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Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 5:41:36 PM   
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Canada’s top Imam explains Quranic verse on wife beating
Posted by: Jonathan D. Halevi December 15, 2016

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Dr. Iqbal Al-Nadvi (Mohammad Iqbal Masood Al-Nadvi) is the Muslim Chaplain of the Canadian army, the Chairperson of Canadian Council of Imams (Canada’s top imam) and the Amir (President) of Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Canada, a nation-wide Islamic organization that is striving “to build an Exemplary Canadian Muslim Community” by “total submission to Him [Allah] and through the propagation of true and universal message of Islam.”
His previous positions include the following: Director of Al-Falah Islamic School in Oakville, Ontario from 2004 to 2011, Imam of Muslim Association of Calgary Islamic Center from 1998-2004 and as a member of the University of Calgary chaplaincy team.
On February 16, 2015, Iqbal Nadvi delivered a speech on “Family: The Building Blocks of Society” and “Family Life in Islam.” Among other things, Nadvi explained the Quranic verse dealing with wife beating. Verse 34 of Surah (chapter) Al-Nisa’ in the Quran reads:
“Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance. [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them [lightly]. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.”
Nadvi said that the Quran allows the husband to beat his wife under certain conditions, but because relationship between husband and wife is “sacred” in Islam, it has to be carried out as part of the attempts to resolve conflicts and must stay behind closed doors. Only if it fails to fix the marital relationship, the couple can resort to mediation and later to divorce. The following is an excerpt from Nadvi’s speech (19:24-22:10):
“In Islam as [inaudible] Qadar says many rulings (احكام) of the Islamic Law (الشريعة) in Islam, in Quran, [are] given just in concept, in brief, rights? But the family issue is covered by Quran in a very detailed way. Not only what we should do, but even what you do if face some problems. How [do] you solve it.
“So in that sense for example we see that the protection of family is covered by Islam in three layers,right?
“The first layer is – solve the problem mutually between husband and wife, right? In many times it happens that in these days and Glory be to Allah, meaning (يعني) when we are attacked, right? and Islam is criticized that Islam promotes suppose wife beating, right? and so many things.
“So many people when they translate the word fa-idribuhunna (فاضربوهن) they translate, change the meaning of it. [inaudible]
“Me, of example, I want to say one thing. First thing is that the is the ruling (حكم) of the Quran. It is existing. I can not change it. But I need to know from the messenger of Allah (رسول الله) peace and blessing be upon him (صلى الله عليه وسلم) what it means? How [do] we implement it? Do we have an example from messenger of Allah (رسول الله) peace and blessing be upon him (صلى الله عليه وسلم) that he ever used this order? Right?
“So it means what? It means only that Islam is saying that the husband and wife issue and relation is so sacred, is so important, it must not be exposed to others. It supposes to be solved among each other. It is the first layer.
“And this is the point where for example Quran says if you are taking the issue, and Hadith says, if you are doing this thing, you can beat or can leave [avoid sleeping with the wife]. But why? Just keep the issue among each other.
“But the second layer is what? If it is not working make mediation, right? What? Bring one
person from husband, one person from wife and they will do what? And Quran says what? إن يريدا إصلاحا يوفق الله بينهما If they are trying to make reconciliation (صلح) Allah will enble them to do this thing, right?
“After that when the issue is not working then it will go to legal system, or it will go to court, it will go to other way. So what happen? In our situation most of the time we used last step first time, right?”
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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 7:10:58 PM   
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Every time I listen to Imans try to justify why Islam promotes violence towards wives.

I just feel sick!

And wonder why the fucking liberals and Lefties are supporting and defending this religion and their 1.6billion followers who support this atrocity!

To me, if one follows a religion that wants you to beat your wife. He or she support Wife beating. Period!

Even if they don't practice wife beating. But they continue to perpetuate the lie that Islam is peaceful.

There is nothing peaceful about teaching people to beat their wives.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 7:43:41 PM   
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Yes they basically are promoting domestic abuse to resove marital problems. I think that the pussy hat heads should have to read that out loud into a microphone at their next march. Maybe Madonna could do it.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 7:49:45 PM   
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Yes they basically are promoting domestic abuse to resove marital problems. I think that the pussy hat heads should have to read that out loud into a microphone at their next march. Maybe Madonna could do it.


The pussy hats were organized by a sharia Law advocate, a wife beating enthusiast



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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 9:20:52 PM   
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Well, to be honest, i think most of those pussy hat women need a good beating.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/24/2017 10:41:48 PM   
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I thought Your Daddy who just got elected was supposed to solve all the problems in the world.

Our last president was vilified because he didn't solve every problem in the world.

Let's give this new guy a few months or so, and I'm sure Your Daddy will solve every problem in the world.

As soon as Putin gets done rag-dolling him. We'll just have to wait that one out, there.


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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 1:35:38 AM   
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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 1:54:21 AM   
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Lol
Doesn't make a difference.
Wrong spelling doesn't make Islam less guilty about promoting violence against female spouses.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 2:17:20 AM   
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Yes, but you got something wrong, Greta ... which proves that all Singaporeans get things wrong all of the time.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 2:59:10 AM   
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Typos happens ALL the time these days, especially with auto spell check changing your words.
The most important thing is, people still understand the meaning.

Spelling a word wrong, is not the equivalent crime of non consensual beating a wife as a punishment.

So if you are trying to down play how disgusting wife beaters are!

By distracting from the issue.

You are doing alot of muslim women being beaten to mash injustice.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:09:01 AM   
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I take your point, but it *is* important that Singaporeans try not to get things wrong, though, Greta. If they get things wrong with slip-ups like this, they probably get major things wrong, too. I think all Singaporeans should be prevented from entering the USA until this getting-things-wrong problem is sorted out.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:14:02 AM   
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I don't care if I get banned from the US.

I never wanted to be there or live there.

Are you kidding? Compared to the USA. Singapore is Paradise and I am happy here.

I can never see myself happy living in the US.

On top of that, I hate seasons. I love my 24/7 hot weather.




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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:22:39 AM   
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Yes, I'm kidding. I'm in a good mood. You should note the date. I don't *really* feel all Singaporeans should be barred from entering the USA because one of you got something wrong.



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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:25:31 AM   
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What's the occasion?

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:31:05 AM   
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quote:

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I thought Your Daddy who just got elected was supposed to solve all the problems in the world.

Our last president was vilified because he didn't solve every problem in the world.

Let's give this new guy a few months or so, and I'm sure Your Daddy will solve every problem in the world.

As soon as Putin gets done rag-dolling him. We'll just have to wait that one out, there.




Daddy? What are you 12?

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:33:47 AM   
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What's the occasion?


Nothing much. Just a particularly good cup of tea.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 3:46:36 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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What's the occasion?


Nothing much. Just a particularly good cup of tea.


Earl grey?

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 5:26:33 AM   
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Shropshire Lad tea, I warrant.

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 8:15:46 AM   
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"Inman"? Vs. the ones on the outs?

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RE: Canada's top Inman explains wife beating - 2/25/2017 8:34:11 AM   
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Iman: David Bowie's widow
Imam: Leader in Islamic community.

excellent:)

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