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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 8:19:55 AM   
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Remember you two, WM and Edwird (nice to see you settling on one profile), some of us read only science, waffle and the beano, and cannot even play the spoons, and long gone with senility. Others still have read less, or only fine establishments like townhall.com. got a russianjackal cock jammed up my arse.com no need to name names eh" guffaws

But the point of this thread was he lied again because he is a mad lying fuk, and he embellished his own lie with more lies the president of the United States

actually ive not looked at townhall.com for a week and the brexitbart thingy - wanders off for a laugh

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 9:59:51 AM   
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Had Bush been president when the latest CIA scandal broke your faux red-faced outrage would have been the stuff of faux legends

But the affirmative action president was in charge so it's "nothing to see here" as always
Have kind of a short memory, do you? Have you forgotten? Bush was wiretapping everyone.
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That was the alt left hysteria at the time, "Bushitler" blah blah blah

Everyone is Hitler... Hitlers everywhere. We get it

You need to learn how to read for comprehension though. Reread what I wrote, pay careful attention to the "when the latest CIA scandal broke" part this time


I don't believe I said anything about; "when the latest CIA scandal broke" maybe you can point that out to me.

As for what I said; it seemed to be pretty common knowledge Bush went overboard using the (un)Patriot Act but then he was on the Right and you
seem to turn a blind eye to anything the Right might do.

But here you go, maybe this will refesh your memory:
NSA warrantless surveillance (2001–07)
The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy ("warrantless wiretapping") concerns surveillance of persons within the United States during the collection of allegedly foreign intelligence by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) as part of the touted war on terror. Under this program, referred to by the Bush administration as the terrorist surveillance program,[1] part of the broader President's Surveillance Program, the NSA was authorized by executive order to monitor, without search warrants, the phone calls, Internet activity (Web, e-mail, etc.), text messaging, and other communication involving any party believed by the NSA to be outside the U.S., even if the other end of the communication lies within the U.S. However, it has been discovered that all U.S. communications have been digitally cloned by government agencies, in apparent violation of unreasonable search and seizure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(2001%E2%80%9307)

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 10:02:32 AM   
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I love the "When Trump said 'wiretapping,' he didn't mean 'wiretapping.'"

I guess it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.


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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 12:55:23 PM   
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Seen on social media: "They spy on you through your microwaves because they know it's the one place you can't put tin foil."



This would be funny except that people's TVs are spying on them.

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/02/07/vizio-caught-spying-on-customers-through-their-tvs/

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The popular TV maker Vizio began in 2014 to incorporate software into its TV sets to collect information about our viewing habits on a second-by-second basis. Then, working with a data analytics company, they were able to associate that data with very detailed and specific personal information of the viewers. Yes, Vizio sold you a TV set and turned around and spied on you as a thank you for your business!
Vizio installed the software on 11 million TV sets without ever asking for permission or informing their owners that they were collecting the data. After a lawsuit was filed by the FTC and the state of New Jersey, Vizio settled and paid a fine of $2.2 million.



And in Germany, some people are destroying dolls.

https://pjmedia.com/parenting/2017/02/20/these-dolls-were-classified-as-hidden-espionage-devices-in-one-country/


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Since My Friend Cayla has the potential to steal the information of the children who play with it, she is a no-no in Germany. The doll has been removed from the market by the Federal Network Agency, and parents who have already purchased Cayla are actually expected to destroy her. Seem a little extreme? Maybe not when it comes to small children.


Consumerist explains how the toy operates:

They connect via Bluetooth to a mobile phone app, usually belonging to a parent, and then from there access the internet in order to interact with kids and answer their questions. To accomplish that feat, the apps record and collect conversations between the toys and the kids, and use speech-to-text protocols to turn kids’ questions into searchable queries.

When users first set up the app for their toy, they may be sharing data you don’t want shared. Cayla in particular asks for multiple pieces of personal information — the child’s name, their parents’ names, their school name, their hometown, among other questions — so it can converse more naturally. The app also allows for location setting, and both the Cayla and i-Que apps collect users’ IP addresses.

If that doesn't creep you out, maybe this will: the information is then transmitted to the servers at the headquarters of Nuance Communications, the company that provides Cayla with her voice-parsing services.


I am not so sure about the whole "internet of things."

I suppose that the microwave MIGHT be spying on you if it is connected to the internet.



Heres one I thought you might find ...interesting ( I had heard of the ones you mentioned before, but this is new to me too)
Those online apps to remote control vibes... good idea for fun, but not exactly private.

Vibrator Maker To Pay Millions Over Claims It Secretly Tracked Use
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/14/520123490/vibrator-maker-to-pay-millions-over-claims-it-secretly-tracked-use
The makers of the We-Vibe, a line of vibrators that can be paired with an app for remote-controlled use, have reached a $3.75 million class action settlement with users following allegations that the company was collecting data on when and how the sex toy was used.

Standard Innovations, the Canadian manufacturer of the We-Vibe, does not admit any wrongdoing in the settlement finalized Monday.

The We-Vibe product line includes a number of Bluetooth-enabled vibrators that, when linked to the "We-Connect" app, can be controlled from a smartphone. It allows a user to vary rhythms, patterns and settings — or give a partner, in the room or anywhere in the world, control of the device. (You can see a video promoting the app's features here; be advised, it is briefly not safe for work.)
more at the link

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 4:34:04 PM   
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Heres one I thought you might find ...interesting ( I had heard of the ones you mentioned before, but this is new to me too)
Those online apps to remote control vibes... good idea for fun, but not exactly private.

Vibrator Maker To Pay Millions Over Claims It Secretly Tracked Use
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/14/520123490/vibrator-maker-to-pay-millions-over-claims-it-secretly-tracked-use
The makers of the We-Vibe, a line of vibrators that can be paired with an app for remote-controlled use, have reached a $3.75 million class action settlement with users following allegations that the company was collecting data on when and how the sex toy was used.

Standard Innovations, the Canadian manufacturer of the We-Vibe, does not admit any wrongdoing in the settlement finalized Monday.

The We-Vibe product line includes a number of Bluetooth-enabled vibrators that, when linked to the "We-Connect" app, can be controlled from a smartphone. It allows a user to vary rhythms, patterns and settings — or give a partner, in the room or anywhere in the world, control of the device. (You can see a video promoting the app's features here; be advised, it is briefly not safe for work.)
more at the link
So that's how they found us!
;-)

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/15/2017 5:17:42 PM   
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When I sold sex toys, I was going to "road test" a we vibe, but it just didnt do anything for me, so I dumped it, but that was before the app came along.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/16/2017 4:36:28 AM   
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Just to get back on point, Trumps wiretap claims seem to have stirred up quite a hornets nest, even among Republicans.
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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/16/2017 5:20:41 AM   
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But "wire tapping" isnt wiretapping, and there are "so many ways to wire tap," so we have to wait 2 weeks to wait and see what his alternative-proof, truth and facts are.

So far there is No proof to be found...maybe they need time to make something up. But comeys lack of interest, in responding to repubs has been interesting. Im left waiting for mondays dead line to pass, before getting excited. While I like what Lindsay Graham is doing regarding subpoenas for FBI warrants, considering russia and the tapping itself. I dont think the truth ...will come out, from anyone. WHile I despise the man and his admin....I m not so naive to trust everything the "intelligence community" says.
If Trumps proof is verifiable, it wouldnt surprise me, BUT...it would need to be on video level proof, and independently verified sound and video.
Lets face it, he says he was going to prove so many things, until he changes his mind.



In the mean time, I await the next news cycle and enjoy all the microwave/camera/spying jokes drowning the interwebs
Nunes admission yesterday "We don't have any evidence. ... I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower," the chairman, Republican Rep. Devin Nunes of California, told reporters.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/15/house-intelligence-chair-i-dont-think-there-was-an-actual-tap-of-trump-tower.html





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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/16/2017 9:58:56 AM   
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... until he changes his mind. ...
He doesn't really change his mind. It's more like he just loses interest and moves on to something else to stir up controversy. It's like he thinks people aren't playing me enough attention and have to do something to get it back.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 5:22:07 PM   
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Loved kellyannes suggestion that Obama had bugged the microwaves.




Had Bush been president when the latest CIA scandal broke your faux red-faced outrage would have been the stuff of faux legends

But the affirmative action president was in charge so it's "nothing to see here" as always


Lmfao....... Are you unable to read. Trumps team made a claim and cant back it up, luckily for them fuckwits like you lap it up.

No wait, Kelly has a point. I just set my Microve timer to take a photo and out popped a fucking ready meal.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 6:20:07 PM   
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Just to get back on point, Trumps wiretap claims seem to have stirred up quite a hornets nest, even among Republicans.
;-)

The Republicans want to be reelected and they are going to have a more difficult time if their fearless leader and his sycophants keep appearing to be batshit crazy.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 6:28:33 PM   
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Hitler thought in a "conservative" manner?

Other than being historically false in every conceivable way



This should be entertaining.....

Go on then - why is it 'false'?

Some current US conservative/libertarian trends in thought are generally considered to be:

1. Smaller, less intrusive government.
2. Respect for private property
3. Respect for individual rights





Does the patriot act not ring any bells here Firm ? It rides roughshod over the three items listed above. Its ironic the right love to use the term health care nazis, yet get upset when similar comments are aimed in reverse.


No compass

A couple more olden goldies, from a time when hypocritical old "Polite" routinely became indignant at the suggestion of government eavesdropping

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2781115

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4086940

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4502091

While the Wikileaks revelation about drastically increased CIA eavesdropping under Obama, means nothing to him.


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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 6:39:21 PM   
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Just to get back on point, Trumps wiretap claims seem to have stirred up quite a hornets nest, even among Republicans.
;-)

The Republicans want to be reelected and they are going to have a more difficult time if their fearless leader and his sycophants keep appearing to be batshit crazy.


You mean like paying people to pummel and pepper spray women and beat old people, rioting and committing arson at opposition rallies, demonstrating outside of politicians' homes, stalking opposition politician's family members, even mothers with babies and ambushing them with screams of wild accusations and threats?

Wait, you alt left psychopaths doing that

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 8:33:19 PM   
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I love the "When Trump said 'wiretapping,' he didn't mean 'wiretapping.'"

I guess it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.




It's a connector denoting a state of being as shown in this example: He is President of the United States.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 8:40:03 PM   
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Trump wiretap claims: White House softens stance on unproven tweets

Unsubstantiated claims by US President Donald Trump that he was wiretapped by Barack Obama were not meant literally, the White House press secretary says.

Sean Spicer said Mr Trump had broadly meant "surveillance and other activities" when he made the allegation in a tweet earlier this month.

He also suggested the president was not accusing his predecessor specifically

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39262158

In his tweet Mr Trump said: "Just found out that Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory."

He added: "Is it legal for a sitting President to be 'wire tapping' a race for president?"
Despite repeated requests, the White House has not given any evidence for the claim.

President lying dangerous fuk
His lying rat bastards trying to cover up his lies with more lies








I think he is right, "wire tapped" is a phrase that goes back to a time when one's phone is being tapped by a connection to the wire. Nobody taps into physical wires anymore but the phrase is still used. Kinda like saying "hey, I need a soda" when in fact you will not be going to a drug store soda fountain but will be dropping coins into the closes "Coke machine". I'm glad we had this talk.

Another example is "path to 270". That phrase was used by the alt Left Media when in fact no such real path existed for Hillary.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/18/2017 8:45:04 PM   
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...another was "according to the latest poll" when in fact the results were not from asking voters but from wishful thinking.

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/19/2017 5:07:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

Just to get back on point, Trumps wiretap claims seem to have stirred up quite a hornets nest, even among Republicans.
;-)

The Republicans want to be reelected and they are going to have a more difficult time if their fearless leader and his sycophants keep appearing to be batshit crazy.


You mean like paying people to pummel and pepper spray women and beat old people, rioting and committing arson at opposition rallies, demonstrating outside of politicians' homes, stalking opposition politician's family members, even mothers with babies and ambushing them with screams of wild accusations and threats?

Wait, you alt left psychopaths doing that

Yeah, why are nutsuckers doing that, in order to pimp pedophiles as nutsucker family values?

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/20/2017 12:33:08 PM   
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No compass

A couple more olden goldies, from a time when hypocritical old "Polite" routinely became indignant at the suggestion of government eavesdropping

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2781115

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4086940

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4502091

While the Wikileaks revelation about drastically increased CIA eavesdropping under Obama, means nothing to him.



Hi Fuckwit, I see you are deflecting again. The posts of mine you quoted are not the same thing as the claim Trump has made.

I know that wont worry you, what with your fake name, fake news and fake brain.

As for my having "no compass" not only are you unable to tell North from South, nor East from West but arse from elbow

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/20/2017 12:37:12 PM   
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No compass

A couple more olden goldies, from a time when hypocritical old "Polite" routinely became indignant at the suggestion of government eavesdropping

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2781115

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4086940

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4502091

While the Wikileaks revelation about drastically increased CIA eavesdropping under Obama, means nothing to him.



Hi Fuckwit, I see you are deflecting again. The posts of mine you quoted are not the same thing as the claim Trump has made.

I know that wont worry you, what with your fake name, fake news and fake brain.

As for my having "no compass" not only are you unable to tell North from South, nor East from West but arse from elbow



I didn't write that they are the same, idiot. That wasn't what I was referencing

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RE: Trump wiretap claims - 3/20/2017 12:54:22 PM   
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When I sold sex toys, I was going to "road test" a we vibe, but it just didnt do anything for me, so I dumped it, but that was before the app came along.



Damn it Lucy........ Now I have an image of you road teststing a vibe round and round the M25.

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