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US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 2:05:07 PM   
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US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban
Published February 21, 2017 Associated Press


ANNAPOLIS, Md. – Maryland's ban on 45 kinds of assault weapons and its 10-round limit on gun magazines were upheld Tuesday by a federal appeals court in a decision that met with a strongly worded dissent.
In a 10-4 ruling, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., said the guns banned under Maryland's law aren't protected by the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage.

Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who led the push for the law in 2013 as a state senator, said it's "unthinkable that these weapons of war, weapons that caused the carnage in Newtown and in other communities across the country, would be protected by the Second Amendment."
"It's a very strong opinion, and it has national significance, both because it's en-banc and for the strength of its decision," Frosh said, noting that all of the court's judges participated.

Judge William Traxler issued a dissent. By concluding the Second Amendment doesn't even apply, Traxler wrote, the majority "has gone to greater lengths than any other court to eviscerate the constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms." He also wrote that the court did not apply a strict enough review on the constitutionality of the law.

"For a law-abiding citizen who, for whatever reason, chooses to protect his home with a semi-automatic rifle instead of a semi-automatic handgun, Maryland's law clearly imposes a significant burden on the exercise of the right to arm oneself at home, and it should at least be subject to strict scrutiny review before it is allowed to stand," Traxler wrote.

National Rifle Association spokeswoman Jennifer Baker said, "It is absurd to hold that the most popular rifle in America is not a protected `arm' under the Second Amendment." She added that the majority opinion "clearly ignores the Supreme Court's guidance from District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects arms that are `in common use at the time for lawful purposes like self-defense."'

The NRA estimates there are 5 million to 10 million AR-15s -- one of the weapons banned under Maryland's law -- in circulation in the United States for lawful purposes. Asked about an appeal, Baker said the NRA is exploring all options.
But Elizabeth Banach, executive director of Marylanders to Prevent Gun Violence, said the decision is "overwhelming proof that reasonable measures to prevent gun violence are constitutional."

"Maryland's law needs to become a national model of evidence-based policies that will reduce gun violence," Banach wrote in a statement.
U.S. District Judge Catherine Blake upheld the ban in 2015, but a divided three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last year that she didn't apply the proper legal standard. The panel sent the case back to Blake and ordered her to apply "strict scrutiny," a more rigorous test of a law's constitutionality. The state appealed to the full appeals court.

Maryland passed the sweeping gun-control measure after the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre that killed 20 children and six educators in Connecticut. King mentioned the massacre at the start of the ruling.
"Both before and after Newtown, similar military-style rifles and detachable magazines have been used to perpetrate mass shootings in places whose names have become synonymous with the slaughters that occurred there," King wrote. He listed the 2012 shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado; the December 2015 shootings in San Bernardino, California; and the shootings last year at an Orlando, Florida, nightclub, where 49 people were killed and 53 injured.
King also noted that enacting the law is "precisely the type of judgment that legislatures are allowed to make without second-guessing by a court."
"Simply put, the State has shown all that is required: a reasonable, if not perfect, fit between the (Firearms Safety Act) and Maryland's interest in protecting public safety," King wrote.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/21/us-appeals-court-upholds-maryland-assault-weapons-ban.html

Im guessing this is going to much higher courts, When is Gorsuch being sworn in????

I dont see this going far....


oh and a link to the PDF of the decision
http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Published/141945A.P.pdf

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 2:11:25 PM   
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Appeals courts can be made up of alt left extremists, but their rulings mean very little. The SC is for all the marbles, and Trump;s got this.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 2:26:23 PM   
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Yeah, I remember him on his charm tour with scotus. LOLOLOLOL.

Better go back to pimping pedophiles maryann.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 2:47:41 PM   
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Well you just never know when you might need to 'assault' something...or somebody.

Sure enough, we get home protection bullshit again, like I need let alone going to have, my AR-15 locked and loaded right by my side to protect my home.

The NRA as usual as having been very successful in keeping such guns 'very popular' uses the reasoning that because these guns are 'very popular' they deserve 2nd amend. protection.

Why not a fully auto 50 cal. already primed and ready right above my doorways ? I mean if I need any guns, at the ready, to really protect my home, why stop at a measly semi-auto AR-15 and one I'd have to go get from its in-home, safe haven (kids) in the hopes of making it in time ?

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 2:59:08 PM   
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quote:

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Well you just never know when you might need to 'assault' something...or somebody.

Sure enough, we get home protection bullshit again, like I need let alone going to have, my AR-15 locked and loaded right by my side to protect my home.

The NRA as usual as having been very successful in keeping such guns 'very popular' uses the reasoning that because these guns are 'very popular' they deserve 2nd amend. protection.

Why not a fully auto 50 cal. already primed and ready right above my doorways ? I mean if I need any guns, at the ready, to really protect my home, why stop at a measly semi-auto AR-15 and one I'd have to go get from its in-home, safe haven (kids) in the hopes of making it in time ?

The ma deuce weighs something like 80lbs the ammunition is very expensive, and it isn't practical for anything requiring mobility. The Constitution protected the right to bear arms , not the right to bear those arms approved by Mr Rogers.
The AR-15, though I don't care for them, has the advantages of relatively inexpensive ammo, easy handling, and does not have a great deal of penetration.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 3:44:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well you just never know when you might need to 'assault' something...or somebody.

Sure enough, we get home protection bullshit again, like I need let alone going to have, my AR-15 locked and loaded right by my side to protect my home.

The NRA as usual as having been very successful in keeping such guns 'very popular' uses the reasoning that because these guns are 'very popular' they deserve 2nd amend. protection.

Why not a fully auto 50 cal. already primed and ready right above my doorways ? I mean if I need any guns, at the ready, to really protect my home, why stop at a measly semi-auto AR-15 and one I'd have to go get from its in-home, safe haven (kids) in the hopes of making it in time ?

They didn't ban assault weapons, they banned guns that look like assault weapons.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 7:10:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well you just never know when you might need to 'assault' something...or somebody.

Sure enough, we get home protection bullshit again, like I need let alone going to have, my AR-15 locked and loaded right by my side to protect my home.

The NRA as usual as having been very successful in keeping such guns 'very popular' uses the reasoning that because these guns are 'very popular' they deserve 2nd amend. protection.

Why not a fully auto 50 cal. already primed and ready right above my doorways ? I mean if I need any guns, at the ready, to really protect my home, why stop at a measly semi-auto AR-15 and one I'd have to go get from its in-home, safe haven (kids) in the hopes of making it in time ?

They didn't ban assault weapons, they banned guns that look like assault weapons.



When libtards try to argue for gun control they don't know what they're talking about and/or come up with absurd exaggerations. That stupid thing he made up about the NRA popularizing AR-15's for example, is so far out there it doesn't even exist in this galaxy. Though in part because of him, like minded people, libtards in congress and the media, people buy them up if they think they won't be available in the future.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 7:40:01 PM   
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The ma deuce weighs something like 80lbs the ammunition is very expensive, and it isn't practical for anything requiring mobility.

What would an air farce pogue like you know about a duce?
Can you field strip one?
Can you set the head space and timing on one?
Have you a clue what head space or timing is?
And no dumbass it does not weigh 80lbs it weighs over 125 lbs.
Jersus you are phoquing stupid.




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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 7:46:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well you just never know when you might need to 'assault' something...or somebody.

Sure enough, we get home protection bullshit again, like I need let alone going to have, my AR-15 locked and loaded right by my side to protect my home.

The NRA as usual as having been very successful in keeping such guns 'very popular' uses the reasoning that because these guns are 'very popular' they deserve 2nd amend. protection.

Why not a fully auto 50 cal. already primed and ready right above my doorways ? I mean if I need any guns, at the ready, to really protect my home, why stop at a measly semi-auto AR-15 and one I'd have to go get from its in-home, safe haven (kids) in the hopes of making it in time ?

They didn't ban assault weapons, they banned guns that look like assault weapons.



When libtards try to argue for gun control they don't know what they're talking about and/or come up with absurd exaggerations. That stupid thing he made up about the NRA popularizing AR-15's for example, is so far out there it doesn't even exist in this galaxy. Though in part because of him, like minded people, libtards in congress and the media, people buy them up if they think they won't be available in the future.

I fired a M-16 in basic training and it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I would rather fire 1 12 ga than 20 .223. Movies popularize lots of shots and wicked looking guns, the AR fills the bill.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 7:50:51 PM   
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I fired a M-16 in basic training and it left a bad taste in my mouth.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 8:15:39 PM   
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It probably will not stand a SCOTUS review, too many precedents.

The smaller magazines will probably make it through, but as far as the weapon ban, all they would have to do is sell weapons that fall under the California guidelines and that is the end of it.

Examples of California legal guns

Personally, I would take any 1 of my three M1A's over an AR style rifle any day. Granted they are heavier, but the .308 ammo is more to my liking.

Then again, Maryland may change its collective mind, considering how many ethnic groups, religions, nationalities that Donald Trump seems hell bent on pissing off, even the most anti gun liberal may decide a home arsenal is not such a bad idea.

Think about it, all those ISIS members that waded across the Rio Grande in Texas, sneaked in across the border into Arizona, New Mexico and California, when those cells go active the country be fucked.

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RE: US appeals court upholds Maryland assault weapons ban - 2/22/2017 8:46:06 PM   
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It probably will not stand a SCOTUS review, too many precedents.

The smaller magazines will probably make it through, but as far as the weapon ban, all they would have to do is sell weapons that fall under the California guidelines and that is the end of it.

Examples of California legal guns

Personally, I would take any 1 of my three M1A's over an AR style rifle any day. Granted they are heavier, but the .308 ammo is more to my liking.

Then again, Maryland may change its collective mind, considering how many ethnic groups, religions, nationalities that Donald Trump seems hell bent on pissing off, even the most anti gun liberal may decide a home arsenal is not such a bad idea.

Think about it, all those ISIS members that waded across the Rio Grande in Texas, sneaked in across the border into Arizona, New Mexico and California, when those cells go active the country be fucked.

I agree with your choice of weapons but I still prefer a shotgun. I think the AR should still be legal because 120 lb person will have trouble with my riot gun or your M1A.

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