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Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 11:10:39 AM

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Why does the media despise the president...

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BRZEZINSKI: ‘OUR JOB’ IS TO CONTROL ‘EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE THINK’

https://news.grabien.com/story-brzezinski-our-job-control-exactly-what-people-think

Not the president, not anyone else. Theirs, and theirs alone

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 11:12:01 AM

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And your source for this is... the media.
Cute!

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 12:00:10 PM

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The media is a very broad category.

I see lots of those on the political right in the US saying they despise the supposedly left wing "establishment" media and then going straight ahead and trusting right wing shock jocks, Fox news and dodgy internet based trash news sites.

I get that many Americans do not like their media choices , but there's a difference between preferring one relatively reputable news outlet to another, and just saying you despise the whole lot. Then of course you can go around believing in any shit that rings your bell, just because it confirms your world view.

When you are despising the media because they don't present Trump in a positive light, you've got to ask yourself if it is the media or the man.

The press outside of the US are just not particularly obsessed with taking sides in the whole Trump-Clinton thing. They mainly just report the man and what he does. I've therefore watched large sections of the (admittedly deeply flawed) serious UK media, especially television and radio news, try to present the President in an balanced way. However, even when the material is presented flat with no explicit judgement, the guy comes across like a thug and a fantasist who believes that if he says something often enough it becomes true.

Is this the inherent left wing political bias of the UK press? No. They are mainly right wing and hate the "leftists" as much as Trump. But it's hard to present his yo-yoing foreign policy and the car crash of his management of his administration in a positive light.

The guy is not the first and best in history at everything he does. How could he be? And reporting what he does and says, flaws and all, is no crime except to those who want him exalted.

There is of course good and bad reporting on all sides of the political spectrum and believing what any of them say without a critical filter is dangerous. It is not however the fault of the media that even those with no axe to grind can't find a way to present him as some kind of messiah.

It's the man, what he says and what he does - not just the way the message is packaged by the media.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 12:34:50 PM

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Why does the media despise the president...

Perhaps because he is despicable.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 12:46:10 PM

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Why does the media despise the president...

Perhaps because he is despicable.

Re-quoted for my feelings on the matter....
Exactly

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 12:46:19 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 12:53:20 PM

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Why does the media despise the president...

Perhaps because he is despicable.

Re-quoted for my feelings on the matter....
Exactly

How about pissdickable????has a nice lilt to it dontcha think?

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 1:04:08 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

I'd add that Newt Gingrich ushered in the no compromise principle, and from that moment on, governance began a steady downhill fall, from which there will be no recovery until representatives decide they need to connect and hash out differences for the good of the country and the will of their constituents.

Clearly, not gonna happen anytime soon. Instead, the political divide switched to which group should control the oligarchy.

Which set the scene for our current kleptocracy. Not to mention idiocy.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 1:56:35 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

When CNN agreed to basically serve as the propaganda source for Iraq during desert shield they broke the bond of civility. Then when Dan Rather did a hit piece on Bush two based on information even he admitted was falsified all bets were off.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:04:34 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

When CNN agreed to basically serve as the propaganda source for Iraq during desert shield they broke the bond of civility. Then when Dan Rather did a hit piece on Bush two based on information even he admitted was falsified all bets were off.

Bullshit welfare patient, you are felchgobbling lies again. Lets see the non-existant link to the falsified information that he admitted.

Thats kiss your sister stuff there, welfare patient.

And you are the boy what does it.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:06:16 PM

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The fake polls... CNN giving Hillary debate questions... Moderators ganging up with Dem candidates against Republicans

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:09:15 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

More recently the media twisted the coverage on OJ (regardless of your feeling on his guilt) by Newsweek, their warped coverage of the Martin case (much of which the prosecution refuted) and the current claim that Trump claimed a terror attack in Sweden when he said no such thing. Their compliance with covering up the rampant corruption under Johnson. and the list goes on. Blatant bias on the left was common before anyone heard of Atwater. I doubt that you remember when in the 70's someone called Nixon a conservative it was treated as an accusation. The headline reading Nixon accused of being conservative.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:14:33 PM

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and the current claim that Trump claimed a terror attack in Sweden when he said no such thing.

More welfare patient felchgobbling, you are kissing your sister here again. Where is the claims in the media about trump claimed a terror attack in sweden?

You are gonna get caught cheating on your sister with your mother again.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:45:52 PM

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The fake polls... CNN giving Hillary debate questions... Moderators ganging up with Dem candidates against Republicans

The moderator in 12 backing up an Obama lie, and later admitting she was "mistaken".
NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN have all been in the pocket of the Dems for decades, they just don't like it when it comes back on them. Anyone remember how Bush for saying the economy had turned arund in the fall of 91 and then the same people (the day after the election) started running storied about how strong th economy had been growing for the last year.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:47:42 PM

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Nutsucker slobberblogs have not been so fortunate, they have all been debunked as the felch was spewing from their factless holes.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:48:24 PM

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Because the right started pulling away from honesty when it began to make the Lee Atwater playbook their everyday playbook, and began to see their special privileges being removed as the equity bar began to rise in America. It took conservatives out of a period where they felt empowered and strong in their conservatism (Reagan) and forced them to either side with liars (read my lips: no new taxes) or be critical of their own party, and by association, themselves.

They chose a third option: use Atwater tactics to live in a constant bubble of smug disapproval with the left, which is how the Limbaughs of this world rose to power.

EDIT: And in that post-Bush1 period, the Lewinsky scandal happened, which gave the conservatives something to really focus on that was legitimate and an indication of the kind of moral corruption Bill Clinton represented. Ever since then, it's been a pep rally of us vs. them. The nation is split because one half doesn't want to budge on their privileges.

Before that us VS them was only by the left so you guys didn't have a problem with it.
Since you areed with it you didn't even see it.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 2:59:26 PM

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There was nothing to see, nutsuckers have been factless felchgobblers since the inception of their circlefelch.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 3:11:01 PM

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Blatant bias on the left was common before anyone heard of Atwater. I doubt that you remember when in the 70's someone called Nixon a conservative it was treated as an accusation. The headline reading Nixon accused of being conservative.

No, what you're calling 'blatant bias on the left' was actually impartiality and an emphasis on the truth. That used to be the the standard of journalism. Television and the national news was more liberal, because it was less restricted by local markets and their influence on editors/producers. Most newspapers were very conservative, at least editorially until the late seventies, post-Watergate, but a great number still have a very conservative focus.

Your Nixon story is... an entertaining reframing of events from a man who bugged the opposition's election headquarters... but conservative was never a dirty word-- and it still isn't. I don't blame all conservatives for Trump. I blame the folks who support Trump, for Trump.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 3:20:43 PM

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Kinkroids, there is going to be bias, forget it and...get over it.

It has been said and in such a way as to have me research it and for a long time now has me believing it for the most part...most of the media are dems, most of the print and electronic media are dems and most of the bureaucrats are dems, even most of academia...are dems. So the fuck what ?? How did all of those people get that way ? Were they born fucking dems ? No !!

The dem policies and what they actually did...won them over. One has no choice but to believe that is the truth. Now the media people watch and listen too, are the media that simply reinforces one's own partisan prejudices, all sides are fucking intellectually lazy.

If there is a reason to despise and distrust the media, it is because it is all now merely a for-profit endeavor. There will never be a Woodward and Bernstein ever again to actually pursue a case that brings down one of history's most wretched administrations. The stations go for the demographics...not real news except local shit.

I was never a dem because they need to pass a law or create a new bureaucracy to ameliorate far too many perceived problems in society.

I am conservative but a 'way back' 'old school' conservatism and am convinced since Reagan, todays' right has left the reservation and so we have angst and division now but we've shown that's the only way to office. Nobody wins on the real merits anymore, whoever wins, wins by appealing in any way they can to the largest faction. That's how the Karl Roves and Lee Atwaters of the world successfully got a faction large enough to include through partisan divisiveness...to win elections.

So now we have two main competing factions in media, so it becomes easy to hate and despise the media that simply doesn't reinforce...your partisan prejudices. I know people that watch CNN, or Fox...ALL DAY LONG, leaving me to think, these people now do live truly sheltered political lives. I don't watch TV at all much anymore, I just laugh every morning at callers into C-Span.

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RE: Why Do People Despise And Distrust The Media? - 2/22/2017 6:25:57 PM

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When CNN agreed to basically serve as the propaganda source for Iraq during desert shield they broke the bond of civility.

When you talk out of your ass only shit comes out.

Then when Dan Rather did a hit piece on Bush two based on information even he admitted was falsified all bets were off.

You have been caught in this lie before. Is it because you are too phoquing stupid to walk and chew gum or are you just a pathalogical liar like sanity?

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