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vincentML -> Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/15/2017 4:39:26 PM)
if the AHCA is enacted. The ceiling on insurance premiums to which >50s are exposed will jump from 3x charged to younger workers under Ocare to 5x. You are prone to be more in need of healthcare but you are too young for Medicare. If you or a parent needs Medicaid assistance for a nursing home you will be at the mercy of your state government, who will receive a block grant under AHCA. Ocare provides funds directly for Medicaid recipients. Companies with 50 or more employees will no longer have to provide health insurance for their employees. Trust your management? Appeal to your Union? Oh, wait. You hate unions. You don’t have one anyway. Too bad. Forget early retirement. If you get downsized and can’t find another job, you will need to seek health insurance at free market prices until age 65. SOURCE Maybe the Republicans will not be able to pass the AHCA. Thoughts . . .

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/15/2017 5:03:32 PM)
They won't be able to pass it. No worries.

heavyblinker -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 5:13:51 AM)
I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it.

Kirata -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 7:45:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K.

THEwhoremonger -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 8:02:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Oops

WhoreMods -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 11:15:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Why should the GOP get to monopolise that approach?

heavyblinker -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 12:39:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: THEwhoremonger quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Oops I was obviously being so so serious so I guess the answer is yes. You totally got me.

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 12:42:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: THEwhoremonger quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Oops I was obviously being so so serious so I guess the answer is yes. You totally got me. So are you saying that when you say, "I honestly.." you were being dishonest?

Musicmystery -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 1:28:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Frankly, isn't that the Trump/Ryan/McConnell approach, basically?

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 1:31:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Frankly, isn't that the Trump/Ryan/McConnell approach, basically? Well according to some, Obamacare was going to hurt alot of people too. I guess it just depends on whom you want to hurt.

vincentML -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:06:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Frankly, isn't that the Trump/Ryan/McConnell approach, basically? Well according to some, Obamacare was going to hurt alot of people too. I guess it just depends on whom you want to hurt. According to some O-care needed to be fixed to help those being hurt. Wasn't that the mantra on the Right? Why do we have to choose among the victims?

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:10:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I honestly wish they would pass it. It would punish Trump voters for their ignorance, his base would die off, and the GOP would be blamed for it. So basically, you don't care how many people it hurts as long as it leads to the outcome you want. K. Frankly, isn't that the Trump/Ryan/McConnell approach, basically? Well according to some, Obamacare was going to hurt alot of people too. I guess it just depends on whom you want to hurt. According to some O-care needed to be fixed to help those being hurt. Wasn't that the mantra on the Right? Why do we have to choose among the victims? Because we can't afford to make it work well for everyone?

mnottertail -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:29:02 PM)
Why not, so many other countries have.

Musicmystery -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:32:10 PM)
We're 5% of the global population, yet 24% of global GDP. Yeah, I think we could swing it.

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:32:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Why not, so many other countries have. Because they don't spend so much on other things like we do... most likely.

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:33:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Why not, so many other countries have. Because they don't spend so much on other things like we do... most likely. Personally i wish someone would just give me the budget and i could probably fix the whole thing in a month.

ThundersCry2U -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:34:53 PM)
Doesn`t take a mental midget to know that...esp, if your the one over 50. I do hope at some point in time Health Care changes in the US. I`m not banking on much of a change...It appears everyone is close to a medical bankruptcy...just have something major go wrong. I`ve watched people die because THEY could not afford the premiums of the AHC..so instead of sucking it up and going to a Dr...They let their children bury them. Were they foolish?...yep.

tamaka -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:34:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery We're 5% of the global population, yet 24% of global GDP. Yeah, I think we could swing it. How does China handle healthcare? Do you know?

AtUrCervix -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:35:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML if the AHCA is enacted. The ceiling on insurance premiums to which >50s are exposed will jump from 3x charged to younger workers under Ocare to 5x. You are prone to be more in need of healthcare but you are too young for Medicare. If you or a parent needs Medicaid assistance for a nursing home you will be at the mercy of your state government, who will receive a block grant under AHCA. Ocare provides funds directly for Medicaid recipients. Companies with 50 or more employees will no longer have to provide health insurance for their employees. Trust your management? Appeal to your Union? Oh, wait. You hate unions. You don’t have one anyway. Too bad. Forget early retirement. If you get downsized and can’t find another job, you will need to seek health insurance at free market prices until age 65. SOURCE Maybe the Republicans will not be able to pass the AHCA. Thoughts . . . Statistics never lie.....(Statisticians.....ALWAYS do). DUDE!!!! "The ceiling on insurance premiums to which >50s are exposed will jump from 3x charged to younger workers under Ocare to 5x" Are you aware that the cost to insure kids is....waaaaay the fuck lower and....that the Republican program has lowered (young folks) premiums by a SIGNIFICANT number....ergo....5X will be equivalent to (possibly lower) than 3X on the ACA? READ the LEGISLATION.....quit buying what they're selling. Basically....get informed. BE informed.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Older than 50? You're so screwed! (3/16/2017 2:38:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka They won't be able to pass it. No worries. They will pass it but...before it's passed...it'll be altered....to include your comments/wishes/mine....and others....it won't be perfect....just better. "THIS" (the current proposal) is nothing more than a starting point. Ver. 1. There's another 12 versions before it goes to vote. (Anyone that doesn't "get" that....ain't been reading the funny papers very long).

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