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tamaka -> Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 11:38:22 AM)

College professors here et al... feel free to reframe the question.


Are Americans traumatized? Explain.



Psychological trauma is a type of damage to the mind that occurs as a result of a severely distressing event. Trauma is often the result of an overwhelming amount of stress that exceeds one's ability to cope, or integrate the emotions involved with that experience.[1] A traumatic event involves one's experience, or repeating events of being overwhelmed that can be precipitated in weeks, years, or even decades as the person struggles to cope with the immediate circumstances, eventually leading to serious, long-term negative consequences.

However, trauma differs between individuals, according to their subjective experiences. People will react to similar events differently. In other words, not all people who experience a potentially traumatic event will actually become psychologically traumatized.[2] This discrepancy in risk rate can be attributed to protective factors some individuals may have that enable them to cope with trauma. Some examples are mild exposure to stress early in life,[3] resilience characteristics, and active seeking of help.[4]



BoscoX -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 12:14:31 PM)

Alt left radicals are.

The rest, not so much.



mnottertail -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:05:49 PM)

The nutsuckers are traumatized choking on their own felch, shitting their pants, imploding, and hating everyone except commies and pedophiles. Just ask old felchgobbler gobbles there.



tamaka -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:07:01 PM)

I'm really serious. I think 9/11 traumatized us. People who lost their job during the recession and still struggling to recover. For those of us born who are more in to our 'middle age'... the changes we've experienced in the world pre-computer to computer age has completely changed the reality we live in. Then the struggle to step outside the 'nuclear family'. Our paradigm has shifted several times dramatucally. And then add onto that dealing with the 'normal tramaus' on top of it such as illnessee and deaths of loved ones, etc.

I wonder how many people are traumatized and how it is effecting us on the whole. Is it causing all these very negative vibes we're throwing around and at each other constantly?



heavyblinker -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:18:42 PM)

I don't think it was one single factor... more like society is progressing too quickly and people can't catch up.



WhoreMods -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:24:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

I'm really serious. I think 9/11 traumatized us. People who lost their job during the recession and still struggling to recover. For those of us born who are more in to our 'middle age'... the changes we've experienced in the world pre-computer to computer age has completely changed the reality we live in. Then the struggle to step outside the 'nuclear family'. Our paradigm has shifted several times dramatucally. And then add onto that dealing with the 'normal tramaus' on top of it such as illnessee and deaths of loved ones, etc.

I wonder how many people are traumatized and how it is effecting us on the whole. Is it causing all these very negative vibes we're throwing around and at each other constantly?

Or you could just be a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of the human race.
That "American exceptionalism" thing at work, I suppose: you're exceptionally thin skinned and exceptionally poor at dealing with petty irritations.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:41:01 PM)

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Kirata -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 1:56:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Or you could just be a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of the human race.

That seems to cut both ways.

K.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:02:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Or you could just be a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of the human race.

That seems to cut both ways.

K.



Not in my experience, K.



dcnovice -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:04:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Or you could just be a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of the human race.

That seems to cut both ways.

K.



Not in my experience, K.

Hmm. What do you make of the Brexit vote?



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:15:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice
Hmm. What do you make of the Brexit vote?

I voted for it [:)]
Best thing we've done for 2 decades.

In the beginning, the 'common market' worked.
But since the introduction of the Euro and the EU's push towards a unified state, it hasn't.
Sooo much food wasted because it isn't the right shape/size/colour that we aren't allowed to sell it any more.
Artificially high prices because they pay for millions of tons of crops to be plowed into the ground.
They allow other countries to rape our fishing waters to the point our fishing industry collapses.
Add all the crazy laws they've introduced......

Yes, they've done some good things.
Basically, they've overstepped their authority and we've had enough.



bounty44 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:31:36 PM)

interesting that you would think "9/11" tamaka. my first thought upon seeing the thread, having the comrades in mind, was trump winning the presidency.



dcnovice -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:31:53 PM)

Sounds a little like "a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of [Europe]." [;)]



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:40:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Sounds a little like "a bunch of oversensitive whiners who can't cope with living in the same world as the rest of [Europe]." [;)]

Really??
So you think that being dick-tated to by a foreign power is Ok?
Being told you can't deport a terrorist becuse he has a 'human right' to live here??

On the whole, I found Americans to be far thin-skinned than anyone this side of the pond.



dcnovice -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 2:45:25 PM)

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my first thought upon seeing the thread, having the comrades in mind, was trump winning the presidency.

That doesn't surprise me.



cloudboy -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 6:03:24 PM)


I can say its more stressful now being an immigration lawyer.



Davefromnaas -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 6:21:01 PM)

Heard it's more stressful than being in a tank of sharks when your on your period.



sloguy02246 -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 10:50:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

interesting that you would think "9/11" tamaka. my first thought upon seeing the thread, having the comrades in mind, was trump winning the presidency.


To me, there is a distinct difference between the two events:

9/11 resulted in the population drawing closer together as a nation.
Trump's election took an already divided nation and widened the divisions.

I would say 9/11 was a traumatic event in that no one expected it.
But the election result was not exactly a total surprise.



DesideriScuri -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/4/2017 11:16:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
College professors here et al... feel free to reframe the question.
Are Americans traumatized? Explain.
Psychological trauma is a type of damage to the mind that occurs as a result of a severely distressing event. Trauma is often the result of an overwhelming amount of stress that exceeds one's ability to cope, or integrate the emotions involved with that experience.[1] A traumatic event involves one's experience, or repeating events of being overwhelmed that can be precipitated in weeks, years, or even decades as the person struggles to cope with the immediate circumstances, eventually leading to serious, long-term negative consequences.
However, trauma differs between individuals, according to their subjective experiences. People will react to similar events differently. In other words, not all people who experience a potentially traumatic event will actually become psychologically traumatized.[2] This discrepancy in risk rate can be attributed to protective factors some individuals may have that enable them to cope with trauma. Some examples are mild exposure to stress early in life,[3] resilience characteristics, and active seeking of help.[4]


I'm sure some are traumatized. However, the key line is:
    [quoteTrauma is often the result of an overwhelming amount of stress that exceeds one's ability to cope, or integrate the emotions involved with that experience.


I think it's more likely that we have either had an erosion or a complete loss of our ability to cope/integrate.

Getting fired from a job can be traumatizing to some. To others, it's no big deal. Trump winning the White House, however, shouldn't traumatize anyone. That's just silly, and indicative of someone who can't deal with much stress at all.

If someone didn't have a direct connection (either by knowing one of those who died, who luckily escaped, or who had to deal with the aftermath), or have a direct connection to that area, I can't see how 9/11 could actually traumatize someone. Sure, it's a huge point in history, but traumatizing?



DaddySatyr -> RE: Are Americans traumatized? (3/5/2017 1:34:34 AM)


"Traumatized" might be a bit extreme. I lost four people, that day (two in NYC and two in Wash. D.C.). I don't believe I was "traumatized" other than the realization that even with all our military superiority, we were damaged as heavily as we were.

I was (as an American) "traumatized" by that piece of shit law, inappropriately named: "PATRIOT Act". It was an assault on our constitution.

Then, I was "Traumatized" by Ol' Dumbo Ears fucking me out of my insurance coverage in his effort to "fundamentally change America".

On that general subject: I believe America was (generally) "traumatized" by the emasculation that we suffered, as a country, under that idiot's stewardship. His apology tour and his feckless behavior in the face of the rise of Islamic extremism caused (I believe) many of us to feel impotent on the world stage.

There was a time in our history, when a similar attack would have resulted in the entire middle east being devoid of all but the people we chose to let move there.

Lastly, I think some have been "traumatized" by the general swing of feminization of this country. Back in the '80s, men were entreated, cajoled, and bullied into becoming more sensitive. Certainly, a large portion of that is the result of un-married mothers, raising sons. Sorry, but just like I could never have taught a daughter how to be a woman, a mother canNOT teach a boy how to be a man. That has caused some major issues. It's why we have so many soft snowflakes, now.

Think about it: in 1944, nineteen-year-olds were storming the beaches at Normandy. Today, the little sissies need "safe spaces" on campus so they don't hear anything that might shake the very foundation of their feminized world view.

Disgusting.



Michael



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