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BoscoX -> Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 7:30:24 PM)

Pakistan is trying to stop Muslims from leaving a Muslim country and going to a Muslim country to do the things that Muslim immigrants do.

Put on your pussy hats and head over there on your unicorns, and lead them in a rousing chorus of Kumbaya, okay?

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Families flee as Pakistan cracks down along Afghan border

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Pakistani paramilitary soldiers stop a vehicle at a security check point in Peshawar on February 17, 2017


Hundreds of families were fleeing from both sides of Pakistan's border with Afghanistan Monday, officials said, as Islamabad continued a violent crackdown on extremists after multiple attacks last week raised fears of a militant resurgence.

Pakistan has accused Afghanistan of harbouring the militants who carried out last week's attacks, which killed more than 100 people across the country.

The Pakistani military said it used heavy artillery to fire at militant hideouts in Afghanistan Monday, after carrying out airstrikes on both sides of the border over the weekend.

Journalists are not allowed into the area and the claims could not be independently verified.

But officials on the Afghan side said at least six people had been killed, and the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) said the firing had displaced up to 200 families.

"Military fire across the border into Nangarhar and Kunar Provinces has forced Afghan families to flee their homes... (such) attacks forcibly displace civilians, violating International Humanitarian Law, and must stop," said NRC Country Director in Afghanistan, Kate O'Rourke.

A Pakistani security source told AFP Monday that up to 700 Pakistani families were being evacuated from along the border in Khyber tribal district "to protect them from any retaliatory attack".

Kabul and Islamabad routinely accuse each other of providing safe haven to militants, and the Pakistani government openly admitted it shelters the Afghan Taliban leadership in statements made by the country's top diplomat last year.

On Friday Pakistan gave Afghanistan a list of 76 "Afghan-based" militants and demanded that Kabul take action against them.

In a tit-for-tat move Monday, Afghanistan supplied Islamabad with a list of 85 militants it said were sheltering in Pakistan, calling for similar action.

Pakistan has already closed the two main gates along its porous border with Afghanistan, Torkham at the Khyber Pass and Chaman in Balochistan province. Officials said Monday they would remain closed "indefinitely".

The spike in tensions was triggered by last week's assaults, the deadliest of which was a suicide attack at a crowded Sufi shrine in Pakistan's Sindh province on Thursday which killed 90 people, according to a new official toll, and which was claimed by the Islamic State (IS) group.

A series of other attacks were apparently coordinated by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, or Pakistani Taliban), including a bombing in the eastern city of Lahore which killed 14 people and wounded dozens on February 13.

The emergence of IS and a TTP resurgence would be a major blow to Pakistan, which had enjoyed a dramatic improvement in security over the past two years after a military-led crackdown begun in 2014.

But critics have long argued that the government has not addressed the root causes of extremism, and analysts said there were "visible signs" militants were regrouping after last week's attacks.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/families-flee-pakistan-cracks-down-along-afghan-border-153615122.html




BamaD -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 7:35:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Pakistan is trying to stop Muslims from leaving a Muslim country and going to a Muslim country to do the things that Muslim immigrants do.

Put on your pussy hats and head over there on your unicorns, and lead them in a rousing chorus of Kumbaya, okay?

quote:

Families flee as Pakistan cracks down along Afghan border

quote:

[image]https://www.yahoo.com/sy/ny/api/res/1.2/GQ5NVXa1CKCGJuWUGebb1w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/012aa569a1ce5f64e9913534f6c4030e2d0fd20e.jpg[/image]

Pakistani paramilitary soldiers stop a vehicle at a security check point in Peshawar on February 17, 2017


Hundreds of families were fleeing from both sides of Pakistan's border with Afghanistan Monday, officials said, as Islamabad continued a violent crackdown on extremists after multiple attacks last week raised fears of a militant resurgence.

Pakistan has accused Afghanistan of harbouring the militants who carried out last week's attacks, which killed more than 100 people across the country.

The Pakistani military said it used heavy artillery to fire at militant hideouts in Afghanistan Monday, after carrying out airstrikes on both sides of the border over the weekend.

Journalists are not allowed into the area and the claims could not be independently verified.

But officials on the Afghan side said at least six people had been killed, and the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) said the firing had displaced up to 200 families.

"Military fire across the border into Nangarhar and Kunar Provinces has forced Afghan families to flee their homes... (such) attacks forcibly displace civilians, violating International Humanitarian Law, and must stop," said NRC Country Director in Afghanistan, Kate O'Rourke.

A Pakistani security source told AFP Monday that up to 700 Pakistani families were being evacuated from along the border in Khyber tribal district "to protect them from any retaliatory attack".

Kabul and Islamabad routinely accuse each other of providing safe haven to militants, and the Pakistani government openly admitted it shelters the Afghan Taliban leadership in statements made by the country's top diplomat last year.

On Friday Pakistan gave Afghanistan a list of 76 "Afghan-based" militants and demanded that Kabul take action against them.

In a tit-for-tat move Monday, Afghanistan supplied Islamabad with a list of 85 militants it said were sheltering in Pakistan, calling for similar action.

Pakistan has already closed the two main gates along its porous border with Afghanistan, Torkham at the Khyber Pass and Chaman in Balochistan province. Officials said Monday they would remain closed "indefinitely".

The spike in tensions was triggered by last week's assaults, the deadliest of which was a suicide attack at a crowded Sufi shrine in Pakistan's Sindh province on Thursday which killed 90 people, according to a new official toll, and which was claimed by the Islamic State (IS) group.

A series of other attacks were apparently coordinated by the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, or Pakistani Taliban), including a bombing in the eastern city of Lahore which killed 14 people and wounded dozens on February 13.

The emergence of IS and a TTP resurgence would be a major blow to Pakistan, which had enjoyed a dramatic improvement in security over the past two years after a military-led crackdown begun in 2014.

But critics have long argued that the government has not addressed the root causes of extremism, and analysts said there were "visible signs" militants were regrouping after last week's attacks.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/families-flee-pakistan-cracks-down-along-afghan-border-153615122.html


The only nation in the world that cannot protect it's borders without being racist is the US.




BoscoX -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 7:38:35 PM)

They are specifically targeting Muslims

How dare they




BoscoX -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 7:40:26 PM)

Incidentally, how many here had heard before now, that Muslims slaughtered 100 Sikhs in Pakistan during the past week?




Edwird -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 9:19:11 PM)


What are you on about?

All I know is that the Pakistanis at a few other convenience stores are ahead of the game when it comes to customer service vs. some Pakistanis at this one store nearby, which is why I avoid the latter.

Who's fucking with you, bro?

YOU, and nobody else.

You need to get out more, princess.






Edwird -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 9:32:19 PM)


BTW, we hear no complaints from you regarding 10 yr. old kids in Pakistan sewing together soccer balls for 10 yr. old kids in Europe and North America to kick around.

Of course not.





mnottertail -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 10:57:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Incidentally, how many here had heard before now, that Muslims slaughtered 100 Sikhs in Pakistan during the past week?

But what about the Swedish Massacre?




MrRodgers -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/21/2017 11:29:46 PM)

I thought this is why Bush II started the whole thing by allowing the reduction of Iraq into a sectarian war and deliberately allowing al-Zarqawi to stay alive long enough to declare himself caliphate of ISIS.

The neocons wanted this and they got this...Muslim killing Muslim and anybody else that gets in the way. In that they are the same race...racism doesn't follow.




Edwird -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 12:05:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Incidentally, how many here had heard before now, that Muslims slaughtered 100 Sikhs in Pakistan during the past week?


Not so incidentally, how many thinking people have read the first chapters of any factual history book and not ascertained that Empire or any effort to that end is not kind, regardless of cultural or religious background?




thishereboi -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 2:16:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


What are you on about?

All I know is that the Pakistanis at a few other convenience stores are ahead of the game when it comes to customer service vs. some Pakistanis at this one store nearby, which is why I avoid the latter.

Who's fucking with you, bro?

YOU, and nobody else.

You need to get out more, princess.





If that is truly all you know about Pakistanis then maybe you are the one who needs to get out more.




thishereboi -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 2:19:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


BTW, we hear no complaints from you regarding 10 yr. old kids in Pakistan sewing together soccer balls for 10 yr. old kids in Europe and North America to kick around.

Of course not.




See there, you do know something about the situation over there.

so why the need to lie about it first? Do you think it's cute to act ignorant of the world around you?

But I want to hear more about those soccer balls. So where is that thread you started condemning this?




Edwird -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 2:40:33 AM)


Child labor goes on in quite a number of countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labour_in_Pakistan

And personal experience with other cultures and their values is as real as it gets.

Quit being disingenuous and and in fact outright dishonest in ignoring the fact that I pointed out the situation as exists in Pakistan immediately following the 'personal experience' post. For a reason.

Here's the news, sunshine: people from other parts of the world are not so taken with other cultures at the outset. It takes a generation or two to work out the wrinkles.

I see this in process, every day. What I see in the way of encouragement in progress, you see as something to bitch about regarding my observation thereby.

What a surprise.




GaryWilcox -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 2:43:28 AM)

[sm=lame.gif]

It is weird that anyone read that Yahoo article and thought, "This is about border control!" It isn't. Not even in the slightest. It's about tensions between two countries, with both saying the other is harboring fugitives from justice-- and given that Pakistan is where the Obama administration found and dealt with Osama Bin Laden, it's a very old story we already know. They closed their borders with each other, for good reason: they ARE harboring fugitives from each other.

That you see an analogy for the U.S. refusing legal travel visas from the countries that do NOT have a history of creating terrorists, and accepting the travel visas of people coming from the places the 9/11 attackers come from, suggests that willful ignorance I've brought up elsewhere. You have access to all the information you need to know these facts, but choose instead to swallow anything that fits your worldview-- and then attempt to lamely re-contextualize this information with the sloppy hands of a seventh grader, to push your arrogant worldview on others. Shameless and lame.




heavyblinker -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 3:10:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GaryWilcox

[sm=lame.gif]

It is weird that anyone read that Yahoo article and thought, "This is about border control!" It isn't. Not even in the slightest. It's about tensions between two countries, with both saying the other is harboring fugitives from justice-- and given that Pakistan is where the Obama administration found and dealt with Osama Bin Laden, it's a very old story we already know. They closed their borders with each other, for good reason: they ARE harboring fugitives from each other.

That you see an analogy for the U.S. refusing legal travel visas from the countries that do NOT have a history of creating terrorists, and accepting the travel visas of people coming from the places the 9/11 attackers come from, suggests that willful ignorance I've brought up elsewhere. You have access to all the information you need to know these facts, but choose instead to swallow anything that fits your worldview-- and then attempt to lamely re-contextualize this information with the sloppy hands of a seventh grader, to push your arrogant worldview on others. Shameless and lame.


Nice try, but they won't understand.
If you get a response, this will become obvious.




BoscoX -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 7:14:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

I thought this is why Bush II started the whole thing by allowing the reduction of Iraq into a sectarian war and deliberately allowing al-Zarqawi to stay alive long enough to declare himself caliphate of ISIS.

The neocons wanted this and they got this...Muslim killing Muslim and anybody else that gets in the way. In that they are the same race...racism doesn't follow.


The usual leftist drooler stupidity

Muslims have been attacking Sikhs in Pakistan for 500 years because of George Bush




MrRodgers -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 7:25:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

I thought this is why Bush II started the whole thing by allowing the reduction of Iraq into a sectarian war and deliberately allowing al-Zarqawi to stay alive long enough to declare himself caliphate of ISIS.

The neocons wanted this and they got this...Muslim killing Muslim and anybody else that gets in the way. In that they are the same race...racism doesn't follow.


The usual leftist drooler stupidity

Muslims have been attacking Sikhs in Pakistan for 500 years because of George Bush

Sometimes you seem to deliberately get off track. From YOUR OP:

Pakistan is trying to stop Muslims from leaving a Muslim country and going to a Muslim country.

That's NOT racist and has nothing whatever to do with Sikhs or racism.

As I wrote, the neocons now have what they wanted all along.




BoscoX -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 7:28:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

I thought this is why Bush II started the whole thing by allowing the reduction of Iraq into a sectarian war and deliberately allowing al-Zarqawi to stay alive long enough to declare himself caliphate of ISIS.

The neocons wanted this and they got this...Muslim killing Muslim and anybody else that gets in the way. In that they are the same race...racism doesn't follow.


The usual leftist drooler stupidity

Muslims have been attacking Sikhs in Pakistan for 500 years because of George Bush

Sometimes you seem to deliberately get off track. From YOUR OP:

Pakistan is trying to stop Muslims from leaving a Muslim country and going to a Muslim country.

That's NOT racist and has nothing whatever to do with Sikhs or racism.

As I wrote, the neocons now have what they wanted all along.


I wasn't replying to my OP, idiot. I was replying to your tired, worn-out talking point. And if you had read the OP you would see that your Muslim friends slaughtered 100 Sikhs, that was a fundamental component to the article I posted








GaryWilcox -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 9:31:50 AM)

...which had nothing to do with banning Muslims as an effective means of border control, and just confirmed that there are terrorists working to destroy each other in rival nations.

If anything, this makes the case for asking Trump why he has banned the countries that have not produced terrorists and allowed the countries that have.




thompsonx -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 9:37:56 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


The only nation in the world that cannot protect it's borders without being racist is the US.


Which race would that be dumbass?




thompsonx -> RE: Is it "racist" for Pakistan to protect its border? (2/22/2017 9:39:35 AM)


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Pakistan is trying to stop Muslims from leaving a Muslim country and going to a Muslim country to do the things that Muslim immigrants do.

Put on your pussy hats and head over there on your unicorns, and lead them in a rousing chorus of Kumbaya, okay?


What race are the afghani dumbass?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.




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