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pqwinny -> RE: Not another Nature/Nurture...? Nope. (7/26/2006 6:59:58 AM)
i've always felt that labels in general are limiting, regardless of the context for which they are being used. However, language is a signinficant means of communication and therefore makes the use of labels necessary to a certain degree in order to convey ideas. Communication is the great challenge of humanity - most strife and animosity stem from differing perspectives which often times boil down to a difference in interpretation of the definition of ideas via labels. So while labels are useful, they can be dangerous when not allowing for the fluidity of influence of nature and nurture. Nothing in life is stagnant, all things are in a state of contiuous flux and i don't belive that the human psyche or spirit is immune to that. So while one thing may be true for me today it may not be in a month from now because of the continual influence of both nature and nuture on my life and everyone and everything that surrounds me both locally and globally. i don't feel that nature and nuture are absolutes that have carved within me some sort stone personality map. They are both ongoing influences and i'm glad that they are and that i recognize that, my life is richer because of it. just my opinion.

agirl -> RE: Not another Nature/Nurture...? Nope. (7/26/2006 11:19:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster That depends on what you mean by "switching." If you mean taking the bottom role, sure. If you mean genuinely submitting, then I'd have to disagree. quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress i have never met anyone in this lifestyle for an extended period of time that did not switch. Ditto LordandMaster's reply......and would be interested in hearing more. I am the dominant in my family....I am the Mama, the leader of four sprogs and THEIR sprogs, in many ways......I'm older, more experienced in fuck-ups and their consequences, I've been there in many situations.......I lead and guide with the skills I have. I'm not uncomfortable with that. That's just part of life-exchanges. I have limited lean-on capabilities. Being looked to and being leant on are very different things. agirl

crouchingtigress -> RE: Not another Nature/Nurture...? Nope. (7/26/2006 1:20:04 PM)
dark and i were discussing this in email but we wanted to bring it back out for other folks to chime in if they wanted... this is where we left off: can you have sub feelings as a Domme and can you have Domme feelings as a sub? me peresonally i think you can have submissive feelings as a dom and domme feelings as a sub....how ever my thread yesterday was incredibly enlighening and i now realize that is not true for all....thank you raven, tigresse and every one else who struggled to help me on that thread.[;)] i remember back in my slave days i could not understand switches, but as i started to learn more about myself, i realized that as humans we are so amazing, we do such amazing things, we can heal our own cancer , we can build just about anything, we literally are only limited in what we can and cant do by the thoughts that constrain us. so i began to open my mind a little, and i found that i am not A dom or A sub or A switch...just like i am not An artist, A Hawaiian or A daughter...all of these things are a part of me, but dont define me...even my body and thoughts dont define who i am... and so with that realization the world became my play ground....a place to play laugh and explore...people became these fascinating creatures that could tell me so much about myself, and were so fascinating in their own right, and i began to question anything that i saw as a limiting belief or definition of myself. thing like: "What doyou mean i cant have a million dollars with out a colledge education", "what do you mean pardise is a place you vacation and can not live there." and so i embarked on living a life i was told was impossible by many. And years ago i would have believed, but i dont any more , i know i can have anything i want in this life and contrary to popular opinion, i dont have to work hard for it. so that translates to my sexuality i believe i can have any and all sexual experiences, anything that brings me pleasure and i dont have to be limited by conventional thought of any group, culture or society. So yes i do think you can have dom feelings as a sub and sub feelings as a dom. Many things will turn you on in life, from the way the wind sways the trees to watching horses fuck ...Being turned on is something to be celebrated, and explored...not feared or suppressed..being turned on reminds you of how wonderful it is that you are alive...

Aneirin -> RE: Not another Nature/Nurture...? Nope. (7/27/2006 2:48:58 PM)
Well said crouchingtigress,I agree wholeheartedly,to me,as another said,labels are restrictive.

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