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The Ottoman penetration into Europe in the 1350s and their capture of Constantinople later in 1453 opened new floodgates for slave-trade from the European front. In their last attempt to overrun Europe in 1683, the Ottoman army, although defeated, returned from the Gates of Vienna with 80,000 captives.874 An immense number of slaves flowed from the Crimea, the Balkans and the steppes of West Asia to Islamic markets. BD Davis laments that the ‘‘Tartars and other Black Sea peoples had sold millions of Ukrainians, Georgians, Circassians, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Slavs and Turks,’’ which received little notice.875 Crimean Tatars enslaved and sold some 1,750,000 Ukrainians, Poles and Russian between 1468 and 1694. 876 According to another estimate, between 1450 and 1700, the Crimean Tatars exported some 10,000 slaves, including some Circassians, annually—that is, some 2,500,000 slaves in all, to the Ottoman Empire.877 The Tatar slave-raiding Khans returned with 18,000 slaves from Poland (1463), 100,000 from Lvov (1498), 60,000 from South Russia (1515), 50,000–100,000 from Galicia (1516), during the ‘harvesting of the steppe.’ Numbers from Moscow (1521), 800,000 were taken and from Valynia (1676), 400,000 were taken. 800,000 from Moscow (1521), 200,000 from South Russia (1555), 100,000 from Moscow (1571), 50,000 from Poland (1612), 60,000 from South Russia (1646), 100,000 from Poland (1648), 300,000 from Ukraine (1654), 400,000 from Valynia (1676) and thousands from Poland (1694). Besides these major catches, they made countless more Jihad raids during the same period, which yielded a few to tens of thousands of slaves.878 These figures of enslavement must be considered in the context that the population of the Tatar Khanate was only about 400,000 at the time. (1463-1694) while sources are incomplete, conservative tabulation of the slave raids against the Eastern European population indicate that at least 7 MILLION European people-men, women, children were enslaved by Muslims.

Sources suggest that in the few years between 1436-1442, some 500,000 people were seized in the Balkans. Many of the captives died in forced marches towards Anatolia (Turkey). Contemporary chronicles note that the Ottomans reduced masses of the inhabitants of Greece, Romania, and the Balkans to slavery eg from Moree (1460)-70,000 and Transylvania (1438) - 60,000-70,000 and 300,000-600,000 from Hungary and 10,000 from Mytilene/Mitilini on Lesbos island (1462) (Bulgaru p 567) and so it continued.

The vicious destruction of Constantinople in 1453 shows the religious zeal of the Muslims, their hatred of Christians, massacres, destruction and pillage and of course, the enslavement of 50,000-60,000 people!

1876: Ottomans’ massacre the Bulgarians: Historians estimate 30,000 murdered, with 3,000 orphaned children, thousands of Bulgarians imprisoned or exiled and 60-80 villages destroyed and another 200 hundred plundered and 300,000 livestock (cattle, sheep, goats) and countle

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Will again given the chance, something else that is in that blood-soaked book of theirs.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x310nym

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The Ottoman penetration into Europe in the 1350s and their capture of Constantinople later in 1453 opened new floodgates for slave-trade from the European front. In their last attempt to overrun Europe in 1683, the Ottoman army, although defeated, returned from the Gates of Vienna with 80,000 captives.874 An immense number of slaves flowed from the Crimea, the Balkans and the steppes of West Asia to Islamic markets. BD Davis laments that the ‘‘Tartars and other Black Sea peoples had sold millions of Ukrainians, Georgians, Circassians, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Slavs and Turks,’’ which received little notice.875 Crimean Tatars enslaved and sold some 1,750,000 Ukrainians, Poles and Russian between 1468 and 1694. 876 According to another estimate, between 1450 and 1700, the Crimean Tatars exported some 10,000 slaves, including some Circassians, annually—that is, some 2,500,000 slaves in all, to the Ottoman Empire.877 The Tatar slave-raiding Khans returned with 18,000 slaves from Poland (1463), 100,000 from Lvov (1498), 60,000 from South Russia (1515), 50,000–100,000 from Galicia (1516), during the ‘harvesting of the steppe.’ Numbers from Moscow (1521), 800,000 were taken and from Valynia (1676), 400,000 were taken. 800,000 from Moscow (1521), 200,000 from South Russia (1555), 100,000 from Moscow (1571), 50,000 from Poland (1612), 60,000 from South Russia (1646), 100,000 from Poland (1648), 300,000 from Ukraine (1654), 400,000 from Valynia (1676) and thousands from Poland (1694). Besides these major catches, they made countless more Jihad raids during the same period, which yielded a few to tens of thousands of slaves.878 These figures of enslavement must be considered in the context that the population of the Tatar Khanate was only about 400,000 at the time. (1463-1694) while sources are incomplete, conservative tabulation of the slave raids against the Eastern European population indicate that at least 7 MILLION European people-men, women, children were enslaved by Muslims.

Sources suggest that in the few years between 1436-1442, some 500,000 people were seized in the Balkans. Many of the captives died in forced marches towards Anatolia (Turkey). Contemporary chronicles note that the Ottomans reduced masses of the inhabitants of Greece, Romania, and the Balkans to slavery eg from Moree (1460)-70,000 and Transylvania (1438) - 60,000-70,000 and 300,000-600,000 from Hungary and 10,000 from Mytilene/Mitilini on Lesbos island (1462) (Bulgaru p 567) and so it continued.

The vicious destruction of Constantinople in 1453 shows the religious zeal of the Muslims, their hatred of Christians, massacres, destruction and pillage and of course, the enslavement of 50,000-60,000 people!

1876: Ottomans’ massacre the Bulgarians: Historians estimate 30,000 murdered, with 3,000 orphaned children, thousands of Bulgarians imprisoned or exiled and 60-80 villages destroyed and another 200 hundred plundered and 300,000 livestock (cattle, sheep, goats) and countle

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And there are plenty of blood-soaked passages in the bible that depict senseless killing and the taking of slaves.
Countless documented stories and accounts of the Romans doing the same.
All waay before the birth of Islam.

The difference is, western societies have (in general) evolved to realise that it's not right.
Islam is still stuck in the dark ages.
They even kill their own if they aren't the 'right' sort of Muslim.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And there are plenty of blood-soaked passages in the bible that depict senseless killing and the taking of slaves.
Countless documented stories and accounts of the Romans doing the same.
All waay before the birth of Islam.

The difference is, western societies have (in general) evolved to realise that it's not right.
Islam is still stuck in the dark ages.
They even kill their own if they aren't the 'right' sort of Muslim.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Will again given the chance, something else that is in that blood-soaked book of theirs.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x310nym

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The Ottoman penetration into Europe in the 1350s and their capture of Constantinople later in 1453 opened new floodgates for slave-trade from the European front. In their last attempt to overrun Europe in 1683, the Ottoman army, although defeated, returned from the Gates of Vienna with 80,000 captives.874 An immense number of slaves flowed from the Crimea, the Balkans and the steppes of West Asia to Islamic markets. BD Davis laments that the ‘‘Tartars and other Black Sea peoples had sold millions of Ukrainians, Georgians, Circassians, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Slavs and Turks,’’ which received little notice.875 Crimean Tatars enslaved and sold some 1,750,000 Ukrainians, Poles and Russian between 1468 and 1694. 876 According to another estimate, between 1450 and 1700, the Crimean Tatars exported some 10,000 slaves, including some Circassians, annually—that is, some 2,500,000 slaves in all, to the Ottoman Empire.877 The Tatar slave-raiding Khans returned with 18,000 slaves from Poland (1463), 100,000 from Lvov (1498), 60,000 from South Russia (1515), 50,000–100,000 from Galicia (1516), during the ‘harvesting of the steppe.’ Numbers from Moscow (1521), 800,000 were taken and from Valynia (1676), 400,000 were taken. 800,000 from Moscow (1521), 200,000 from South Russia (1555), 100,000 from Moscow (1571), 50,000 from Poland (1612), 60,000 from South Russia (1646), 100,000 from Poland (1648), 300,000 from Ukraine (1654), 400,000 from Valynia (1676) and thousands from Poland (1694). Besides these major catches, they made countless more Jihad raids during the same period, which yielded a few to tens of thousands of slaves.878 These figures of enslavement must be considered in the context that the population of the Tatar Khanate was only about 400,000 at the time. (1463-1694) while sources are incomplete, conservative tabulation of the slave raids against the Eastern European population indicate that at least 7 MILLION European people-men, women, children were enslaved by Muslims.

Sources suggest that in the few years between 1436-1442, some 500,000 people were seized in the Balkans. Many of the captives died in forced marches towards Anatolia (Turkey). Contemporary chronicles note that the Ottomans reduced masses of the inhabitants of Greece, Romania, and the Balkans to slavery eg from Moree (1460)-70,000 and Transylvania (1438) - 60,000-70,000 and 300,000-600,000 from Hungary and 10,000 from Mytilene/Mitilini on Lesbos island (1462) (Bulgaru p 567) and so it continued.

The vicious destruction of Constantinople in 1453 shows the religious zeal of the Muslims, their hatred of Christians, massacres, destruction and pillage and of course, the enslavement of 50,000-60,000 people!

1876: Ottomans’ massacre the Bulgarians: Historians estimate 30,000 murdered, with 3,000 orphaned children, thousands of Bulgarians imprisoned or exiled and 60-80 villages destroyed and another 200 hundred plundered and 300,000 livestock (cattle, sheep, goats) and countle

Well, these pussies didnt hold a candle to the US slave trade then. They're a fuckin yawn.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Muslims still believe and engage in slavery today. Raiding, capturing victims, treating them horrifically. We treat them as equals, they see us as dogs and treat us the same given the opportunity

Enslaving the entire planet for their share of the booty is their overall goal, they dream of the day all of Islam is united under one caliphate for that purpose and for the greater glory of Allah

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Muslims still believe and engage in slavery today. Raiding, capturing victims, treating them horrifically. We treat them as equals, they see us as dogs and treat us the same given the opportunity

Enslaving the entire planet for their share of the booty is their overall goal, they dream of the day all of Islam is united under one caliphate for that purpose and for the greater glory of Allah

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Stupid question, how many MILLIONS of Africans were sold as slaves by Europeans?

How many MILLIONS of Chinese coolies were bought by European colonial powers as indentured labor through out Burma, Malaysia, India, and other colonies?

Look, there are no innocents on this planet, so quit trying to find one.

And of course, there are NO human traffickers bringing illegals into the states to work in sweat shops and whore houses is there?

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And there are plenty of blood-soaked passages in the bible that depict senseless killing and the taking of slaves.
Countless documented stories and accounts of the Romans doing the same.
All waay before the birth of Islam.

The difference is, western societies have (in general) evolved to realise that it's not right.
Islam is still stuck in the dark ages.
They even kill their own if they aren't the 'right' sort of Muslim.

So, does this sort of thing go through you mind when you're at the local supermarket, and the queue at the till of the burqua-wearing woman looks shortest? Do you look at her and think, 'Oh no. I'm *not* going to get my goods cashed up by *you*. *You* believe in killing people even if they're not the right kind of Muslim, never mind if they're non-Muslim *scum* like me'.

Do you regularly have such thoughts in supermarkets where you live, FD? If so, have you ever actually asked a Muslim at the checkout what his/her views are on how much he/she wants to kill you/other Muslims/etc?

Do you regularly come home from shopping at a supermarket that has Muslim assistants, breathing a sigh of relief that you weren't murdered?

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And there are plenty of blood-soaked passages in the bible that depict senseless killing and the taking of slaves.
Countless documented stories and accounts of the Romans doing the same.
All waay before the birth of Islam.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

And there are plenty of blood-soaked passages in the bible that depict senseless killing and the taking of slaves.
Countless documented stories and accounts of the Romans doing the same.
All waay before the birth of Islam.

Because the old testament is part of Islam.

No Muslims denies that any event in the old testament is not part of their accurate religious history.

They are only disagreeing with the New Testament.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

That's not what my Muslim friends here say.
The rise of their prophet has nothing to do with any christian doctrine.
That's what they tell me.
They despise anything to do with the lands of the cross.
Maybe the Muslims where you are think differently.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Jews sold plenty of slaves. Even circumcised them - OOUCH !

T^T

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Muhammad's history is that he married a wife who has mostly Christian family members, and he learnt alot about Christianity from being married to her, before he started hallucinating that Angel Gabriel, the same old testament Angel Gabriel, appeared to him and told him to deliver God's message.