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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 11:10:59 AM   
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The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful.
The world has never been more interconnected with such speed of communications. The UN provides a place to pause and air grievances.
It is helpful to remember that any UN action can be stopped by the vote of only one of five major contributor nations. However, here is a list of forty-eight UN accomplishments published in 2012.

Please cite credible proof that the UN has prevented a "third major power war."

What sort of credible proof would you require to prove a negative?
Twenty years elapsed between WW1 and WW2. Seventy-two years have passed since the last major powers war. Pretty good so far, hey?
So, can you prove that the forum of the United Nations was not instrumental in maintaining the peace?


LMAO! In other words, no, you can't support your assertion with any proof.

Thanks, Vincent.

FFS, it could almost be said that the increase in global CO2 that started around that time prevented a third world war.


The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?

Did I miss the mission statement of the increase in global CO2 emission? Was that a coordinated activity intent on stopping WW3? Is there even a scintilla of causal relationship between greenhouse gas emission and World War?

The proof is in the pudding. There has been no major powers war since the UN was formed.

greenhouse gases . . .

Well that proves it. There's been no alien invasion from outer space either. So, good on the UN

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 11:13:37 AM   
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Vietnam has been classed as a proxy war.

It also looks like the Middle East/North Africa issues are becoming a major powers war. What is the definition of a World War? 2 continents and 20 countries, also death tolls that make the "man in the street" notice. We are just about there.


Vietnam was classified as a proxy war only by the domino theory pro war propagandists who lied to the American people. To the Vietnamese it was a war of independence first from French colonialism and then from Eisenhower betrayal.

The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Historically, world wars have involved nations from every continent except Antarctica.


So, are we going to start counting the Napoleonic War and the Seven years War?

Then there is the Cold War (an estimate of 20-30 mil casualties)

As far as Bush's Global War on Terror, shouldn't you be blaming Reagan's War against Terrorism? Of course both were created by attacks against US citizens. Or to go back even further, you could blame Jefferson for the First Barbary War. Of course that was because of attacks on US citizens as well.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:18:55 PM   
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Vietnam has been classed as a proxy war.

It also looks like the Middle East/North Africa issues are becoming a major powers war. What is the definition of a World War? 2 continents and 20 countries, also death tolls that make the "man in the street" notice. We are just about there.


Vietnam was classified as a proxy war only by the domino theory pro war propagandists who lied to the American people. To the Vietnamese it was a war of independence first from French colonialism and then from Eisenhower betrayal.

The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Historically, world wars have involved nations from every continent except Antarctica.


So, are we going to start counting the Napoleonic War and the Seven years War?

Then there is the Cold War (an estimate of 20-30 mil casualties)

As far as Bush's Global War on Terror, shouldn't you be blaming Reagan's War against Terrorism? Of course both were created by attacks against US citizens. Or to go back even further, you could blame Jefferson for the First Barbary War. Of course that was because of attacks on US citizens as well.

Maybe I was unclear above. There were two world wars. In each, nations from every continent participated and/or issued a declaration of war.

I fail to see how Bush or Reagan's activities meet the definition of a world war. Nor Jefferson's. Perhaps you can be more explicit. And while you are at it, where did you get the figure of such high casualties from the cold war?

As far as I know the Napoleonic wars and the Seven Years War did not involve Asian nations.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:20:45 PM   
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The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful.
The world has never been more interconnected with such speed of communications. The UN provides a place to pause and air grievances.
It is helpful to remember that any UN action can be stopped by the vote of only one of five major contributor nations. However, here is a list of forty-eight UN accomplishments published in 2012.

Please cite credible proof that the UN has prevented a "third major power war."

What sort of credible proof would you require to prove a negative?
Twenty years elapsed between WW1 and WW2. Seventy-two years have passed since the last major powers war. Pretty good so far, hey?
So, can you prove that the forum of the United Nations was not instrumental in maintaining the peace?


LMAO! In other words, no, you can't support your assertion with any proof.

Thanks, Vincent.

FFS, it could almost be said that the increase in global CO2 that started around that time prevented a third world war.


The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?

Did I miss the mission statement of the increase in global CO2 emission? Was that a coordinated activity intent on stopping WW3? Is there even a scintilla of causal relationship between greenhouse gas emission and World War?

The proof is in the pudding. There has been no major powers war since the UN was formed.

greenhouse gases . . .

Well that proves it. There's been no alien invasion from outer space either. So, good on the UN

You used to contribute meaningful comments to our discussions. Not so much now that you are using crayons.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:22:55 PM   
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You mean the human rights council with countries that stone women for adultery, throw gays from buildings, and slice your fingers to chutney for reading a bible, and have sex with goats? How much has our influence in the council improved things for human rights in THOSE places?

Right. And now who is it who wishes to withdraw? A nation where unarmed black men are shot in the back by law enforcement, a nation that has the highest per capita rate of incarceration, a nation that allows the rape and murder of gay men and transgendered people, a nation that maintains a quasi apartheid system, and a nation that has supported the world's most brutal tyrants. Pot calling the kettle black.


No wonder you've gone communist, believing that propaganda spew as you do

Did I write anything that is wrong? I think not.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:25:25 PM   
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You mean the human rights council with countries that stone women for adultery, throw gays from buildings, and slice your fingers to chutney for reading a bible, and have sex with goats? How much has our influence in the council improved things for human rights in THOSE places?

Right. And now who is it who wishes to withdraw? A nation where unarmed black men are shot in the back by law enforcement, a nation that has the highest per capita rate of incarceration, a nation that allows the rape and murder of gay men and transgendered people, a nation that maintains a quasi apartheid system, and a nation that has supported the world's most brutal tyrants. Pot calling the kettle black.

LOL.its it's not CODIFIED in law, like Muslim countries! How backwards is that?

Inhumanity is inhumanity whether codified or not; all the more insidious when permitted by officialdom in contradiction to the Rule of Law.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:27:20 PM   
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The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?


Superior American firepower did that. Along with a unified patriotic America, that stood solidly against communism

Which that heritage is the reason leftists such as yourself hate America so much today

You always seem to resort to personal slander when you have a weak argument. I suppose that is the best you can do. If you read the history of the war you will learn what a cluster fuck was done by MacArthur and his generals.


Statement of fact, "slander" - it's all the same.

No, it is your juvenile style of discourse. One would think you were still in the tenth grade at school.


Your point was about personal attacks, right



It seems to be all you understand.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 1:30:52 PM   
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It seems to be all you understand.


Massive hypocrite much, tool?

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 2:27:45 PM   
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It seems to be all you understand.


Massive hypocrite much, tool?

I will happily refrain if you will as well.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 2:31:26 PM   
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It seems to be all you understand.


Massive hypocrite much, tool?

I will happily refrain if you will as well.


Stop being such an obvious communist 24/7 and I won't state the obvious, sure. No problem

Why do you deny it, while spewing the mantra? Take a hint from comrade Sanders and just fucking well own it

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 2:47:13 PM   
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It seems to be all you understand.


Massive hypocrite much, tool?

I will happily refrain if you will as well.


Stop being such an obvious communist 24/7 and I won't state the obvious, sure. No problem

Why do you deny it, while spewing the mantra? Take a hint from comrade Sanders and just fucking well own it

So, I cannot criticize the policies of my country without being called unpatriotic and a communist? Ohhhh . . . that is so 1950s, Sen. McCarthy. And you think what? This is a free country? We are free to express our opinions without fear of recrimination or assault from right wing bully boys? Doesn't look that way.

And so fucking lame. But then I shouldn't be surprised to find you stuck back in the 20th Century. Especially when you have nothing of substance to present to the debate except vacuous name calling.


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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 4:40:50 PM   
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The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful.
The world has never been more interconnected with such speed of communications. The UN provides a place to pause and air grievances.
It is helpful to remember that any UN action can be stopped by the vote of only one of five major contributor nations. However, here is a list of forty-eight UN accomplishments published in 2012.

Please cite credible proof that the UN has prevented a "third major power war."

What sort of credible proof would you require to prove a negative?
Twenty years elapsed between WW1 and WW2. Seventy-two years have passed since the last major powers war. Pretty good so far, hey?
So, can you prove that the forum of the United Nations was not instrumental in maintaining the peace?


LMAO! In other words, no, you can't support your assertion with any proof.

Thanks, Vincent.

FFS, it could almost be said that the increase in global CO2 that started around that time prevented a third world war.


The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?

Did I miss the mission statement of the increase in global CO2 emission? Was that a coordinated activity intent on stopping WW3? Is there even a scintilla of causal relationship between greenhyouse gas emission and World War?

The proof is in the pudding. There has been no major powers war since the UN was formed.

greenhouse gases . . .

Well that proves it. There's been no alien invasion from outer space either. So, good on the UN

You used to contribute meaningful comments to our discussions. Not so much now that you are using crayons.

I still contribute meaningful comments. Showing everyone the absurdity of someone else's comment is meaningful. However, in the spirit to which you meant your comment, let me just say that I treat people as they treat me. So, I wonder why your comment of this type is solely directed at me. Perhaps you'll reign in some of your comrades and I can get back to being civil?

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/20/2017 8:08:16 PM   
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Vietnam has been classed as a proxy war.

It also looks like the Middle East/North Africa issues are becoming a major powers war. What is the definition of a World War? 2 continents and 20 countries, also death tolls that make the "man in the street" notice. We are just about there.


Vietnam was classified as a proxy war only by the domino theory pro war propagandists who lied to the American people. To the Vietnamese it was a war of independence first from French colonialism and then from Eisenhower betrayal.

The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Historically, world wars have involved nations from every continent except Antarctica.


So, are we going to start counting the Napoleonic War and the Seven years War?

Then there is the Cold War (an estimate of 20-30 mil casualties)

As far as Bush's Global War on Terror, shouldn't you be blaming Reagan's War against Terrorism? Of course both were created by attacks against US citizens. Or to go back even further, you could blame Jefferson for the First Barbary War. Of course that was because of attacks on US citizens as well.

Maybe I was unclear above. There were two world wars. In each, nations from every continent participated and/or issued a declaration of war.

I fail to see how Bush or Reagan's activities meet the definition of a world war. Nor Jefferson's. Perhaps you can be more explicit. And while you are at it, where did you get the figure of such high casualties from the cold war?

As far as I know the Napoleonic wars and the Seven Years War did not involve Asian nations.


I was going off of your "Bush's Christian Crusade" idea and taking it farther back, since that has been going on for over 200 years.


Napoleonic Wars before outset of the war (early 1800s). Great Britain, Prussia, Austria, Russia, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Ottoman Empire. France, French client states in Europe, Denmark-Norway, and the United States. New South Wales, British claimed territory; Fezzan, Ottoman vassal; and the eastern "Barbary States" of Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli nominally Ottoman governed.

And you are right that the Seven year's war really did not affect Australia, although it did have Europe, North America, South America, Africa, and Asia.

I think that you are forgetting about all the colonies that countries had.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 12:23:41 AM   
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The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Good grief, a "Christian crusade"????

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 4:42:57 AM   
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The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Good grief, a "Christian crusade"????

K.




Literally communist propaganda.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 5:54:20 AM   
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The UN was created in 1945 for one main purpose: to stop a third major power war. So far, it and the potential nuclear Armageddon have been successful.
The world has never been more interconnected with such speed of communications. The UN provides a place to pause and air grievances.
It is helpful to remember that any UN action can be stopped by the vote of only one of five major contributor nations. However, here is a list of forty-eight UN accomplishments published in 2012.

Please cite credible proof that the UN has prevented a "third major power war."

What sort of credible proof would you require to prove a negative?
Twenty years elapsed between WW1 and WW2. Seventy-two years have passed since the last major powers war. Pretty good so far, hey?
So, can you prove that the forum of the United Nations was not instrumental in maintaining the peace?


LMAO! In other words, no, you can't support your assertion with any proof.

Thanks, Vincent.

FFS, it could almost be said that the increase in global CO2 that started around that time prevented a third world war.


The UN intervention in Korea in 1950 stopped a major powers war. How did it not?

Did I miss the mission statement of the increase in global CO2 emission? Was that a coordinated activity intent on stopping WW3? Is there even a scintilla of causal relationship between greenhyouse gas emission and World War?

The proof is in the pudding. There has been no major powers war since the UN was formed.

greenhouse gases . . .

Well that proves it. There's been no alien invasion from outer space either. So, good on the UN

You used to contribute meaningful comments to our discussions. Not so much now that you are using crayons.

I still contribute meaningful comments. Showing everyone the absurdity of someone else's comment is meaningful. However, in the spirit to which you meant your comment, let me just say that I treat people as they treat me. So, I wonder why your comment of this type is solely directed at me. Perhaps you'll reign in some of your comrades and I can get back to being civil?

The UN was established in the hopes of preventing WW3. That is serious business. Your reference to space invaders was as irrelevant as the previous reference to CO2. Would have been fine if we were at a Comicon. Granted that sometimes it seems that we are.


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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 6:38:55 AM   
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Vietnam has been classed as a proxy war.

It also looks like the Middle East/North Africa issues are becoming a major powers war. What is the definition of a World War? 2 continents and 20 countries, also death tolls that make the "man in the street" notice. We are just about there.


Vietnam was classified as a proxy war only by the domino theory pro war propagandists who lied to the American people. To the Vietnamese it was a war of independence first from French colonialism and then from Eisenhower betrayal.

The Middle East will always be George W Bush's monstrous, genocidal Christian crusade.

Historically, world wars have involved nations from every continent except Antarctica.


So, are we going to start counting the Napoleonic War and the Seven years War?

Then there is the Cold War (an estimate of 20-30 mil casualties)

As far as Bush's Global War on Terror, shouldn't you be blaming Reagan's War against Terrorism? Of course both were created by attacks against US citizens. Or to go back even further, you could blame Jefferson for the First Barbary War. Of course that was because of attacks on US citizens as well.

Maybe I was unclear above. There were two world wars. In each, nations from every continent participated and/or issued a declaration of war.

I fail to see how Bush or Reagan's activities meet the definition of a world war. Nor Jefferson's. Perhaps you can be more explicit. And while you are at it, where did you get the figure of such high casualties from the cold war?

As far as I know the Napoleonic wars and the Seven Years War did not involve Asian nations.


I was going off of your "Bush's Christian Crusade" idea and taking it farther back, since that has been going on for over 200 years.


Napoleonic Wars before outset of the war (early 1800s). Great Britain, Prussia, Austria, Russia, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Ottoman Empire. France, French client states in Europe, Denmark-Norway, and the United States. New South Wales, British claimed territory; Fezzan, Ottoman vassal; and the eastern "Barbary States" of Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli nominally Ottoman governed.

And you are right that the Seven year's war really did not affect Australia, although it did have Europe, North America, South America, Africa, and Asia.

I think that you are forgetting about all the colonies that countries had.

The British employed troops from India and Africa During WWl. Brazilians were directly involved in both major wars of the 20th Century. Several South American nations declared war against Hitler. Defining World Wars requires more than the fact that colonies existed. I don't see how the Napoleonic Wars qualify as World wars.

Middle Eastern Muslims have a reaction to "crusade" similar to our reaction against "jihad." Bush used the term several times. He also referred to Evil and the Axis of Evil . . . more biblical rhetoric from his bible group. A number of people on this message board rant against Islam in the tone of crusade. The War on Terrorism is nothing less than a Christian Crusade, imo.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 7:45:24 AM   
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Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."

http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.

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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 8:42:15 AM   
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Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."

http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.


They take credit for everything, not all of it is dependant on them and it's the United States paying for most everything they do. The "peacekeepers" have been committing rape, which was subsequently covered up by the crooked UN leadership, and there have been crimes committed by UN leaders themselves.

Aggressor countries such as Saddam's Iraq only sign peace accords when they are beaten militarily, and the UN has been useless to bring aggressors to the table . So they facilitate signing documents? Anyone can do that. Other organizations can do immunizations and everything else, probably better and cheaper.

Look at the USSR's massive human rights violations, North Korea's, Cuba's, and so on. What have they done to stop the spread of Islam?

The UN is useless





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RE: US threatens exit from UN Human Rights Counsel - 3/21/2017 9:14:16 AM   
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Here's the top 5 items on the list of UN achievements VincentML cited:

"1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.
2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts
3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections
4. Development – The system’s annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.
5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries."

http://humanism.ws/un/united-nations-accomplishmnets/

For me any one of those 5 reasons is sufficient to justify the UN's existence. In its 70 odd years of existence, the UN has been directly responsible for the survival of hundreds of millions of lives endangered by the perils of war and disease. It is astonishing that people question its contribution or raison d'etre.

The UN has made an unparalleled contribution to human development safety security and world peace.


With little to absolutely no benefit to the United States at all.

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