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Lucylastic -> This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 7:14:26 AM)

There doesnt seem to be much good news lately, This is good news, but it comes on the heels of the horrible Jewish cemetery desecration in st louis.
I hope they catch the pigs who desecrated it. No matter their colour, or politics....
I hope only more good comes out of this...
Theres more at the link.
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Muslim-led fundraiser to repair Jewish cemetery after vandalism surpasses goal

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/320572-muslim-led-fundraiser-to-repair-vandalism-at-jewish-cemetery

A Muslim-led fundraiser to repair anti-Semitic vandalism at a Jewish cemetery in St. Louis blew past its initial fundraising goal on Tuesday.

The fundraiser, titled “Muslims Unite to Repair Jewish Cemetery,” had raised more than $40,000 from more than 1,400 donors as of around 10 p.m. on Tuesday night, pushing well past its $20,000 fundraising goal.

An update on the campaign’s website via Launch Good says the fundraising goal was reached in just three hours.

Vandals destroyed nearly 100 headstones at the Chesed Shel Emeth Society cemetery in St. Louis on Monday. The incident comes as a growing number of Jewish community centers across the country received a wave of bomb threats — 11 centers received threats on Monday alone, the JCC Association of North America reported.
The campaign was launched by Linda Sarsour and Tarek El-Messidi, according to the fundraising page.

"On the heels of bomb threats and hate crimes against dozens of Jewish community [centers] across the United States, a historical Jewish cemetery was vandalized this past weekend when over 100 headstones were damaged,” they wrote.

"Muslim Americans stand in solidarity with the Jewish-American community to condemn this horrific act of desecration against the Chesed Shel Emeth Cemetery. We also extend our deepest condolences to all those who have been affected and to the Jewish community at large.”

The fundraiser will continue, and any money raised beyond the goal for the St. Louis cemetery will be used to support other vandalized Jewish community centers across the country.

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Fundraiser is now at at the time of posting....$66,367
Oh this is the link to the original desecration story
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/320394-vandals-destroy-100-headstones-at-jewish-cemetery




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 7:22:50 AM)

Get back with us after Muslims burn all of their Qurans

quote:

Jews as Depicted in the Qur’an


I don’t usually link to archival material that is available online. If I did, I would do nothing else. However, I think in light of a recent column I wrote, this is an important piece to call your attention to again. In this piece I recounted a recent encounter with a couple who run a group that brings together Jewish and Muslim children; I asked in it what they might do if Qur’anic anti-Semitism began to reappear among the Muslim children, despite all the pretty little bridges of understanding they had labored to build. This article from IslamOnline shows you the depth of that Qur’anic anti-Semitism.

Dear Sheikh! As-Salam `Alaykum. What, according to the Qur’an, are the main characteristics and qualities of Jews?

Answer: […]

As regards the question you posed, the following is the fatwa issued by Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, in which he states the following:

“The Qur’an has specified a considerable deal of its verses to talking about Jews, their personal qualities and characteristics. The Qur’anic description of Jews is quite impartial; praising them in some occasions where they deserve praise and condemning them in other occasions where they practice blameworthy acts. Yet, the latter occasions outnumbered the former, due to their bad qualities and the heinous acts they used to commit.

The Qur’an praises them on the verse that reads: ” And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favored them above (all) peoples.” (Al-Jathiyah:16) i.e. the peoples of their time.

Among the bad qualities they were characterized with are the following:

1. They used to fabricate things and falsely ascribe them to Allah. Allah Almighty says: ” That is because they say: We have no duty to the Gentiles. They speak a lie concerning Allah knowingly.” (Al-`Imran:75) Also: “The Jews say: Allah’s hand is fettered. Their hands are fettered and they are accursed for saying so. Nay, but both His hands are spread out wide in bounty. He bestoweth as He will.” (Al-Ma`idah:64)

In another verse Almighty Allah says: “Verily Allah heard the saying of those who said, (when asked for contributions to the war): “Allah, forsooth, is poor, and we are rich! We shall record their saying with their slaying of the Prophets wrongfully and We shall say: Taste ye the punishment of burning!” (Al-`Imran:181)

2. They love to listen to lies. Concerning this Allah says: “and of the Jews: listeners for the sake of falsehood, listeners on behalf of other folk” (Al-Ma”idah: 41)

3. Disobeying Almighty Allah and never observing His commands. Allah says: “And because of their breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts.” (Al-Ma”idah: 13)

4. Disputing and quarreling. This is clear in the verse that reads: “Their Prophet said unto them: Lo! Allah hath raised up Saul to be a king for you. They said: How can he have kingdom over us when we are more deserving of the kingdom than he is, since he hath not been given wealth enough?” (Al-Baqarah: 247)

5. Hiding the truth and standing for misleading. This can be understood from the verse that reads: –¦distort the Scripture with their tongues, that ye may think that what they say is from the Scripture, when it is not from the Scripture.” (Al-`Imran: 78)

6. Staging rebellion against the Prophets and rejecting their guidance. This is clear in the verse: “And when ye said: O Moses! We will not believe in thee till we see Allah plainly.” (Al-Baqarah: 55)

7. Hypocrisy. In a verse, we read: “And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: We believe; but when they go apart to their devils they declare: Lo! we are with you; verily we did but mock.” (Al-Baqarah: 14) In another verse, we read: “Enjoin ye righteousness upon mankind while ye yourselves forget (to practice it)? And ye are readers of the Scripture! Have ye then no sense?” (Al-Baqarah: 44)

8. Giving preference to their own interests over the rulings of religion and the dictates of truth. Allah says: –¦when there cometh unto you a messenger (from Allah) with that which ye yourselves desire not, ye grow arrogant, and some ye disbelieve and some ye slay?” (Al-Baqarah: 87)

9. Wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them. This is clear in the verse that reads: “Many of the People of the Scripture long to make you disbelievers after your belief, through envy on their own account, after the truth hath become manifest unto them.” (Al-Baqarah: 109)

10. They feel pain to see others in happiness and are gleeful when others are afflicted with a calamity. This is clear in the verse that reads: “If a lucky chance befall you, it is evil unto them, and if disaster strike you they rejoice thereat.” (Al-`Imran:120)

11. They are known of their arrogance and haughtiness. They claimed to be the sons and of Allah and His beloved ones. Allah tells us about this in the verse that reads: “The Jews and Christians say: We are sons of Allah and His loved ones.” (Al-Ma”idah: 18)

12. Utilitarianism and opportunism are among their innate traits. This is clear in the verse that reads: “And of their taking usury when they were forbidden it, and of their devouring people’s wealth by false pretences.” (An-Nisa”: 161)

13. Their impoliteness and indecent way of speech is beyond description. Referring to this, the Qur’anic verse reads: “Some of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: “We hear and disobey; hear thou as one who heareth not” and “Listen to us!” distorting with their tongues and slandering religion. If they had said: “We hear and we obey; hear thou, and look at us” it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.” (An-Nisa”:46)

14. It is easy for them to slay people and kill innocents. Nothing in the world is dear to their hearts than shedding blood and murdering human beings. They never give up this trait even with the Messengers and the Prophets. Allah says: –¦and slew the prophets wrongfully.” (Al-Baqarah: 61)

15. They are merciless and heartless. In this meaning, the Qur’anic verse explains: “Then, even after that, your hearts were hardened and became as rocks, or worse than rocks, for hardness.” (Al-Baqarah: 74)

16. They never keep their promises or fulfill their words. Almighty Allah says: “Is it ever so that when ye make a covenant a party of you set it aside? The truth is, most of them believe not.” (Al-Baqarah: 100)

17. They rush hurriedly to sins and compete in transgression. Allah says: “They restrained not one another from the wickedness they did. Verily evil was that they used to do!” (Al-MA”idah:79)

18. Cowardice and their love for this worldly life are their undisputable traits. To this, the Qur’an refers when saying: “Ye are more awful as a fear in their bosoms than Allah. That is because they are a folk who understand not. They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified villages or from behind walls. Their adversity among themselves is very great. Ye think of them as a whole whereas their hearts are divers.” (Al-Hashr:13-14) Allah Almighty also says: “And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters.” (Al-Baqarah:96)

19. Miserliness runs deep in their hearts. Describing this, the Qur’an states: “Or have they even a share in the Sovereignty? Then in that case, they would not give mankind even the speck on a date stone.” (An-Nisa”:53)

20. Distorting Divine Revelation and Allah’s Sacred Books. Allah says in this regard: “Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands anthem say, “This is from Allah,” that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.” (Al-Baqara: 79)

After this clear explanation, we would like to note that these are but some of the most famous traits of the Jews as described in the Qur’an. They have revolted against the Divine ordinances, distorted what has been revealed to them and invented new teachings which, they claimed, were much more better than what has been recorded in the Torah. It was for these traits that they found no warm reception in all countries where they tried to reside. Rather, they would either be driven out or live in isolation. It was Almighty Allah who placed on them His Wrath and made them den of humiliation due to their transgression. Almighty Allah told us that He”d send to them people who”d pour on them rain of severe punishment that would last till the Day of Resurrection. All this gives us glad tidings of the coming victory of Muslims over them once Muslims stick to strong faith and belief in Allah and adopt the modern means of technology.”


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/07/jews-as-depicted-in-the-quran




Lucylastic -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:03:18 AM)

I didnt expect anything better..
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mnottertail -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:06:27 AM)

He is frantically and pathetically trying to derail from his NAMBLA associations.




heavyblinker -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:12:18 AM)

Resisting Trump is one thing, but resisting everything he represents is even better.
Good for them.




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:14:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt expect anything better..
[sm=baby_smiley39.gif]


It is convenient that as the nation is in the process of deciding whether or not to allow the Muslim hordes through the gate suddenly they love the Jews

After slaughtering them for 1400 years




mnottertail -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:15:22 AM)

That was catholics, you got that wrong, just like everything else.




GaryWilcox -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:47:52 AM)

I agree, Lucylastic, it's nice to see groups working to defend one another.

I'm done responding to the local troll, but if anyone out there can't see what's wrong with the JihadWatch article, you should try a little independent study. (or, tl;dr: it says 11 mean things and 10 nice or neutral thing about Jews.)

Reading these responses, I wonder if some of the alt-right conservatives here will ever accept that Muslims have done kindnesses to their community, ever, that benefited Christians, Jews, or anyone else.

It's almost as if their fear necessitates always believing the worst things about people.




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:53:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GaryWilcox

I agree, Lucylastic, it's nice to see groups working to defend one another.

I'm done responding to the local troll, but if anyone out there can't see what's wrong with the JihadWatch article, you should try a little independent study. (or, tl;dr: it says 11 mean things and 10 nice or neutral thing about Jews.)

Reading these responses, I wonder if some of the alt-right conservatives here will ever accept that Muslims have done kindnesses to their community, ever, that benefited Christians, Jews, or anyone else.

It's almost as if their fear necessitates always believing the worst things about people.


The Jihad watch article cites the Quran

Not that is is needed. Muslim hate for Jews is infamous, and the current continuing atrocities against Jews is well documented

It was likely Muslims who committed the crimes in the cemetery to begin with too




mnottertail -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 8:56:07 AM)

Your pedophile love is also now infamous.




GaryWilcox -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:15:35 AM)

You exhibit behavior very much like the Army surplus store owner character, played by Frederick Forrest, in the movie "Falling Down"...

First, the article is correct in naming 11 instances where Jews are spoken of intolerably. It leaves out ten instances that are favorable or at least respectful, because those facts do not fit the narrative of an article by an organization called 'JihadWatch'. It distorts 9 entries in an attempt to pile on.

Second, go read Matthew in the New Testament. Seriously. Just get a bible from a friend and open it to Matthew, and start reading.

Third, yes, conflicts between people who call themselves Jewish and Muslim have existed for a very long time, and what's more, they were the reason behind 9/11. This is truth. There is no need to deny it. Because the problem Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations have had with the U.S. for so long is that we fund Israel as they push the Palestinians out of existence. So they have switched their focus to cut the head off closer to the body-- trying to disrupt the flow of money to Israel. But, just so this is clear, terrorist organizations are not representative of an entire religion. (Unless you have a compulsion to judge a person you've never met and know nothing about by people that look or talk similarly to him.)

Fourth, if I ran a poll asking people who they thought was more likely to have committed the grave desecration, Muslims or Trump supporters, who do you honestly think would win?

We're not fooled by you.




Lucylastic -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:18:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: GaryWilcox

I agree, Lucylastic, it's nice to see groups working to defend one another.

I'm done responding to the local troll, but if anyone out there can't see what's wrong with the JihadWatch article, you should try a little independent study. (or, tl;dr: it says 11 mean things and 10 nice or neutral thing about Jews.)

Reading these responses, I wonder if some of the alt-right conservatives here will ever accept that Muslims have done kindnesses to their community, ever, that benefited Christians, Jews, or anyone else.

It's almost as if their fear necessitates always believing the worst things about people.


The Jihad watch article cites the Quran

Not that is is needed. Muslim hate for Jews is infamous, and the current continuing atrocities against Jews is well documented

It was likely Muslims who committed the crimes in the cemetery to begin with too

It could have been mooselambs or angry white men in pointy hats, thats why I said, who ever did it, is a pig...
in case you missed it...
It could even be that other terrorist "religion" black lives matter[8|]..you missed blaming them??? you are slipping... But "thugs" seem to have fallen out of hate recently amongst some of you (except for chicago)
its never a white man is it,
lol except when it is....

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html
Hunters shot near border blamed illegal immigrants. But they shot each other, cops say

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html#storylink=cpy

Hunting guides Walker Daugherty and Michael Bryant were leading a hunting party in southern Texas in early January, when they claimed immigrants illegally crossed the nearby Mexico border, converged on their camp in the middle of the night and tried to rob them.

Gunfire erupted. When the smoke cleared and the fight was over, Daugherty was bleeding from a shot to his abdomen. Another member of the party had been shot in the arm.

After being airlifted to the hospital, the men told authorities that immigrants who crossed the border from Mexico wanted to steal an RV some of the hunters were using. In statements made through friends and family, they went further, suggesting that the assailants wanted to kill everyone in the party, as the Albuquerque Journal reported.

A GoFundMe page set up by a family friend to cover Daugherty’s medical bills raised $26,300 from more than 200 donors.

The story was harrowing, to be sure, not to mention rife with political implications. The Texas Agriculture Commissioner even shared it on his Facebook page, saying it underscored the need for President Trump’s proposed border wall.

Daugherty and Bryant were indicted last week on one count each of using deadly conduct by discharging firearms in the direction of others, according to CBS 7. Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominguez told the station that an investigation had found Daugherty and the other injured hunter were struck by friendly fire. There was no sign, he said, that anyone else was involved.

It wasn’t clear whether Daugherty or Bryant had retained attorneys or entered pleas.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html#storylink=cpy




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:21:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GaryWilcox

You exhibit behavior very much like the Army surplus store owner character, played by Frederick Forrest, in the movie "Falling Down"...

First, the article is correct in naming 11 instances where Jews are spoken of intolerably. It leaves out ten instances that are favorable or at least respectful, because those facts do not fit the narrative of an article by an organization called 'JihadWatch'. It distorts 9 entries in an attempt to pile on.

Second, go read Matthew in the New Testament. Seriously. Just get a bible from a friend and open it to Matthew, and start reading.

Third, yes, conflicts between people who call themselves Jewish and Muslim have existed for a very long time, and what's more, they were the reason behind 9/11. This is truth. There is no need to deny it. Because the problem Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations have had with the U.S. for so long is that we fund Israel as they push the Palestinians out of existence. So they have switched their focus to cut the head off closer to the body-- trying to disrupt the flow of money to Israel. But, just so this is clear, terrorist organizations are not representative of an entire religion. (Unless you have a compulsion to judge a person you've never met and know nothing about by people that look or talk similarly to him.)

Fourth, if I ran a poll asking people who they thought was more likely to have committed the grave desecration, Muslims or Trump supporters, who do you honestly think would win?

We're not fooled by you.


Keep talking




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:23:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: GaryWilcox

I agree, Lucylastic, it's nice to see groups working to defend one another.

I'm done responding to the local troll, but if anyone out there can't see what's wrong with the JihadWatch article, you should try a little independent study. (or, tl;dr: it says 11 mean things and 10 nice or neutral thing about Jews.)

Reading these responses, I wonder if some of the alt-right conservatives here will ever accept that Muslims have done kindnesses to their community, ever, that benefited Christians, Jews, or anyone else.

It's almost as if their fear necessitates always believing the worst things about people.


The Jihad watch article cites the Quran

Not that is is needed. Muslim hate for Jews is infamous, and the current continuing atrocities against Jews is well documented

It was likely Muslims who committed the crimes in the cemetery to begin with too

It could have been mooselambs or angry white men in pointy hats, thats why I said, who ever did it, is a pig...
in case you missed it...
It could even be that other terrorist "religion" black lives matter[8|]..you missed blaming them??? you are slipping... But "thugs" seem to have fallen out of hate recently amongst some of you (except for chicago)
its never a white man is it,
lol except when it is....

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html
Hunters shot near border blamed illegal immigrants. But they shot each other, cops say

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html#storylink=cpy

Hunting guides Walker Daugherty and Michael Bryant were leading a hunting party in southern Texas in early January, when they claimed immigrants illegally crossed the nearby Mexico border, converged on their camp in the middle of the night and tried to rob them.

Gunfire erupted. When the smoke cleared and the fight was over, Daugherty was bleeding from a shot to his abdomen. Another member of the party had been shot in the arm.

After being airlifted to the hospital, the men told authorities that immigrants who crossed the border from Mexico wanted to steal an RV some of the hunters were using. In statements made through friends and family, they went further, suggesting that the assailants wanted to kill everyone in the party, as the Albuquerque Journal reported.

A GoFundMe page set up by a family friend to cover Daugherty’s medical bills raised $26,300 from more than 200 donors.

The story was harrowing, to be sure, not to mention rife with political implications. The Texas Agriculture Commissioner even shared it on his Facebook page, saying it underscored the need for President Trump’s proposed border wall.

Daugherty and Bryant were indicted last week on one count each of using deadly conduct by discharging firearms in the direction of others, according to CBS 7. Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominguez told the station that an investigation had found Daugherty and the other injured hunter were struck by friendly fire. There was no sign, he said, that anyone else was involved.

It wasn’t clear whether Daugherty or Bryant had retained attorneys or entered pleas.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html#storylink=cpy



Nothing like forcing an alt left radical into derailing her own thread after you hand her ass to her on a platter

I love the sight of alt left radical desperation in the morning [:)]




GaryWilcox -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:25:40 AM)

See, Trump can almost away with made up facts and conjecture, because people think he has the inside scoop and some knowledge.

When you do it, it's just hysterical.




BoscoX -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:36:07 AM)

Americans have been around only a little over 200 years. Muslims have been slaughtering everyone who isn't exactly like therm for 1400 years - even other Muslims

In the grand scheme of things, Muslims only began their slaughter very recently but looooong before George Bush ever arrived on the scene

Muslims have slaughtered between 250 million and 800 million people before America was even born - perhaps 80 million on the Indian subcontinent alone. And they slaughter people, including children, in deliberately terroristic ways. They have always used and still use horrific battle tactics against civilians because that's what the Quran demands of them. This is why they are 99% of the population where multiculturalism thrived prior to their cult and their mass murder

Yet all of their massive crimes against humanity, are our fault...

Alt left logic 101 at work




mnottertail -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:52:12 AM)

and christians more and longer than them.

You better go back to your peddling pedophilia jihad, you are an epic failure in all other endeavors you cockgargle.




GaryWilcox -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:53:47 AM)

Our fault? Who said that?

And there you go, 'MUSLIMS have slaughtered...' Let's talk about Alt-Right terrorists like Rudolph in 1996, Dear in Colorado Panned Parenthood in 2015, and Roof in the Charleston massacre. Let's just call them by their common association: Trumpettes.

I don't like our support of Israel, as Israel has not honored any of the treaties they signed with us since the 1970's, but hey-- our funding of their country doesn't mean terrorists have the right to murder us. Just pointing out the relationship, honestly, which you chose to construct yet another false narrative for.




Lucylastic -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 9:59:07 AM)

How can you claim I derailed it, when you derailed the thread in the 2nd post. Premature exasperation?
but thank you for playing
You cant discuss the actual topic...except to blame a minority...religious or colour or party.
So I backed that statement up...
and you ignored that as well
Its just like when you cannot defend trump(ever)...you just use fake, alt, etc whatever deflection you can think of.
you suck so bad its embarrassing





thompsonx -> RE: This is heartening in more ways than one... (2/22/2017 10:00:26 AM)


ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


[
Daugherty and Bryant were indicted last week on one count each of using deadly conduct by discharging firearms in the direction of others, according to CBS 7. Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominguez told the station that an investigation had found Daugherty and the other injured hunter were struck by friendly fire. There was no sign, he said, that anyone else was involved.

It wasn’t clear whether Daugherty or Bryant had retained attorneys or entered pleas.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article134002114.html#storylink=cpy

Let me guess how many lone star "longnecks" were found at the sceene of the "south texas masacre"




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