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The standard practice of almost every president since Nixon is now a purge?
Every time a new president comes into office, it is not unusual for him to ask for the resignation of federal attorneys that were appointed by his predecessor. In fact it is pretty much a given, although it is usually stretched out over months.
Report: Preet Bharara won't survive Trump's purge of US attorneys
Reagan did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it and finally Obama did it.
But now its a purge.
However, given some of the bone headed programs of the Obama administration, such as gun running to Mexico, is this really a bad thing?
Between a lot of Trump's Tweets, the Press twisting headlines to suit a failed agenda of the former administration, and the extremist views on both sides of the political stage, the current thinking in the US is like combining The Honeymooners with Shakespeare and adding Seth McFarland's Family Guy and American Dad for added spice.

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The standard practice of almost every president since Nixon is now a purge?

Every time a new president comes into office, it is not unusual for him to ask for the resignation of federal attorneys that were appointed by his predecessor. In fact it is pretty much a given, although it is usually stretched out over months.

Report: Preet Bharara won't survive Trump's purge of US attorneys

Reagan did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it and finally Obama did it.

But now its a purge.

However, given some of the bone headed programs of the Obama administration, such as gun running to Mexico, is this really a bad thing?

Between a lot of Trump's Tweets, the Press twisting headlines to suit a failed agenda of the former administration, and the extremist views on both sides of the political stage, the current thinking in the US is like combining The Honeymooners with Shakespeare and adding Seth McFarland's Family Guy and American Dad for added spice.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The standard practice of almost every president since Nixon is now a purge?

Every time a new president comes into office, it is not unusual for him to ask for the resignation of federal attorneys that were appointed by his predecessor. In fact it is pretty much a given, although it is usually stretched out over months.

Report: Preet Bharara won't survive Trump's purge of US attorneys

Reagan did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it and finally Obama did it.

But now its a purge.

However, given some of the bone headed programs of the Obama administration, such as gun running to Mexico, is this really a bad thing?

Between a lot of Trump's Tweets, the Press twisting headlines to suit a failed agenda of the former administration, and the extremist views on both sides of the political stage, the current thinking in the US is like combining The Honeymooners with Shakespeare and adding Seth McFarland's Family Guy and American Dad for added spice.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The standard practice of almost every president since Nixon is now a purge?

Every time a new president comes into office, it is not unusual for him to ask for the resignation of federal attorneys that were appointed by his predecessor. In fact it is pretty much a given, although it is usually stretched out over months.

Report: Preet Bharara won't survive Trump's purge of US attorneys

Reagan did it, Clinton did it, Bush did it and finally Obama did it.

But now its a purge.

However, given some of the bone headed programs of the Obama administration, such as gun running to Mexico, is this really a bad thing?

Between a lot of Trump's Tweets, the Press twisting headlines to suit a failed agenda of the former administration, and the extremist views on both sides of the political stage, the current thinking in the US is like combining The Honeymooners with Shakespeare and adding Seth McFarland's Family Guy and American Dad for added spice.

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Good for you, you saw through the propaganda this one time.

With all of the problems that Obama holdovers have been causing the President there will necessarily be more such "purges" in the future too, in different agencies.

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Good for you, you saw through the propaganda this one time.

With all of the problems that Obama holdovers have been causing the President there will necessarily be more such "purges" in the future too, in different agencies.

It is not that I "saw through the propaganda" it is just that this is a common practice with all new presidents.

My issue is that the news papers know it is a common practice, has been for since before Reagan.

Even appointed attorneys know it is bound to happen if a president is elected from another party.

My issue, as it has been with all the American news media is that none of them, not FOX, not MSNBC, nor any of the papers simply report the news. Every one of them has to put some twist on the information that takes it from news to bullshit.

While it is true that there have always been reporters that would voice their opinion on a subject, Edward R. Murrow was well known for his opinions, and for the most part, respected by both sides of the aisle because he made it clear, they were his opinions.

But, more to the point, he reported the facts first as news.

There in lies the problem with the modern news media.

If an asteroid were to hit the US and do significant damage, depending on which outlet, it would either be Donald Trump's fault or the fault of the Obama administration.

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It's the Oval Office that needs a purge.

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It's the Oval Office that needs a purge.

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It's the Oval Office that needs a purge.

Shit, still butthurt about losing. Get over it.

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It's the Oval Office that needs a purge.

No worries, we vote every four years just like clockwork

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Good for you, you saw through the propaganda this one time.

With all of the problems that Obama holdovers have been causing the President there will necessarily be more such "purges" in the future too, in different agencies.

It is not that I "saw through the propaganda" it is just that this is a common practice with all new presidents.

My issue is that the news papers know it is a common practice, has been for since before Reagan.

Even appointed attorneys know it is bound to happen if a president is elected from another party.

My issue, as it has been with all the American news media is that none of them, not FOX, not MSNBC, nor any of the papers simply report the news. Every one of them has to put some twist on the information that takes it from news to bullshit.

While it is true that there have always been reporters that would voice their opinion on a subject, Edward R. Murrow was well known for his opinions, and for the most part, respected by both sides of the aisle because he made it clear, they were his opinions.

But, more to the point, he reported the facts first as news.

There in lies the problem with the modern news media.

If an asteroid were to hit the US and do significant damage, depending on which outlet, it would either be Donald Trump's fault or the fault of the Obama administration.

Pretending that "everybody does it" is cute and all, but most of the dying legacy media is alt left. ABC,CBS, NBC, NPR, NYT, TIME, USA Today, etc.

Throw a lot of the newer outlets into the mix too, CNN and MSNBC - as well as entertainment media. All of Hollywood, everything on TV, most magazines tilt way to the alt left

Conservative media, or rather balanced media, came into being recently as a direct response to the assault of the old radical left media on the truth

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Good for you, you saw through the propaganda this one time.

With all of the problems that Obama holdovers have been causing the President there will necessarily be more such "purges" in the future too, in different agencies.

It is not that I "saw through the propaganda" it is just that this is a common practice with all new presidents.

My issue is that the news papers know it is a common practice, has been for since before Reagan.

Even appointed attorneys know it is bound to happen if a president is elected from another party.

My issue, as it has been with all the American news media is that none of them, not FOX, not MSNBC, nor any of the papers simply report the news. Every one of them has to put some twist on the information that takes it from news to bullshit.

While it is true that there have always been reporters that would voice their opinion on a subject, Edward R. Murrow was well known for his opinions, and for the most part, respected by both sides of the aisle because he made it clear, they were his opinions.

But, more to the point, he reported the facts first as news.

There in lies the problem with the modern news media.

If an asteroid were to hit the US and do significant damage, depending on which outlet, it would either be Donald Trump's fault or the fault of the Obama administration.

Pretending that "everybody does it" is cute and all, but most of the dying legacy media is alt left. ABC,CBS, NBC, NPR, NYT, TIME, USA Today, etc.

Throw a lot of the newer outlets into the mix too, CNN and MSNBC - as well as entertainment media. All of Hollywood, everything on TV, most magazines tilt way to the alt left

Conservative media, or rather balanced media, came into being recently as a direct response to the assault of the old radical left media on the truth

What 'cute?'

It was the conservative media that kept insisting that 'Death panels' were a part of ACA, and that was not the case in the least.

While it is true the ACA is a screwed up piece of legislation, there were no death panels.

The conservative media, while not outwardly supporting the 'birther' nonsense, did nothing to put an end to it, even after the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii produced the original record of Obama's birth.

There is not a single news outlet in the states that 'just reports the news.'

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Right, lets look at FOX news claims:
Obamacare includes Death Panels to allow doctors to stop treatment of patients (which is basically illegal, unethical and against their oath as doctors) FALSE.

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this has been addressed multiple times in media coverage and to say "its wrong" is actually wrong.

I posted this sometime last year:

"if you have a panel of people that can decide what care critically ill patients can get, and what care they cannot, and care is rationed---“death panel” seems to be an apt euphemism to describe them. If you don’t like it, come up with another moniker that describes their work without glossing over the fact that they actually will have the authority to “condemn” certain patients to death."

here is something else I posted (and you were actually in this thread for goodness sake!):

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Keep in mind, by the way, that the Liverpool Care Pathway is sort of akin to the IPAB “death panel” in Obamacare.

Defenders of government-run healthcare say that’s nonsense and assert that there won’t be any rationing, denial of care, or requirements for euthanasia. That’s technically true, but the Obamacare death panel will be determining what’s an acceptable treatment and what’s the government-approved payment schedule.

Crushed by Obamacare?

So it’s sort of like holding a rock in your hand, standing over a kitten, letting go of the rock, watching it hit the kitten, but then claiming that you did nothing wrong because gravity caused the rock to fall.

Okay, that’s a morbid example, but you get the point. And my concern isn’t that rationing only exists with a government-run system. Any healthcare system will involve rationing. The real issue is whether individuals are part of a free society so they can make the choice of how to ration.

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Obama himself infamously said that old people don't deserve certain expensive medical care, though a pain pill might be provided

You can't lead some people to the truth though

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When Congress debated Obamacare, pro-life advocates and Republicans like Sarah Palin were castigated for claiming the government-run health care program would include death panels that would ration health care treatment.

Now, former presidential candidate Howard Dean has essentially admitted they were right and is calling for the repeal of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Monday he called the IPAB “essentially a health-care rationing body” that he believes will fail…

The IPAB was labeled a “death panel” by Republicans in the run-up to the 2010 midterm elections; among its most prominent critics was former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

On the campaign trail last year, Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s vice presidential nominee, said that with the board, Mr. Obama “puts a board of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of Medicare, who are required to cut Medicare in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors.”

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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Good for you, you saw through the propaganda this one time.

With all of the problems that Obama holdovers have been causing the President there will necessarily be more such "purges" in the future too, in different agencies.

It is not that I "saw through the propaganda" it is just that this is a common practice with all new presidents.

My issue is that the news papers know it is a common practice, has been for since before Reagan.

Even appointed attorneys know it is bound to happen if a president is elected from another party.

My issue, as it has been with all the American news media is that none of them, not FOX, not MSNBC, nor any of the papers simply report the news. Every one of them has to put some twist on the information that takes it from news to bullshit.

While it is true that there have always been reporters that would voice their opinion on a subject, Edward R. Murrow was well known for his opinions, and for the most part, respected by both sides of the aisle because he made it clear, they were his opinions.

But, more to the point, he reported the facts first as news.

There in lies the problem with the modern news media.

If an asteroid were to hit the US and do significant damage, depending on which outlet, it would either be Donald Trump's fault or the fault of the Obama administration.

Pretending that "everybody does it" is cute and all, but most of the dying legacy media is alt left. ABC,CBS, NBC, NPR, NYT, TIME, USA Today, etc.

Throw a lot of the newer outlets into the mix too, CNN and MSNBC - as well as entertainment media. All of Hollywood, everything on TV, most magazines tilt way to the alt left

Conservative media, or rather balanced media, came into being recently as a direct response to the assault of the old radical left media on the truth

What 'cute?'

It was the conservative media that kept insisting that 'Death panels' were a part of ACA, and that was not the case in the least.

While it is true the ACA is a screwed up piece of legislation, there were no death panels.

The conservative media, while not outwardly supporting the 'birther' nonsense, did nothing to put an end to it, even after the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii produced the original record of Obama's birth.

There is not a single news outlet in the states that 'just reports the news.'

Actually, there were provisions to set up panels for determining necessary medical needs, including end of life needs.