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ORIGINAL: Edwird

If I may present such an imposition . . .

The thing to do about it is to concern yourself with your own outside-of-economic self interest first.

You're likely make better decisions about other things if you've made better decisions about your own body in the first place, starting with diet intake.

Start with one to one and a half serving of fruit before anything else (pear, apple, peach, mango, grapes, blueberries, 20 others). After that a small-medium bowl of high quality white rice such as Thai Jasmine or Indian Basmati rice with a banana. You will make it to lunch on that, I guarantee. And you will have your 'morning business' done with earlier (after a week of this and the following) and be more clear-headed along the way.

Keep in mind that of the four great apes (Bonobo, Chimpanzee, Orangutan, Gorilla) the chimps are the only ones who even hunt prey at all, and that only occasionally. The largest and strongest of them, Gorillas sit there and eat leaves and herbs all day.

So then for lunch a mongo (i.e. large) salad of spinach and kale and the darkest red lettuce you can find, and herbs as alternated with basil or mint or other, with the usual suspects of a bit of tomato and cuke and green or red pepper, etc. If going 'full Gorilla,' make it more about the darkest green leaves, especially if your local market has dandelion leaves to throw into it. If salad dressing is a must, then good organic or unfiltered olive oil (the latter not being easy to find) shaken with unfiltered raw cider vinegar or balsamic vinegar is all you need.

Soak together sunflower seeds and a bit less than same amount of pumpkin seeds for 12-20 hours, drain, rinse, put by a northern-facing open window, drain once or twice a day. After two days, sprinkle on everything mentioned above.

Use garlic and onion a lot, the blood cleansers, both cooked an raw.

Buy a bottle of flax seed oil and a bottle of Bragg Liquid Aminos and spritz them or pour them on the beans and lentils and brown rice, the latter of which you should be having at least three times a week. Flax seed oil is a dispersant of build-up of all the bad fats and 'bad' cholesterol and and who knows whatever stupid things we've done to ourselves and our arteries. Fresh coconut and organic coconut oil contain the best saturated fat in the world, sorry to make the ladies scream there. It's the way of the world, the way of nature; If you want to eliminate the bad fat, the only way to do it is by replacing it with the good fat. Oils read on the labels of processes food are the oils to avoid. Processed food is to avoid.

Avocado and coconut and flax seed and olive oil are your friends, here. As some might have noticed, the body does not always let go of fat too readily, so it's down to personal choice as to the quality of that fat and its affect on the cardiovascular system. Avocado, coconut, flax seed, olive oil, . . . your friends. Soak chia seeds and flax seeds together; in only 5 minutes put 1-2 tablespoons of them into the blender with the fruit or veggie smoothie; there you go, omega-3 fatty acids your cardio loves all day.

In any case, the darkest greens (collards are pretty good too) have the best complementary combination of iron and calcium and magnesium and vitamin C, and lentils have more iron than anything.

After all that you could eat whatever you wanted at dinner and still be ten times better off. But if you've stuck to the earlier for at least three months, you'd find yourself not even wanting as much of the other stuff anyway.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
I don't know more than maybe a dozen vegetarians, and they all have ... (editing out freedomdwarf's obsession, here) ... and they all have to suppliment their diet with additives because they cannot get all the necessary vitamins, minerals and essential stuff from fruit and veg alone.
And don't say they do because there are some essential enzymes and stuff that is only found in red meat and cannot be artificially manufactured.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I am not sure wifey5 - I think so...do you know of them from yonder eastern lands?

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1219633/potato-scones

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
Our bodies are just not evolved to eat the crap many of us eat, and certainly not the amount of animal products. As pointed out, Chimps are the only of our evolutionary cousins who delve into that much at all, and that only on an occasional basis. Bears are nature's 'eating machines,' and even including the salmon gorging when they swim up river, their diet is 18-19% meat/fish. They eat grass half the day, they eat nuts and berries, probably a hundred other items of fruits/vegetables/roots etc. Humans are not bears. We are more than 100 times closer to any of the apes (not monkeys) than to any of the other omnivores.

Fine, we generally eat more meat than Chimps, we can handle that maybe, but way too many eat proportionately more than even bears do, and the fact we don't have the claws and teeth they do leads me to think we are getting out of bounds just a bit.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
There's some info for you.
Now you go do your own homework.
And incidentally, my wife was a strict vegetarian (bordering vegan) for 15 years; now she isn't and hasn't felt as good as she does now she's given it up.

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"I hope you’re paying attention, vegetarians, because red meat is the ONLY dietary source of heart-critical CoQ10."

There's some disinfo for you.