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Milesnmiles -> RE: The ACLU Is Now Training Rioters (3/13/2017 1:37:31 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
If they are not using "fighting words," swearing, or shoving and hitting each other, I will leave them alone because it is none of my business. I am not Mrs. Kravitz there is not reason to be involved if their are no safety issues. If they were swearing and children were with me, I might say something about that, depending on where I was at compared to them. Across the street or parking lot? Ignore them. At a store's entrance? Yep. I am gonna say something.
Thanx for answering a basically rhetorical question and doing so ignoring the question at hand, which is what is free speech.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Obscenities are not Constitutionally protected speech.
That too is a subject of debate, since no one is quite sure what obscenity really is.
Myself, I believe most rap “songs” obscene but someone must feel they are protected by free speech.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
And this is one of the problems. Left-leaning institutions are NOT removing the heckler's veto from the venue. With the Milo incident, Berkley charged Milo for extra security and then did not provide it. I am pretty sure that is breach of contract. Regardless, it gives approval to the shutting down of free speech which is censorship. Perhaps if Milo sued them over this “breach of contract” there would less of it happening. So, to me, “Right-leaning Milo” also seems to have a hand in this “shutting down of free speech which is censorship.”
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
But it is NOT being dealt with by law enforcement. Law enforcement stands aside or is told to stand down. Does the phrase, "Let them have room to destroy," ring any bells?
Again my personal opinion in the matter was that they should have declared a curfew and enforced it.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Arrests are not being made for attacks on people.
They should be.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
People are applauding violence.
I’m not.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Do you recall the "Punch a Nazi" thing? That is actually suggesting that people use physical violence against thoughts they do not like. A serious violation of the social contract.
No I didn’t and had to look it up.
Even though Mr. Spencer, himself said: “he thought the attack happened, in part, because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
“There was an actual anti-fascist rally going on, and I walked into it,””.
Even then, I would say violence was uncalled for and illegal.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
So overall, you have the left and lefty institutions aiding and abetting in the suppression of free speech. And using violence to accomplish it.
I seem to recall seeing someone disturbing a Trump convention and as he was being removed a man stood up and punched him, what do you suppose happened to that man, was he arrested and now in jail for assault and battery?
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Those who come to the left's peaceful protests and use the heckler's veto or the thug's veto, are what I would call the alt-left. Actually, I prefer the term the Ctrl-left.
I guess you can call them whatever you want to but thugs and hecklers seems to work for me.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Now the left certainly does not call them out for their violence and destruction. They applaud them. They desire to emulate them.
Well I’m not left or right but I certainly call anyone out for violence and destruction whether from the left or the right. I certainly do not applaud violence and destruction and have no desire to emulate them.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
They envision themselves as "This Resistance" from Les Mis. I keep expecting to hear:
Arise children of the fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody standard is raised
Listen to the sound in the fields
The howling of these fearsome soldiers
They are coming into our midst
To cut the throats of your sons and consorts
To arms citizens Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows
As a historical note, the June Rebellion did not turn out so well. Well, really, the French do not do revolution very well. It tends to end in mass slaughter.
Not that I approve but history shows that when people are starving and watching their children starve they can act very unkindly toward those they think are causing it.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
If the left really does not like the tactics it appears the ctrl-left is using, then it needs to denounce them and prevent them. They need to police their own. But they have chosen not to. So they own the violence at their protests and they own the violence that will eventually come from the other side.
Likewise, for the Right.
Speaking of that, what ever happened to Joe Wilson for interrupting a speech by U.S. President Barack Obama to the joint session of Congress by shouting "You lie!"?
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