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WhoreMods -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 9:31:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:10:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.


You are really that ignorant about Obama's lawless regime? Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws. Almost a trillion in "stimulus" spending disappeared, much of it to his cronies such as Solyndra. Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege...

The Obamacare scam, spying on journalists, the IRS scandal, Benghazi... The Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment, the NSA spying scandal

On and on. But I suspect that like most leftists you prefer to be ignorant, and that I am wasting my time feeding you clues





mnottertail -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:20:30 AM)

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Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws.


Of course the deporter-in-chief enforced the laws.

Now, I tell you who is not enforcing the laws, is the commie nutsuckers. Employing illegal aliens is a criminal voilation, yet not one single business has been arrested convicted and parted out. not one. Enforce the laws, you lawless nutsucker goons and thugs.




WhoreMods -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:22:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.


You are really that ignorant about Obama's lawless regime? Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws. Almost a trillion in "stimulus" spending disappeared, much of it to his cronies such as Solyndra. Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege...

The Obamacare scam, spying on journalists, the IRS scandal, Benghazi... The Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment, the NSA spying scandal

On and on. But I suspect that like most leftists you prefer to be ignorant, and that I am wasting my time feeding you clues



What does that have to do with your claim that it was mm's "peeps" assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls for those eight years?




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:25:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.


You are really that ignorant about Obama's lawless regime? Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws. Almost a trillion in "stimulus" spending disappeared, much of it to his cronies such as Solyndra. Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege...

The Obamacare scam, spying on journalists, the IRS scandal, Benghazi... The Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment, the NSA spying scandal

On and on. But I suspect that like most leftists you prefer to be ignorant, and that I am wasting my time feeding you clues



What does that have to do with your claim that it was mm's "peeps" assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls for those eight years?


Sorry, stupid like yours can't be fixed




WhoreMods -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:27:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.


You are really that ignorant about Obama's lawless regime? Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws. Almost a trillion in "stimulus" spending disappeared, much of it to his cronies such as Solyndra. Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege...

The Obamacare scam, spying on journalists, the IRS scandal, Benghazi... The Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment, the NSA spying scandal

On and on. But I suspect that like most leftists you prefer to be ignorant, and that I am wasting my time feeding you clues



What does that have to do with your claim that it was mm's "peeps" assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls for those eight years?


Sorry, stupid like yours can't be fixed

So you don't actually have an answer, and think you can weasel out of admitting that you were talking out of your arse by changing the subject.
Thought so.




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:27:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws.


Of course the deporter-in-chief enforced the laws.

Now, I tell you who is not enforcing the laws, is the commie nutsuckers. Employing illegal aliens is a criminal voilation, yet not one single business has been arrested convicted and parted out. not one. Enforce the laws, you lawless nutsucker goons and thugs.


Back to deportee in chief lie now, the racist alt left hates Mexicans and all that

Nice




Musicmystery -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:29:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


Always about me. What do you do when I'm not posting? Do you have Netflixs or something?

But I said "a lot of people," so my views and your views of my views are irrelevant here. It's a thing, and will be investigated at some point, more likely than not.


The left generally, you are just another cookie cutter leftist. Despite your pretending otherwise, Hillary was your candidate, a totally corrupt hag whose illegal activities you habitually ignored

Just like Obama, except his illegal behavior wasn't all for personal gain, like Hillarys appeared to be

Now you are shrieking about investigations and Russia, blah blah blah bullshit on and on

Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

Rule of law, constitution, my ass

All snake tears on your part



I'd be really curious how Hilary was my candidate when I campaigned for Sanders and voted for Stein.

That's gotta be some pile of "alternative facts."

Where do you get all this straw?




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:43:30 AM)

Yeah yeah yeah, you are a party of one, fighting for no particular ideology. You ooze like slime through every crack and crevice because you have no substance

We get it




mnottertail -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:47:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws.


Of course the deporter-in-chief enforced the laws.

Now, I tell you who is not enforcing the laws, is the commie nutsuckers. Employing illegal aliens is a criminal voilation, yet not one single business has been arrested convicted and parted out. not one. Enforce the laws, you lawless nutsucker goons and thugs.


Back to deportee in chief lie now, the racist alt left hates Mexicans and all that

Nice

The racist alt right hates Mexicans and to prove it they are charging the American Taxpayer 20 Billion dollars to build a wall instead of enforcing the law and incarcerating and selling out the criminal nutsucker lawless goons and thugs who employ the illegal Mexicans. You really enjoy the lies and the PutinJizz you are constantly felchgobbling, dont you?




WhoreMods -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 10:49:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:


Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws.


Of course the deporter-in-chief enforced the laws.

Now, I tell you who is not enforcing the laws, is the commie nutsuckers. Employing illegal aliens is a criminal voilation, yet not one single business has been arrested convicted and parted out. not one. Enforce the laws, you lawless nutsucker goons and thugs.


Back to deportee in chief lie now, the racist alt left hates Mexicans and all that

Nice

If we're on about lies: why were the alt left disrupting town halls during the usurper in chief's presidency?




Musicmystery -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/8/2017 11:23:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Yeah yeah yeah, you are a party of one, fighting for no particular ideology. You ooze like slime through every crack and crevice because you have no substance

We get it

No, neither the Green Party nor the Working Families Party, how I voted, are a party of one.

You don't get it.




bounty44 -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 5:59:16 AM)

"Congress Created a Monster"

oh no comrades, townhall!

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Those of us who believe that the Constitution means what it says have been arguing since the late 1970s that congressional efforts to strengthen national security by weakening personal liberty are unconstitutional, un-American and ineffective. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which Congress passed in the aftermath of President Richard Nixon's use of the CIA and the FBI to spy on his political opponents, has unleashed demons that now seem beyond the government's control and are more pervasive than anything Nixon could have dreamed of.

This realization came to a boiling point last weekend when President Donald Trump accused former President Barack Obama of monitoring his telephone calls during the 2016 presidential election campaign. Can a U.S. president legally spy on a political opponent or any other person in America without any suspicion, probable cause or warrant from a judge? In a word, yes.

Here is the back story.

The president can order the National Security Agency to spy on anyone at any time for any reason, without a warrant. This is profoundly unconstitutional but absolutely lawful because it is expressly authorized by the FISA statute.

All electronic surveillance today, whether ordered by the president or authorized by a court, is done remotely by accessing the computers of every telephone and computer service provider in the United States. The NSA has 24/7/365 access to all the mainframe computers of all the telephone and computer service providers in America.

The service providers are required by law to permit this access and are prohibited by law from complaining about it publicly, challenging it in court or revealing any of its details. In passing these prohibitions, Congress violated the First Amendment, which prohibits it from infringing upon the freedom of speech.

The fruits of electronic surveillance cannot be used in criminal prosecutions but can be shared with the president. If they are revealed publicly, the revelation constitutes computer hacking, a federal crime. Nevertheless, some of what was overheard from telephone conversations between the Russian ambassador to the U.S. and former Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security adviser, was revealed to the public -- a revelation that profoundly disturbed the White House and many in the intelligence community and constituted a crime.

The original purpose of FISA was to place the judiciary as an intermediary between the nation's spies and the foreign agents we all know are among us. The theory was that the NSA would first need to demonstrate to a secret court probable cause that the target of the spying is an agent of a foreign power and this would restrain the NSA from spying on ordinary Americans. This probable cause of foreign agency was a dramatic congressional rejection of the constitutional standard -- namely, probable cause of crime -- for the issuance of warrants. Foreign agency is not a crime.

This congressional rejection of constitutional norms began the slippery slope in which the foreign agency standard has morphed by legislation and by secret interpretations of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to probable cause of foreign personhood to probable cause of talking to a foreign person to probable cause of being able to talk to a foreign person to -- dropping the probable cause standard altogether -- anyone who speaks to anyone else who could speak to a foreign person.

This Orwellian and absurd expansion was developed by spies and approved by judges on the FISA court. The NSA argued that it would be more efficient to spy on everyone in the United States than to isolate bad people, and the court bought that argument.

Hence, FISA warrants do not name particular people or places as their targets as the Constitution requires. Rather, they merely continue in place the previous warrants, which encompass everyone in the country. FISA warrants are general warrants, allowing intelligence agents to listen to whomever they wish and retain whatever they hear. General warrants are expressly prohibited by the Fourth Amendment, which requires that all warrants for all purposes be based on probable cause of crime and particularly describe the person or thing to be seized -- e.g., a conversation -- or the place to be searched.

Even though the NSA already has the legal, though unconstitutional, authority to capture any phone conversation or computer keystroke it wishes, its 60,000 agents lack the resources to listen to all conversations or read all electronic communications in real time. But it does capture the digital versions of all computer keystrokes made in or to the U.S. and all conversations had within the U.S. or involving someone in the U.S.; it has been doing so since 2005. And it can download any conversation or text or email at will.

That's why the recent argument that Obama ordered the NSA to obtain a FISA warrant for Trump's telephone calls and a judge issued a warrant for them is nonsense. The NSA already has a digital version of every call Trump has made or received since 2005. Because the NSA -- which now works for Trump -- is a part of the Defense Department, it is subject to the orders of the president in his capacity as commander in chief. So if the commander in chief wants something that a military custodian already has or can create -- such as a transcript of an opponent's conversations with political strategists during a presidential campaign -- why would he bother getting a warrant? He wouldn't.

All of this leads to information overload -- so much material that the communications of evil people are safely hidden in with the mountain of data from the rest of us. The NSA captures the digital equivalent -- if printed -- of 27 times the contents of the Library of Congress every year.

All of this also leads to the monstrous power of the NSA to manipulate, torment and control the president by selectively concealing and selectively revealing data to him. The Constitution does not entrust such power to anyone in government. But Congress has given it.

All of this also substantially impairs a fundamental personal liberty, the right to be left alone -- a right for which we seceded from Great Britain, a right guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment and a right for which we fought wars against tyrants who we feared would take it from us.

Yet after we won those wars, we permitted our elected representatives to crush that right. Those faithless representatives have created a monster that has now turned on us.


https://townhall.com/columnists/judgeandrewnapolitano/2017/03/09/congress-created-a-monster-n2295811




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 6:04:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Yeah yeah yeah, you are a party of one, fighting for no particular ideology. You ooze like slime through every crack and crevice because you have no substance

We get it

No, neither the Green Party nor the Working Families Party, how I voted, are a party of one.

You don't get it.


We are grown accustomed to your blatant dripping oozing dishonesty

You have posted right here that the only reason you didn't vote for your girl, was that she was a sure thing in your state





BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 6:06:07 AM)

Yes, bounty, it is becoming more and more clear every day that President Trump is correct yet again




Musicmystery -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 6:15:05 AM)

You know, when you are unable to refute people's actual positions, and have to make up your own versions, you're both clearly wrong and deeply in denial.

Then you double down on it. I don't know why--it makes you look more and more ridiculous, and you seem to crave respect, even as you continually ensure you drive away any chance of it, just be be sure you're not rejected.




BoscoX -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 6:17:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You know, when you are unable to refute people's actual positions, and have to make up your own versions, you're both clearly wrong and deeply in denial.

Then you double down on it. I don't know why--it makes you look more and more ridiculous, and you seem to crave respect, even as you continually ensure you drive away any chance of it, just be be sure you're not rejected.


I know, I know, I know, mnottertroll. "Felchgobbling nutsucker beelzebub felchwich nothingsuch feelestorm summernut"

You really told me [:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/9/2017 6:18:39 AM)

Again, over your head. You just don't get it.

I doubt you ever will.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/10/2017 5:25:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Rings totally hollow now, after eight years of your people - and amid your peeps assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls etc

What, the eight years of that which took place while there was an uppity democrat in the white house?
Wasn't the alt left doing that, sport: that was you people and your tea party.


You are really that ignorant about Obama's lawless regime? Obama refused to enforce the laws he was sworn to enforce, such as our immigration laws. Almost a trillion in "stimulus" spending disappeared, much of it to his cronies such as Solyndra. Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege...

The Obamacare scam, spying on journalists, the IRS scandal, Benghazi... The Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment, the NSA spying scandal

On and on. But I suspect that like most leftists you prefer to be ignorant, and that I am wasting my time feeding you clues



What does that have to do with your claim that it was mm's "peeps" assaulting citizens and disrupting townhalls for those eight years?


Sorry, stupid like yours can't be fixed

Stupid like yours was never imagined before you brought it into print Comrade liar.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Over A Dozen Past Obama Wiretaps: An Obamagate Inventory (3/10/2017 6:16:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

What Trump has done by trumping up this issue and insisting on an investigation is to ensure his and his team's connections to and collusion with Russia will be investigated (how carefully depends on who ends up doing the investigation).

Not a sharp strategist there.


The president has said "bring it"

[image]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4557182/images/o-DONALD-TRUMP-FIST-facebook.jpg[/image]

No one gives a fuck about the bullshit fake news "Russia stole the election" hysteria, except for a few mindless alt left radicals.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It looks like Fred Sanford in whiteface




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