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Real0ne -> CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 9:51:17 PM)

yes yes and fucking more yes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjkFn-C2M2M

Davide Carbone, former CEO of St. Mary’s Medical Center in West Palm Beach, filed a defamation lawsuit against CNN after they aired what he claims were a “series of false and defamatory news reports” regarding the infant mortality rate at the hospital. CNN’s report said the mortality rate was three times the national average. However, Mr. Carbone contends that CNN “intentionally” manipulated statistics to bolster their report. He also claims that CNN purposely ignored information that would look favorable to the hospital in order to sensationalize the story.


its about time!







heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 9:55:23 PM)

You are happy about a lawsuit where someone claims CNN is putting out fake news, then as proof the claim is real you link to INFOWARS.

Seriously?




heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 10:04:50 PM)

And speaking of fake news:

quote:

While Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods, she did take aim at the network in an initial judgment in favor of a former hospital CEO who sued CNN accusing them of purposely skewing statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital. Judge Evans didn’t mince words in her 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, and dismissing CNN’s attempt to get it thrown out of court.


The case hasn't even been argued yet and Trump's butt buddy Alex Jones is already declaring it over because they proved malicious intent-- as if someone who is in all likelihood responsible for the deaths of infants deserves everyone's sympathy.

I wonder why the conspiracy nut is doing this now? Could it be because he sucks Trump's cock and is trying desperately to normalize his insanity?




WickedsDesire -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 10:13:55 PM)

HeavyBlinker RM licks too much wet lead-based paint.

Anyway I thought Trumpaloons said it was fake news and also very fake news - the 8 billion at his inauguration won’t argue: given it’s a physical impossibility for non-existent people to do so. Or was it the election was rigged and that he would refuse to accept the result…wait was it that he won the popular vote by negative 3 million and something about 3-5million, or was it trillion, ghosts voted for Hillary…I could go on all night…..besides its not like the deranged nutfuk goes on camera and says any of this stuff to the Americashire jackals…oh he does that with the BBC too so it’s not like he has it in for just the American media

That’s the President of the United States - I know! Christ on a bike.

The Night is Dark and full of terrors and hot water bottles





Real0ne -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 10:59:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

And speaking of fake news:

quote:

While Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods, she did take aim at the network in an initial judgment in favor of a former hospital CEO who sued CNN accusing them of purposely skewing statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital. Judge Evans didn’t mince words in her 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, and dismissing CNN’s attempt to get it thrown out of court.


The case hasn't even been argued yet and Trump's butt buddy Alex Jones is already declaring it over because they proved malicious intent-- as if someone who is in all likelihood responsible for the deaths of infants deserves everyone's sympathy.

I wonder why the conspiracy nut is doing this now? Could it be because he sucks Trump's cock and is trying desperately to normalize his insanity?





LadyDemura -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 11:07:54 PM)

I really miss CNN Headline News(what is now HLN)...it just showed the news without much political commentary or debates, and didn't stay focused on just one story like CNN often does. Now that Nancy Grace is gone, why can't they bring that back?




heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 11:22:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
quote:

While Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods, she did take aim at the network in an initial judgment in favor of a former hospital CEO who sued CNN accusing them of purposely skewing statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital. Judge Evans didn’t mince words in her 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, and dismissing CNN’s attempt to get it thrown out of court.



The initial judgment is whether or not the case should be thrown out in court. Your RWNJ sources are manipulating you into believing that CNN has already lost the entire case and is guilty of peddling fake news.

Here's the original document:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3467031-Carbone.html

quote:

CNN's motion to strike or alternatively to dismiss is denied


That's the initial ruling.

The reason nobody ever sues, say, INFOWARS is because only fucking idiots actually believe that shit and it's supposed to be entertainment.




JVoV -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 11:25:44 PM)

Hmmm... http://www.snopes.com/cnn-fake-news/




Real0ne -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/18/2017 11:34:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
quote:

While Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods, she did take aim at the network in an initial judgment in favor of a former hospital CEO who sued CNN accusing them of purposely skewing statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital. Judge Evans didn’t mince words in her 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, and dismissing CNN’s attempt to get it thrown out of court.



The initial judgment is whether or not the case should be thrown out in court. Your RWNJ sources are manipulating you into believing that CNN has already lost the entire case and is guilty of peddling fake news.

Here's the original document:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3467031-Carbone.html

quote:

CNN's motion to strike or alternatively to dismiss is denied


That's the initial ruling.

The reason nobody ever sues, say, INFOWARS is because only fucking idiots actually believe that shit and it's supposed to be entertainment.



Never been to court?

When a motion to dismiss is defeated it means that the case has a 'genuine issue in fact', that it is triable, I dont need to read it to know that. The judge pointed out the facts used to make that decision. You can accuse the ole big mouth flap trap of sensationalizing it but thats about it.

if thats federal and I presume it is, look up rule 12(b)




heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:00:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Never been to court?

When a motion to dismiss is defeated it means that the case has a 'genuine issue in fact', that it is triable, I dont need to read it to know that. The judge pointed out the facts used to make that decision. You can accuse the ole big mouth flap trap of sensationalizing it but thats about it.


NO.

The fat conspiracy theorist blatantly lied and said that CNN had been found guilty of putting out fake news. It's in the fucking headline of the story, 'Court rules that CNN officially puts out fake news'.

The ruling is simply that the plaintiff has met the bare minimum requirements to proceed with the case. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT CNN IS GUILTY. It definitely doesn't mean that anything about their story is fake.

Jones then distorted the news further by making most of his 'article' an interview with the other side's lawyer.

The thing about this is that fake news actually refers to something that is completely fabricated from someone's imagination-- NOT miscalculated statistics, or even ridiculously biased and manipulative stories like the ones Alex Jones uses to foster RWNJ schizophrenia.




Real0ne -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:10:45 AM)

but he didnt say cnn was guilty, wher?

He said:

Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods,


the court recognized it as a material fact, therefore a legitimate cause of action. lol






heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:21:58 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

but he didnt say cnn was guilty, wher?

He said:

Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods,

the court recognized it as a material fact, therefore a legitimate cause of action. lol


What?

There hasn't been a ruling on whether or not CNN is guilty... what kind of judge says that someone is guilty before there has even been a trial?

Look at the snopes link.

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-fake-news/

quote:

The court did not examine the overall practices of CNN outside Carbone’ complaint or say (or even hint) that the network deals in “fake news.” The ruling did not even constitute a final judgement in favor of the plaintiff; it simply established that Carbone had sufficiently proved grounds to proceed with the suit against CNN.


Even if they ARE found guilty, it doesn't mean the whole network is garbage.




Real0ne -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:26:00 AM)

in order for the court to rule on a motion to dismiss for failure of the complaint to state a claim on which relief can be granted, the judge in this case must decide if there is a genuine issue of material fact in dispute upon which relief can be granted. sorry

snopes 2 asshole couch potatoes? I'd take AJ over them any day, at least AJ gets the people involved on taped interviews. I have seen the snopes stooges get shit wrong all the time.




heavyblinker -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:41:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
in order for the court to rule on a motion to dismiss for failure of the complaint to state a claim on which relief can be granted, the judge in this case must decide if there is a genuine issue of material fact in dispute upon which relief can be granted. sorry


An issue of dispute does not mean that they are guilty.

If the judge has already ruled that CNN is fake news and they lied about the statistics, then why do they even need to go ahead with a trial?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
snopes 2 asshole couch potatoes? I'd take AJ over them any day, at least AJ gets the people involved on taped interviews. I have seen the snopes stooges get shit wrong all the time.


I actually started reading through the case itself, but believe it or not I have better things to do.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3467031-Carbone.html

Believe what you want... I really doubt that anything will come of this.




Real0ne -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 12:55:44 AM)

you cant have a legal dispute without a fact.

if that was the case it would have been dismissed.




JVoV -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 1:15:38 AM)

Legal disputes have nothing to do with facts. They are purely objective. Sure, many relevant facts can be presented to a judge and/or jury, in the absolute best light possible for each side, for the case to be decided, but absolute truth may never be known.

Except that OJ totally did it.




MrRodgers -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 1:39:22 AM)

The link is wrong, you are wrong because the only thing 'official' here...is a trial to determine the facts.




mnottertail -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 4:31:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
quote:

While Judge Orinda Evans didn’t all out declare that CNN was peddling in falsehoods, she did take aim at the network in an initial judgment in favor of a former hospital CEO who sued CNN accusing them of purposely skewing statistics to reflect poorly on a West Palm Beach hospital. Judge Evans didn’t mince words in her 18-page order allowing the case to move forward, and dismissing CNN’s attempt to get it thrown out of court.



The initial judgment is whether or not the case should be thrown out in court. Your RWNJ sources are manipulating you into believing that CNN has already lost the entire case and is guilty of peddling fake news.

Here's the original document:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3467031-Carbone.html

quote:

CNN's motion to strike or alternatively to dismiss is denied


That's the initial ruling.

The reason nobody ever sues, say, INFOWARS is because only fucking idiots actually believe that shit and it's supposed to be entertainment.



Never been to court?

When a motion to dismiss is defeated it means that the case has a 'genuine issue in fact', that it is triable, I dont need to read it to know that. The judge pointed out the facts used to make that decision. You can accuse the ole big mouth flap trap of sensationalizing it but thats about it.

if thats federal and I presume it is, look up rule 12(b)

No, it means that the judge thinks it is triable, a decent argument exists, there is cause to question. Another judge up the chain could dismiss it, or a sideways judge could rule the opposite.

CNN tried to have the case quashes, and the judge thought the case was not frivolous and deserved to be heard.






WickedsDesire -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 7:15:15 AM)

So was it fake news or very fake news, or was the reporting off it fake news or very fake news..or was it fake news with very fake news…or very fake news with fake news. Actually wasn't that how he was elected?

Do I get to birch someone or not? Hear me out… what if I just birched them all with a nice very fake birching etc

All that aside the article is viral gobble and just a way for the pinko trumpalooners to justify trumps every lying fukery as cold hard fact...and why the press have it in for mr tantrum unstable bastard...i still think he will go mental on the twitters - i had no idea he was at some bizarre mob event last night - his tiny grab them by the pussy claws must be itching to scratch away at his twat screen, like the mental spanner he is.




mnottertail -> RE: CNN officially puts out fake news (2/19/2017 7:22:36 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

you cant have a legal dispute without a fact.

if that was the case it would have been dismissed.

Oh, you certainly can. The court does the finding of facts. (which is pretty murky innit?)




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