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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 6:12:36 AM   
respectmen


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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 6:23:09 AM   
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But it's always just dandy for sub men to objectify Fem Doms and hold them to fantasy standards. Yes,there are a lot of pros in the scene-people like you enable the behavior you despise. Blame the supply side.


Objectification only seems bad when it's towards women.

Speaking of fantasy standards, many women on this site just want this special male, the top 1 percent that's available. That's a hell a lot more than a male feeling entitled to just the next door domme. The irony never seems to cross the minds of many.


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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 6:36:35 AM   
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But it's always just dandy for sub men to objectify Fem Doms and hold them to fantasy standards. Yes,there are a lot of pros in the scene-people like you enable the behavior you despise. Blame the supply side.


Objectification only seems bad when it's towards women.

Speaking of fantasy standards, many women on this site just want this special male, the top 1 percent that's available. That's a hell a lot more than a male feeling entitled to just the next door domme. The irony never seems to cross the minds of many.



Because they are masochists. The less inclined find things to do besides typing.

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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 9:20:12 AM   
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But a watermelon can't give consent. Not saying no isn't saying yes.

True. I probably owe a serious dang apology to the inanimate objects that I used to practice throwing whips on.



I see... I wonder how you would effectively apologize to something that can't hear or see you? If you ever figure that one out, please let me know. I have a long list of inanimate objects I owe apologies.

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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 9:46:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
But a watermelon can't give consent. Not saying no isn't saying yes.

True. I probably owe a serious dang apology to the inanimate objects that I used to practice throwing whips on.



I see... I wonder how you would effectively apologize to something that can't hear or see you? If you ever figure that one out, please let me know. I have a long list of inanimate objects I owe apologies.

When we lived in PR, CA, we had this kind of gazebo type structure. On this dumb thing, there were these hanging vines. This was one of the best whip practice playgrounds EVER.



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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 12:03:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have noticed over the years that male subs as a group are very keen on humilliation. Not all of course, but its pretty common. Maybe dommes are striking the "better than you bitch" pose because its attractive to their target audience.

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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 12:52:39 PM   
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I have noticed over the years that male subs as a group are very keen on humilliation. Not all of course, but its pretty common. Maybe dommes are striking the "better than you bitch" pose because its attractive to their target audience.



Yes i suppose dommes need to be pleasing to their potential 'subs'... to the point of making themselves look as ugly as possible.

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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 1:01:07 PM   
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nothing like a bit of dungeon fluff to get some "doms" chest thumping and posing.



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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 1:01:46 PM   
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RE: Dommes - 3/20/2017 1:24:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
But a watermelon can't give consent. Not saying no isn't saying yes.

True. I probably owe a serious dang apology to the inanimate objects that I used to practice throwing whips on.



I see... I wonder how you would effectively apologize to something that can't hear or see you? If you ever figure that one out, please let me know. I have a long list of inanimate objects I owe apologies.

When we lived in PR, CA, we had this kind of gazebo type structure. On this dumb thing, there were these hanging vines. This was one of the best whip practice playgrounds EVER.




I'm never going to regard vineyards without thinking of whips ever again


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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 10:59:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		This whole thread has degenerated into a whine about male bottoms feeling entitled to use women who happen to identify as Tops.

I say "bottoms" because there is not a shred of anything implying a desire to submit.

You people are whaleshit-good luck-renew your minds.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 12:27:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

This whole thread has degenerated into a whine about male bottoms feeling entitled to use women who happen to identify as Tops.

I say "bottoms" because there is not a shred of anything implying a desire to submit.

You people are whaleshit-good luck-renew your minds.



That pretty much sums it up.

Why won't random women just automatically serve my penis?! Why do they think they're so special?! Why do they think they're actually worthy of respect?! I hate women! Rage!!!

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 12:55:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		RM doesn't understand the basics of human interaction, and he also doesn't understand what a relationship is. He thinks that it's about achieving a certain status, which for women means looking a certain way. The male equivalent would be having a lot of money. Or maybe he thinks that it's like unlocking the next level of a video game.

I actually find it really sad that there are such empty people out there who don't understand how a relationship develops in real life and don't even know how to interact with another human being. It's actually really sad.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 6:37:33 PM   
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RM doesn't understand the basics of human interaction, and he also doesn't understand what a relationship is. He thinks that it's about achieving a certain status, which for women means looking a certain way. The male equivalent would be having a lot of money. Or maybe he thinks that it's like unlocking the next level of a video game.

I actually find it really sad that there are such empty people out there who don't understand how a relationship develops in real life and don't even know how to interact with another human being. It's actually really sad.

There will not be any improvement,let's move on.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 6:41:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sadder that it's so easy to make changes but he refuses to do what's necessary to become a person worth loving, a person other people want to be with.

He must get something from being lonely. If only the satisfaction of telling himself that he was right, no one will ever love him.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 6:45:20 PM   
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Sadder that it's so easy to make changes but he refuses to do what's necessary to become a person worth loving, a person other people want to be with.

He must get something from being lonely. If only the satisfaction of telling himself that he was right, no one will ever love him.

This could have been the place to start healing from his issues, and attract someone who might love him. Humility, and the ability to take off the armor and risk being hurt. Hatred is an acid that eats the soul until, nothing is left of the man. There is still time.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 6:53:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not unless he's brave enough to be open and vulnerable and face the pain.

I had an abscess on my gum once. The only way to deal with that low level pain was to let them lance it which hurt like hell.
Same with emotional pain. Until you're willing to do the hard work in therapy, nothing else will work.

There are no short cuts.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 7:03:42 PM   
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Not unless he's brave enough to be open and vulnerable and face the pain.

I had an abscess on my gum once. The only way to deal with that low level pain was to let them lance it which hurt like hell.
Same with emotional pain. Until you're willing to do the hard work in therapy, nothing else will work.

There are no short cuts.

They don't do 'likes' here but have a virtual one. True and common sense. Which is what reality should look like.

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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 8:10:30 PM   
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RM doesn't understand the basics of human interaction, and he also doesn't understand what a relationship is. He thinks that it's about achieving a certain status, which for women means looking a certain way. The male equivalent would be having a lot of money. Or maybe he thinks that it's like unlocking the next level of a video game.

I actually find it really sad that there are such empty people out there who don't understand how a relationship develops in real life and don't even know how to interact with another human being. It's actually really sad.


There is so much to reply to in this thread and 2 other threads which I will save for in the comfort of my laptop at home.

A quick response to this, it has nothing to do with me not understanding human interaction, it has everything to do with you and others refusing to understand male sexuality and instead of being willing to understand, you use predijuce and slam it instead. It's an easy way for you to escape blame and lay all the fault on men.

Just because a sub male expresses his BDSM desires on a BDSM website, this doesn't make him self entitled, self serving, or disrespectful. He has a right to have standards too, he has a right to seek certain niches too. He has a right to have desires too.

You lot seem to think submissive men should just be mindless robots that have no desires of their own and no personality of their own. They are just there for your purpose to be whoever you want them to be.

Male subs aren't allowed to think for themselves apparently.



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RE: Dommes - 3/21/2017 8:12:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		RM... these people are clueless. And they like it that way.

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