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vincentML -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 12:15:34 PM)
quote: Which countries has n. korea attacked ever? Why won't s. korea allow popular elections to reunify the country? Tommy, I'm sure you know that the South was attacked by NK in 1950. Heck, you may even have been called up at that time for all I know. This from Wiki . . . . The division of Korea between North and South Korea was the result of the Allied victory in World War II in 1945, ending the Empire of Japan's 35-year rule of Korea. The United States and the Soviet Union occupied the country, with the boundary between their zones of control along the 38th parallel. With the onset of the Cold War, negotiations between the United States and the Soviet Union failed to lead to an independent, unified Korea. In 1948, UN-supervised elections were held in the US-occupied south only. This led to the establishment of the Republic of Korea in South Korea, which was promptly followed by the establishment of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in North Korea. The United States supported the South, and the Soviet Union supported the North, and each government claimed sovereignty over the whole Korean peninsula. The Korean War (1950–1953) left the two Koreas separated by the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) in the later part of the Cold War and beyond. Just sayin . . .

WhoreMods -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 12:45:07 PM)
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MrRodgers -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 7:34:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I would love to see the unification of Korea. I don't know why China is supporting North Korea. But it's about time, some forceful aggressive action to be taken to free North Koreans from that stupid dictatorship. Socialists love socialists. The insane love the insane. Actually the question would be more accurately put as to why China, whose govt. is the richest of Asia's state fascist capitalists, skimming off of its discount, virtual slave labor, supports N. Korea's fascist theocratic hero-worship, society, starving on its own lack of any redeeming value at all ? So it's much more accurate to say that fascist state capitalists love other fascists even though they aren't socialists or capitalists. I think Wash., may threaten but talk this one out. No oil or profit in an Asian war. For Iran however, that's where I am placing my bets. Lots of oil and lots of profit. And yes, the western bankers/investors will lend us the money as rates trickle up and let's face it...bloody yes (and rest assured it won't be their blood) but a good bet nonetheless.

thompsonx -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 7:54:20 PM)
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BoscoX -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 7:56:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I would love to see the unification of Korea. I don't know why China is supporting North Korea. But it's about time, some forceful aggressive action to be taken to free North Koreans from that stupid dictatorship. Socialists love socialists. The insane love the insane. Actually the question would be more accurately put as to why China, whose govt. is the richest of Asia's state fascist capitalists, skimming off of its discount, virtual slave labor, supports N. Korea's fascist theocratic hero-worship, society, starving on its own lack of any redeeming value at all ? So it's much more accurate to say that fascist state capitalists love other fascists even though they aren't socialists or capitalists. I think Wash., may threaten but talk this one out. No oil or profit in an Asian war. For Iran however, that's where I am placing my bets. Lots of oil and lots of profit. And yes, the western bankers/investors will lend us the money as rates trickle up and let's face it...bloody yes (and rest assured it won't be their blood) but a good bet nonetheless. Capitalism is freedom. There is nothing about China that is free. Chinese Dear Leaders are hardline racist communists, and at some point Dear Leader realized that socialism is a dead end road so they literally stole ideas from capitalists and employed them in their socialist slave state Because socialist Dear Leaders do literally anything they want, as there is no freedom under a socialist system that has gone full socialist, the situation you see in China is an end result of socialist ideology

thompsonx -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/17/2017 8:47:33 PM)
ORIGINAL: vincentML Which countries has n. korea attacked ever? Why won't s. korea allow popular elections to reunify the country? Tommy, I'm sure you know that the South was attacked by NK in 1950. Heck, you may even have been called up at that time for all I know. I was in the first grade in 1950. My uncle, on the other hand, made the inchon landing and was one of the 'chosin few' (1/1 'chesty's posssie') who made it off that rock with all of his fingers and most of his toes. This from Wiki . . . . The division of Korea between North and South Korea was the result of the Allied victory in World War II in 1945, ending the Empire of Japan's 35-year rule of Korea. The United States and the Soviet Union occupied the country, with the boundary between their zones of control along the 38th parallel. With the onset of the Cold War, negotiations between the United States and the Soviet Union failed to lead to an independent, unified Korea. In 1948, UN-supervised elections were held in the US-occupied south only. This led to the establishment of the Republic of Korea in South Korea, which was promptly followed by the establishment of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in North Korea. The United States supported the South, and the Soviet Union supported the North, and each government claimed sovereignty over the whole Korean peninsula. The Korean War (1950–1953) left the two Koreas separated by the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) in the later part of the Cold War and beyond. Just sayin . . . Did the union attack a soverign nation in the civil war in amerika? Likewise n. korea ,who had been denied any participation in the 'election of reunification,' seems to have been in a similar position. Similar situation in viet nam. Do you honestly believe that n. korea attacked a soverign nation or was it seeking to reunify their country that had been arbitrarily divided by forces not endemic to korea?

vincentML -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/18/2017 6:53:41 AM)
quote: Did the union attack a soverign nation in the civil war in amerika? No, the Union was attacked at Ft. Sumter and responded at First Bull Run . . badly. A sovereign nation? No, a dozen states in rebellious secession. There was no vote for reconciliation in Korea thanks to the Soviets. I don't know what the NK had in mind in 1950. It remains an historical puzzle. And so does the reason for their continuing provocations. They are a rogue nation who are very likely to cause a war in Asia.

thompsonx -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/18/2017 6:20:48 PM)
ORIGINAL: BoscoX Capitalism is freedom. Cite please There is nothing about China that is free. Tell us of your last visit to china. Chinese Dear Leaders are hardline racist communists, Cite please and at some point Dear Leader realized that socialism is a dead end road A list of 'socialist' economies has been posted to disabuse you of your ignorance. Why do you persist in this fatuous rant?

thompsonx -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/18/2017 6:40:12 PM)
ORIGINAL: vincentML Did the union attack a soverign nation in the civil war in amerika? No, the Union was attacked at Ft. Sumter and responded at First Bull Run . . badly. A sovereign nation? No, a dozen states in rebellious secession. An successful effort at reunification There was no vote for reconciliation in Korea thanks to the Soviets. Who in amerika would accept an election with chinese soldiers patroling the streets and the u.n. watching the polls? I don't know what the NK had in mind in 1950. It remains an historical puzzle. And so does the reason for their continuing provocations. 'Continuing provocations' wasn't that one of the refrains of george #3 re: the founders? They are a rogue nation who are very likely to cause a war in Asia. What would amerika do if china and mexico were to hold joint military/naval exercises off the coast of los angeles? Or cuba and russia holding joint military/naval exercises off the coast of miami? How much of a wad did amerika get it's collective undies in over russia putting icbms in cuba? "Rogue nation" sounds pretty odious...how would you describe that particular alcolade? The question still stands as to which soverign nations has n.korea invaded? Why were the amerikans north of the 38th parallel if the purpose of the engagement was to "rescue" s. korea from the north? If the chinese had not interviened would amerika have unified korea with it's puppet s. korea being the 'boss'?

MrRodgers -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/19/2017 2:21:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I would love to see the unification of Korea. I don't know why China is supporting North Korea. But it's about time, some forceful aggressive action to be taken to free North Koreans from that stupid dictatorship. Socialists love socialists. The insane love the insane. Actually the question would be more accurately put as to why China, whose govt. is the richest of Asia's state fascist capitalists, skimming off of its discount, virtual slave labor, supports N. Korea's fascist theocratic hero-worship, society, starving on its own lack of any redeeming value at all ? So it's much more accurate to say that fascist state capitalists love other fascists even though they aren't socialists or capitalists. I think Wash., may threaten but talk this one out. No oil or profit in an Asian war. For Iran however, that's where I am placing my bets. Lots of oil and lots of profit. And yes, the western bankers/investors will lend us the money as rates trickle up and let's face it...bloody yes (and rest assured it won't be their blood) but a good bet nonetheless. Capitalism is freedom. There is nothing about China that is free. Chinese Dear Leaders are hardline racist communists, and at some point Dear Leader realized that socialism is a dead end road so they literally stole ideas from capitalists and employed them in their socialist slave state Because socialist Dear Leaders do literally anything they want, as there is no freedom under a socialist system that has gone full socialist, the situation you see in China is an end result of socialist ideology China was communist system which is not socialist. Under communism all property is owned by the state and the people are politically and economically (their labor) owned by the state. Capitalism is a market based economy where the market can be and in China...is also owned by the state...i. e., state capitalism as the US has shown itself also a state capitalism when govt. chooses to prop up private corruption and property and when bankers defraud, leverage and steal only to have the people, the taxpayers at large, forced to bail them out twice now. (RTC and TARP) Plus the private profit/public risk regime in govt. insurance. Thus capitalism does no more guarantee freedom other then the protection of private property and even then not in all cases. China and Nazi Germany which became a fascist capitalist system (Italy too) has nothing to do with political freedom or freedom of movement. The economies as in the US, are not free and are not free market except for those markets with no political power. Small markets are allowed to fail, big markets...are not. The state in both countries regulate the the very existence of markets, centralized banking and the supply of capital, do not regulate banks except in the interest of the state and private bankers, and allow profiteering by those too big to fail which if were not protected by state capitalism, would be...to big to exist. On the large state dependent matters, there is right now, scant difference in the govt.'s relationship to business and the economies between China and the US.

Edwird -> RE: The Coming War in Asia? (3/19/2017 3:58:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Capitalism is freedom. Pinochet, Franco, Hirohito, and others might have another take on that. You are even more clueless about capitalism than you are about socialism, no surprise here.

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