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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 8:01:26 AM   
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This is one reason people come to these forums. To find friends with compatible interests and points of view.

Coming on from pov of self-serving desperation is the biggest unlisted hard limit of all.

Your attitude makes you a hard limit RM-and you do it to yourself.

And the fellow who keeps judging me for not posting pictures-bugger off. I'll do it when I feel like it-not on demand.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 8:34:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal


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Trust me, no one is white knighting for us. Noir Metal is simply telling you the truth, something you wouldn't understand since you're so caught up in your own little bubble.

fap fap fap fap fap.....................misandry!!!!!!!!


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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 8:37:56 AM   
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The plain fact is that women have faults too and they aren't perfect princesses. When men call out on these faults, people lose their shit and make out the said man is the devil.

you demanding respect for your trolling isnt going to work.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 10:22:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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The OP is a client.

With what I do for a living now, I interact a lot with the public. They aren't friends. I'm not grabbing a beer with them in social settings. If I quit my job today, I would never see most of them again.

It's the same thing.



Yep I know that. I just don't see how that is any better than the men who only want a fetish delivery system.

The reality is, compared to men seeking a fetish delivery system, it's treating someone way less humane when you take advantage of their desperation and only will have anything to do with them if they're throwing you 100 dollar bills.

Yet one is acceptable, pro dommes. The other is not. The one that's treating a person way less human gets accepted more over the other.



Respectman ... your logic and reasoning totally escape me. I have no idea what a job or profession has to do with a man desiring a fetish delivery system.

Frankly, the OP was asking about a Pro Domme with whom he developed feelings. It happens and he is best off finding another. Easy simple. Moreover I feel I can relate to the OP. Because in the past, that happened to me too. (Although one Pro took me as a personal for eight years, and the other said she would take me if she wan't married already.)

So that is similar to what the OP described. But it has niothing to do with Fetish Delivery.

That said, you describe yourself as a Dominant; your profile picture depicts a man in a car running over a woman.

I think you are a guy thinks he is hot stuff, cannot get a woman, and pacifies himself trying to argue with Dominant Women. No?






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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 2:46:40 PM   
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You can feel that way if you like. If the receiver of the email doesn't feel that it's ok, the email still isn't going to get answered. That's not a gender thing. It's an individual preference thing.


The receiver also misses out in an opportunity that could have been a winner if they didn't have a bug up their ass.

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I don't know if you keep missing this on purpose because you think it fits your agenda or not. Especially with the problems the site has had recently, hiding a person's profile would also mean missing the friendly exchanges that people want to have with forum participants through email. It shouldn't be a case of a person having to sacrifice those emails just to prevent the emails they don't want. You wouldn't suggest that people shut down their yahoo email just because they didn't want to receive/respond to spam, would you?


I don't know if you miss this on purpose or not but when your profile is hidden, that doesn't stop you from emailing others. When you do email others while hidden, they can email you back.

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You've banged on about this long enough, too. The only person who keeps saying that 99% of male subs are evil is you. What people did say on the thread that was linked elsewhere was that 99% of the cold messaging/first contact emails that people get were not from people the receivers saw as potential partners. Not because of your constant groaning about how Domme women see most men as not good enough, but because of very logical factors like location, age, marital status, and so on. Having kink X in common doesn't supersede those factors for most people.


A quick example where I remember the most.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_5008409/mpage_6/tm.htm

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I never said that I don't get any quality messages. I said that it's maybe one percent, which is one out of every hundred. My experience is very similar to that of most other women on these sites, whether Domme or sub. I have been here since last summer.


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She didn't say 99 percent but most...which is nearly as bad and which is the opinion for many others on here.

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Actually it is bullshit. It doesn't matter what you label yourself as, you'll get the same crap messages from ALL labeled men when you are a woman. I'm a switch, I have always stated that I am not looking, when I had my playmate it clearly stated I didn't play with others, I clearly state now that I don't want the messages, and yet I get them from Doms, subs, and slaves that are all the same crap that has been mentioned. It's just the theme that changes. Get on your knees, bitch ... Dom, or I'm a Dom, but I'd be your sub if you'd do XYZ to me. Hi Mistress, I love XYZ, I want, I want IIIIIIIIIIIIIII, ... sub. I'd let you nail my balls to the table, I'll suck your toes, I love high heels, will you walk on my back? ... slave. Even though I've also very specifically stated that even if I were to be looking, I wouldn't want ANY of them, because I'd want another switch, just like me. The shear fact is that many men see a FEMALE on these sites and instantly think with their dicks. All they see us as is the fetish delivery system, no matter who we are, or in most cases what we actually want. It's all about them. Then you get other men in here constantly bleating on about how bad women are. If they had to put up with the crap we do, they may just realise why.

You do get some really polite men, and I had a Dom mail me the other day just to say he hoped I enjoyed the forums, and that he thought I wore a collar well. These though are far and few between the rest of the dross. Again, I'm not looking, so I dread to think what the inboxes of those that are look like.


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I said that 99 percent of messages I get are crap, same as most other women. To be fair, maybe it's more like 98 percent.


I could pick out many more posts in different threads and posts that indicate most men or the vast majority of men being terrible people. But it would be too time consuming to dig them all up.

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Respectman ... your logic and reasoning totally escape me. I have no idea what a job or profession has to do with a man desiring a fetish delivery system.


I'm sorry that you're too dumb to notice the obvious which has been thoroughly explained. I will write this in crayon for you.

Both a pro domme and a male looking for a fetish deliver system are treating others less than human.

People excuse the pro dommes for doing so but not men looking for a fetish delivery system.

The reason why, pro dommes do it for money. My response, so what? Men do it for pleasure. How does doing it for money make it a justification over doing it for pleasure?

I know this is a random analogy. Anyway, using this same ridiculous so called logic, we can compare two people doing some type of ill to another...like walking up to somebody and punching them in the face. One person does it for money, the other does it for pleasure. So should we give the person who does it for money a pass simply because they are doing it for money? How is that any better than doing it for pleasure? See how that makes absolutely no sense but people try to make it seem that it does make sense when comparing pro dommes to men who want a fetish delivery system?

Both people are treating the other less than human and one gets excused because they are doing it for money.

My whole point is that both parties should be excused as they are just as entitled to be here compared to everyone else. My problem is that people are always sticking up and protecting pro dommes in these forums while totally slamming men who want a fetish deliver system and why? Because they aren't treating women as people, as human beings...the exact thing that pro dommes are doing.

It's either you're too dumb to understand or you'll be intellectually dishonest and make feeble excuses for the hypocrisy like many others have in here.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 3:58:18 PM   
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Simply sexist.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 4:45:36 PM   
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Simply sexist.

The guy is simply tedious let alone sexist.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 4:57:31 PM   
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People only seem to see or care about sexism when it's against women.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 6:31:11 PM   
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As women on a kink site we read many messages from misogynists talking down to and trying to intimidate women. We've come to judge them on several criteria, including but not limited to:

1. Creative use of metaphor
2. Correct grammar and punctuation
3. Impact
4. Narrative structure

Do these messages make us feel bad? Do they intimidate us? Do they make us feel like this site is such a toxic environment that we should delete our account? Is there any original thought here?

Those answers by the way, are no, no, no, and no.

Our suggestion to you is - really up your commitment to being an asshole. If you're going to be a pathetic dickhead that sits at his computer screen talking down to, and trying to intimidate women - BE THE BEST DICKHEAD YOU CAN BE. Don't settle for mediocrity, because so far you've reached the lowest bar set for the standard misogynist.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 6:42:30 PM   
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Advice in dealing with so called misogynists. Make a good argument and defeat their points. Something that you totally fail in doing. I get criticised for making personal attacks instead of debating but of course when it's the other way around, it's given a pass...as usual.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 6:44:36 PM   
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Advice in dealing with so called misogynists. Make a good argument and defeat their points. Something that you totally fail in doing. I get criticised for making personal attacks instead of debating but of course when it's the other way around, it's given a pass...as usual.

broken record is boring. time for ignore list.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 6:47:45 PM   
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If you're going to be a pathetic dickhead that sits at his computer screen talking down to, and trying to intimidate women


On a daily basis women sit here and do exactly that against men. It's claimed that most of us or all of us are terrible people who only want to use women. That's talking down to men. When men openly disagree with this, they face intimidation tactics.

Hardly anyone raises an eyebrow when this happens.

Jesus christ there's some stupid fucking hypocrites that hang here.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:03:45 PM   
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If you're going to be a pathetic dickhead that sits at his computer screen talking down to, and trying to intimidate women


On a daily basis women sit here and do exactly that against men. It's claimed that most of us or all of us are terrible people who only want to use women. That's talking down to men. When men openly disagree with this, they face intimidation tactics.

Hardly anyone raises an eyebrow when this happens.

Jesus christ there's some stupid fucking hypocrites that hang here.


Nah Nick, you dont actually intimidate anyone,except MAYBE that time you ran up to those muslim women and shouted "allah is a cunt" just to be a prick, and its YOU that is the object of the ire. You are not men
You are a male.
You are not all males, you are not most males, you are not even a large majority of males.
While there are any men who are sexist, to a degree,
No matter how many times you try to play it, you are at at the lowest level of the irrational misogynist scum.

There is a huge divide between being a sexist in thoughts (not a crime for any sex),or in any consentual relationship.
to your level of irrationality.

Your attempt to intimidate women here with your idiotic little boy insult threads is not something that can be blamed on "men"
Just you.
YOU
if you are intimidated, maybe you might want to ask why people are disagreeing with you so loudly.
oh no, thats another hit against your insecurities...need a blankie?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:07:47 PM   
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Lucy. This thread sort of reminded me of the end result of this kind of attitude.

Don't watch it if you don't want your childhood memories destroyed!


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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:11:22 PM   
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ you are so f^king boring!

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:14:24 PM   
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Nah Nick, you dont actually intimidate anyone


I don't try to intimidate anyone. I just simply point out unwanted truths that a lot of you hate. I'm here for my own amusement. I don't care if I intimidate you or not. My existence here is enough as it is to annoy you lot as that's clearly evident.

Plenty of you lot claim I'm irrational, illogical, wrong. I'm not the one who is a compulsive hypocrite that always seems to want a double standard at nearly every turn.

I'm the one asking for equal standards. You and the usual gang, the fanny firsters, always want special privileges for women.

The one who is wanting equality is on a higher moral standing ground than the ones that keep wanting double standards. Another unwanted truth.





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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:24:24 PM   
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LMFAO

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:32:24 PM   
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OK, rm. With the current state of the site, send five emails to forum posters with hidden profiles that you haven''t exchanged emails with before. Show me how many of these emails go through.


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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:33:17 PM   
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So tell me sue, how is it considered better to treat others less than human for money compared to treating others less than human for pleasure?

What's that? You have no argument? Just as I thought.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/25/2017 7:38:18 PM   
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OK, rm. With the current state of the site, send five emails to forum posters with hidden profiles that you haven''t exchanged emails with before. Show me how many of these emails go through.



Yep, I know, no one can initiate contact with you.

If you wine so much about unwanted emails you can either hide your profile or leave the site. Instead of fucking sitting here whinging about it again and again and expecting everyone else to go by your rules.

We all get emails from people who we don't want. Does that make me entitled to start complaining about fat women emailing me or would that be considered trolling and just not acceptable to complain about it?

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