that this is all perfectly normal, that it's comparable to or even better than the Obama administration... it's really quite remarkable just how self-deluding you are.

1. First off, we did not overthrow their elect leader, you seem to know as much about European history as you do about American history. Hitler was not elected to any position in the German government.


The Nazi party won the most seats in parliament. If you knew anything about how other systems of government work, you would know that that is a victory.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
2. Would you have preferred that the allies helped them build gas chambers ?
You do realize that if Hitler ha been allowed to run unchecked you most likely would not be alive today?


Holy fuck you're slow.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
3, You do realize that it isn't like Roosevelt woke up one day and decided it would be fun to invade Germany?


So fucking slow.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
4. Has your hatred of America gotten so ba that you have totally lost contact with reality?


No, you've just got bad reading comprehension... or maybe you just don't understand irony or something.

No the Nazi party did not win the most seats in parliament. There were 9 parties, of the 3 right wing parties the Nazis were the smallest party. Hindenbrug, the leader of the largest party gave Hitler the position of Chancellor in return for the Nazis joining his coalition. The rest of your post is just attempts to reinforce the ignorance of this position.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 6:19:39 PM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Ex-Obama Official Suggests 'Military Coup' Against Trump

How do you fight "fascism"? Why, you have the military throw out election results and install people who dream about murdering the political opposition.

Of Course!


So I guess when America invaded Nazi Germany and overthrew the elected leader there, the US automatically became a fascist nation.

All of this insanity could be Trump using Nixonian madman theory to bend everyone to his will, but I have no idea how anyone could seriously look at what has been happening and not think that something is very very wrong.

You and the rest of the RWNJs seem to think that this is all perfectly normal, that it's comparable to or even better than the Obama administration... it's really quite remarkable just how self-deluding you are.

1. First off, we did not overthrow their elect leader, you seem to know as much about European history as you do about American history. Hitler was not elected to any position in the German government.


The Nazi party won the most seats in parliament. If you knew anything about how other systems of government work, you would know that that is a victory.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
2. Would you have preferred that the allies helped them build gas chambers ?
You do realize that if Hitler ha been allowed to run unchecked you most likely would not be alive today?


Holy fuck you're slow.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
3, You do realize that it isn't like Roosevelt woke up one day and decided it would be fun to invade Germany?


So fucking slow.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
4. Has your hatred of America gotten so ba that you have totally lost contact with reality?


No, you've just got bad reading comprehension... or maybe you just don't understand irony or something.

No the Nazi party did not win the most seats in parliament. There were 9 parties, of the 3 right wing parties the Nazis were the smallest party. Hindenbrug, the leader of the largest party gave Hitler the position of Chancellor in return for the Nazis joining his coalition. The rest of your post is just attempts to reinforce the ignorance of this position.

Nazis are right wing. Yes, we have that for sure. Il Douche was elected in minority and invited nutsuckers and nazis to form his coalition.
Its like history all over again.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 6:52:44 PM   
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No the Nazi party did not win the most seats in parliament. There were 9 parties, of the 3 right wing parties the Nazis were the smallest party. Hindenbrug, the leader of the largest party gave Hitler the position of Chancellor in return for the Nazis joining his coalition. The rest of your post is just attempts to reinforce the ignorance of this position.


WTF? Yes they did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932

1932-- Nazis won 230 out of 608 seats. The Social Democrats had the second most at 133.
1933-- Nazis won 288 out of 647 seats. The Social Democrats had the second most at 120.

There was no power bargain stuck-- where are you getting this shit? Hitler had the most seats, thought he should be chancellor, but Hindenburg resisted for as long as he could because he thought it would probably be a mistake.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 7:10:08 PM   
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No the Nazi party did not win the most seats in parliament. There were 9 parties, of the 3 right wing parties the Nazis were the smallest party. Hindenbrug, the leader of the largest party gave Hitler the position of Chancellor in return for the Nazis joining his coalition. The rest of your post is just attempts to reinforce the ignorance of this position.


WTF? Yes they did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932

1932-- Nazis won 230 out of 608 seats. The Social Democrats had the second most at 133.
1933-- Nazis won 288 out of 647 seats. The Social Democrats had the second most at 120.

There was no power bargain stuck-- where are you getting this shit? Hitler had the most seats, thought he should be chancellor, but Hindenburg resisted for as long as he could because he thought it would probably be a mistake.

If the Nazis were the largest party Hindenberg would have had no say, and Hitler woul have been prime minister. I get this stuff from history books, you might want to read one some time.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 7:26:00 PM   
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You should read a book sometime, welfare patient.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 7:33:32 PM   
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If the Nazis were the largest party Hindenberg would have had no say, and Hitler woul have been prime minister. I get this stuff from history books, you might want to read one some time.


You should probably stick to reading books at your intellectual level then, because you've got it wrong. I recommend coloring books.

At that time, the chancellor was appointed by the president as the chairman of parliament, and everything was determined by majority vote.

In Europe there are plenty of example of coalition governments being led by the non-majority within the coalition. Denmark's current PM isn't a member of the Danskfolkepartie, even though they have the majority of seats within the coalition.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 8:40:07 PM   
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If the Nazis were the largest party Hindenberg would have had no say, and Hitler woul have been prime minister. I get this stuff from history books, you might want to read one some time.


You should probably stick to reading books at your intellectual level then, because you've got it wrong. I recommend coloring books.

At that time, the chancellor was appointed by the president as the chairman of parliament, and everything was determined by majority vote.

In Europe there are plenty of example of coalition governments being led by the non-majority within the coalition. Denmark's current PM isn't a member of the Danskfolkepartie, even though they have the majority of seats within the coalition.

Actually my degree says I can read college level, and it is history so maybe you should pay more attention to what I say. Don't you know that one of the great myths of WWII is that Hitler came to power through legitimate means. Apparently you have been reading those sources that bought that myth. Back to the original absurdity of your comment implying there was anything wrong with the Allied (not the American) invasion of Germany. How many countries did Germany overrun before the US even got into the war? Of course they were fighting the US so how bad could they be.

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 8:54:43 PM   
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Actually my degree says I can read college level, and it is history so maybe you should pay more attention to what I say. Don't you know that one of the great myths of WWII is that Hitler came to power through legitimate means. Apparently you have been reading those sources that bought that myth. Back to the original absurdity of your comment implying there was anything wrong with the Allied (not the American) invasion of Germany. How many countries did Germany overrun before the US even got into the war? Of course they were fighting the US so how bad could they be.


So if everything is wrong, then how many seats did the Nazis really win in 1932? In 1933?
And WHERE THE FUCK did I say anything about the Allied invasion being wrong??

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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 9:42:00 PM   
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However imperfectly I recall, Hitler never attained more than 33 or 35 percent of the vote, himself. I don't even feel like looking it up, sorry.

People are arguing about nothing, here.

The Nazis never had anywhere close to 50% of the vote, everybody's numbers or other recollections all say the same thing, so what is all the bitching about?

In any case, out dear resident sister named blnymph is resident of that country, well educated, and would kick any and all of our arses up and down the street on historical matters there, whether recent, or 70, or 2,000 years ago.

I'll await her word on the matter. If she can stop laughing at us.


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RE: Sarah Silverman shows liberal compassion. - 2/4/2017 10:01:39 PM   
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However imperfectly I recall, Hitler never attained more than 33 or 35 percent of the vote, himself. I don't even feel like looking it up, sorry.

People are arguing about nothing, here.

The Nazis never had anywhere close to 50% of the vote, everybody's numbers or other recollections all say the same thing, so what is all the bitching about?


Hitler didn't win the presidency, but the Nazis won the most seats in parliament... it's how he seized power.

We're discussing this because of a digression about elected leaders... it might not be relevant to this topic, but it's a lot more interesting than some rant about how whiny BoscoX is.

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In any case, out dear resident sister named blnymph is resident of that country, well educated, and would kick any and all of our arses up and down the street on historical matters there, whether recent, or 70, or 2,000 years ago.

I'll await her word on the matter. If she can stop laughing at us.


Why don't you just google 'how did Hitler seize power'?
It might not be an in-depth study, but the basic facts are there.

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