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AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Putin's... - 3/22/2017 4:35:23 AM   
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**BREAKING-- Associated Press has learned former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort "secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin."

"Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government".

AP Exclusive: Manafort had plan to benefit Putin government

By JEFF HORWITZ and CHAD DAY
33 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests.

Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse. Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."

Manafort's plans were laid out in documents obtained by the AP that included strategy memoranda and records showing international wire transfers for millions of dollars. How much work Manafort performed under the contract was unclear.

The disclosure comes as Trump campaign advisers are the subject of an FBI probe and two congressional investigations. Investigators are reviewing whether the Trump campaign and its associates coordinated with Moscow to meddle in the 2016 campaign. Manafort has dismissed the investigations as politically motivated and misguided, and said he never worked for Russian interests. The documents obtained by AP show Manafort's ties to Russia were closer than previously revealed.

In a statement to the AP, Manafort confirmed that he worked for Deripaska in various countries but said the work was being unfairly cast as "inappropriate or nefarious" as part of a "smear campaign."

"I worked with Oleg Deripaska almost a decade ago representing him on business and personal matters in countries where he had investments," Manafort said. "My work for Mr. Deripaska did not involve representing Russian political interests."

Deripaska became one of Russia's wealthiest men under Putin, buying assets abroad in ways widely perceived to benefit the Kremlin's interests. U.S. diplomatic cables from 2006 described Deripaska as "among the 2-3 oligarchs Putin turns to on a regular basis" and "a more-or-less permanent fixture on Putin's trips abroad." In response to questions about Manafort's consulting firm, a spokesman for Deripaska in 2008 — at least three years after they began working together — said Deripaska had never hired the firm. Another Deripaska spokesman in Moscow last week declined to answer AP's questions.

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that Manafort had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party .

The newly obtained business records link Manafort more directly to Putin's interests in the region. According to those records and people with direct knowledge of Manafort's work for Deripaska, Manafort made plans to open an office in Moscow, and at least some of Manafort's work in Ukraine was directed by Deripaska, not local political interests there. The Moscow office never opened.

Manafort has been a leading focus of the U.S. intelligence investigation of Trump's associates and Russia, according to a U.S. official. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the investigation were confidential. Meanwhile, federal criminal prosecutors became interested in Manafort's activities years ago as part of a broad investigation to recover stolen Ukraine assets after the ouster of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych there in early 2014. No U.S. criminal charges have ever been filed in the case.

FBI Director James Comey, in confirming to Congress the federal intelligence investigation this week, declined to say whether Manafort was a target. Manafort's name was mentioned 28 times during the hearing of the House Intelligence Committee, mostly about his work in Ukraine. No one mentioned Deripaska.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday that Manafort "played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time" in the campaign, even though as Trump's presidential campaign chairman he led it during the crucial run-up to the Republican National Convention.

Manafort and his associates remain in Trump's orbit. Manafort told a colleague this year that he continues to speak with Trump by telephone. Manafort's former business partner in eastern Europe, Rick Gates, has been seen inside the White House on a number of occasions. Gates has since helped plan Trump's inauguration and now runs a nonprofit organization, America First Policies, to back the White House agenda.

Gates, whose name does not appear in the documents, told the AP that he joined Manafort's firm in 2006 and was aware Manafort had a relationship with Deripaska, but he was not aware of the work described in the memos. Gates said his work was focused on domestic U.S. lobbying and political consulting in Ukraine at the time. He said he stopped working for Manafort's firm in March 2016 when he joined Trump's presidential campaign.

Manafort told Deripaska in 2005 that he was pushing policies as part of his work in Ukraine "at the highest levels of the U.S. government — the White House, Capitol Hill and the State Department," according to the documents. He also said he had hired a "leading international law firm with close ties to President Bush to support our client's interests," but he did not identify the firm. Manafort also said he was employing unidentified legal experts for the effort at leading universities and think tanks, including Duke University, New York University and the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Manafort did not disclose details about the lobbying work to the Justice Department during the period the contract was in place.

Under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, people who lobby in the U.S. on behalf of foreign political leaders or political parties must provide detailed reports about their actions to the department. Willfully failing to register is a felony and can result in up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, though the government rarely files criminal charges.

Deripaska owns Basic Element Co., which employs 200,000 people worldwide in the agriculture, aviation, construction, energy, financial services, insurance and manufacturing industries, and he runs one of the world's largest aluminum companies. Forbes estimated his net worth at $5.2 billion. How much Deripaska paid Manafort in total is not clear, but people familiar with the relationship said money transfers to Manafort amounted to tens of millions of dollars and continued through at least 2009. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the secret payments publicly.

In strategy memos, Manafort proposed that Deripaska and Putin would benefit from lobbying Western governments, especially the U.S., to allow oligarchs to keep possession of formerly state-owned assets in Ukraine. He proposed building "long term relationships" with Western journalists and a variety of measures to improve recruitment, communications and financial planning by pro-Russian parties in the region.

Manafort proposed extending his existing work in eastern Europe to Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Georgia, where he pledged to bolster the legitimacy of governments friendly to Putin and undercut anti-Russian figures through political campaigns, nonprofit front groups and media operations.

For the $10 million contract, Manafort did not use his public-facing consulting firm, Davis Manafort. Instead, he used a company, LOAV Ltd., that he had registered in Delaware in 1992. He listed LOAV as having the same address of his lobbying and consulting firms in Alexandria, Virginia. In other records, LOAV's address was listed as Manafort's home, also in Alexandria. Manafort sold the home in July 2015 for $1.4 million. He now owns an apartment in Trump Tower in New York, as well as other properties in Florida and New York.

One strategy memo to Deripaska was written by Manafort and Rick Davis, his business partner at the time. In written responses to the AP, Davis said he did not know that his firm had proposed a plan to covertly promote the interests of the Russian government.

Davis said he believes Manafort used his name without his permission on the strategy memo. "My name was on every piece of stationery used by the company and in every memo prior to 2006. It does not mean I had anything to do with the memo described," Davis said. He took a leave of absence from the firm in late 2006 to work on John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign.

Manafort's work with Deripaska continued for years, though they had a falling out laid bare in 2014 in a Cayman Islands bankruptcy court. The billionaire gave Manafort nearly $19 million to invest in a Ukrainian TV company called Black Sea Cable, according to legal filings by Deripaska's representatives. It said that after taking the money, Manafort and his associates stopped responding to Deripaska's queries about how the funds had been used.

Early in the 2016 presidential campaign, Deripaska's representatives openly accused Manafort of fraud and pledged to recover the money from him. After Trump earned the nomination, Deripaska's representatives said they would no longer discuss the case.

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And so as the obvious becomes even more obvious, RWNJs like BoscoX will plug their ears and go 'lalalalalalala', 'fake news', 'Trump won' and '...but Hillary'.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 6:45:35 AM   
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As always with these far left "news" organizations - anonymous sources, unconfirmed documents, salacious allegations unsupported by the facts. And the fact that Trump told the unpaid volunteer "YOU'RE FIRED" as soon as his work for the "oligarch" was discovered, is buried in the article.

"Everybody keep panicking"

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How much work Manafort performed under the contract was unclear.

Manafort has dismissed the investigations as politically motivated and misguided, and said he never worked for Russian interests.

(Manafort) ...said the work was being unfairly cast as "inappropriate or nefarious" as part of a "smear campaign."

"My work for Mr. Deripaska did not involve representing Russian political interests."

In response to questions about Manafort's consulting firm, a spokesman for Deripaska in 2008 — at least three years after they began working together — said Deripaska had never hired the firm. Another Deripaska spokesman in Moscow last week declined to answer AP's questions.

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that Manafort had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party .

Manafort has been a leading focus of the U.S. intelligence investigation of Trump's associates and Russia, according to a U.S. official.The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the investigation were confidential. Meanwhile, federal criminal prosecutors became interested in Manafort's activities years ago as part of a broad investigation to recover stolen Ukraine assets after the ouster of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych there in early 2014. No U.S. criminal charges have ever been filed in the case.

White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday that Manafort "played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time" in the campaign, even though as Trump's presidential campaign chairman he led it during the crucial run-up to the Republican National Convention.

The AP, never friendly to the right, editorializes right there. Tries to push the false narrative that "March through August" is more than a limited amount of time

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How much Deripaska paid Manafort in total is not clear, but people familiar with the relationship said money transfers to Manafort amounted to tens of millions of dollars and continued through at least 2009. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the secret payments publicly.






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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 6:50:56 AM   
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I posted this back last year 5/7/2016, you can see for yourselves how well it went down.... manafort has been dodgy since he became the campaign manager

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4907041/mpage_1/key_Manafort/tm.htm#4907041

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This is from Buzzfeed from yesterday, Im sharing it simply as a liability issue, after all Hils is being accused of benghazi and the emailgate issues.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/manafort-russia?utm_term=.bf7VWvamnE#.bqA0wOlkbj

With Donald Trump on the brink of receiving classified security briefings from the Central Intelligence Agency, U.S. foreign policy figures of both parties are raising concerns about a close Trump aide’s ties to allies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump’s top adviser, Paul Manafort, has spent much of his recent career working for pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, and doing complex deals for an oligarch with close ties to Putin. And while a Democratic senator has already charged Trump is not responsible enough to receive secret information, Manafort’s deep relationships with top pro-Russian figures raise special concerns.

Manafort may be best known for managing the 2010 campaign of Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian politician whose ouster as president prompted a Russian invasion of the country. He has, according to court documents, managed tens of millions of dollars for Oleg Deripaska, an oligarch denied entry to the U.S. reportedly for ties to organized crime, but so close to Vladimir Putin that top Russian officials fought (unsuccessfully) to get him a visa.

Gary Schmitt, a former Reagan Administration official now at the American Enterprise Institute, said he believed Manafort’s ties merit extra scrutiny.
“If Trump is to be given access to sensitive intelligence, which can’t help but implicitly involve even more sensitive information about ‘sources and methods,’ then it’s imperative that any campaign staff who have had commercial ties with foreign governments and politicians not be given access as well until they have gone through a full, thorough background check — not the typical perfunctory review,” he said.

“Given his dubious foreign connections, it’s fair to assume that many in the intelligence and national security community would be extremely wary of him handling or receiving material at even the lowest level of classification,” said Adam Blickstein, a former aide to former Obama defense secretary Robert Gates.
Presidential nominees have been given access to classified briefings for decades, a tradition aimed at ensuring that they are prepared for the presidency, as well as that their campaign rhetoric not depart from secret realities.

Bradley Moss, a national security lawyer in Washington, D.C., said the process typically begins with the formal nomination, at the Republican National Convention, followed by a memorandum of understanding with the General Services Administration, a federal agency, that will offer him access to a “sanitized version of the president’s daily briefing.”

A staffer to Mitt Romney’s 2008 campaign said that both Romney and vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan received detailed briefings from members of the same CIA team that briefs Obama. The briefings were conducted at secure facilities in Washington and elsewhere.



I dont care who gets caught up in this, and who is fired...or charged wether its lefties or righties...up to and including obama
If there is evidence, and there is...then fuck em.
Im not even an american.

Repubs have downplayed the russian angle for over a year, and so have the dems. But Trump lies so freakin badly hes gonna regret his tweet.

Ps an interesting article from McClatchy http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I posted this back last year 5/7/2016, you can see for yourselves how well it went down.... manafort has been dodgy since he became the campaign manager

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4907041/mpage_1/key_Manafort/tm.htm#4907041

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This is from Buzzfeed from yesterday, Im sharing it simply as a liability issue, after all Hils is being accused of benghazi and the emailgate issues.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/manafort-russia?utm_term=.bf7VWvamnE#.bqA0wOlkbj

With Donald Trump on the brink of receiving classified security briefings from the Central Intelligence Agency, U.S. foreign policy figures of both parties are raising concerns about a close Trump aide’s ties to allies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump’s top adviser, Paul Manafort, has spent much of his recent career working for pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, and doing complex deals for an oligarch with close ties to Putin. And while a Democratic senator has already charged Trump is not responsible enough to receive secret information, Manafort’s deep relationships with top pro-Russian figures raise special concerns.

Manafort may be best known for managing the 2010 campaign of Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian politician whose ouster as president prompted a Russian invasion of the country. He has, according to court documents, managed tens of millions of dollars for Oleg Deripaska, an oligarch denied entry to the U.S. reportedly for ties to organized crime, but so close to Vladimir Putin that top Russian officials fought (unsuccessfully) to get him a visa.

Gary Schmitt, a former Reagan Administration official now at the American Enterprise Institute, said he believed Manafort’s ties merit extra scrutiny.
“If Trump is to be given access to sensitive intelligence, which can’t help but implicitly involve even more sensitive information about ‘sources and methods,’ then it’s imperative that any campaign staff who have had commercial ties with foreign governments and politicians not be given access as well until they have gone through a full, thorough background check — not the typical perfunctory review,” he said.

“Given his dubious foreign connections, it’s fair to assume that many in the intelligence and national security community would be extremely wary of him handling or receiving material at even the lowest level of classification,” said Adam Blickstein, a former aide to former Obama defense secretary Robert Gates.
Presidential nominees have been given access to classified briefings for decades, a tradition aimed at ensuring that they are prepared for the presidency, as well as that their campaign rhetoric not depart from secret realities.

Bradley Moss, a national security lawyer in Washington, D.C., said the process typically begins with the formal nomination, at the Republican National Convention, followed by a memorandum of understanding with the General Services Administration, a federal agency, that will offer him access to a “sanitized version of the president’s daily briefing.”

A staffer to Mitt Romney’s 2008 campaign said that both Romney and vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan received detailed briefings from members of the same CIA team that briefs Obama. The briefings were conducted at secure facilities in Washington and elsewhere.



I dont care who gets caught up in this, and who is fired...or charged wether its lefties or righties...up to and including obama
If there is evidence, and there is...then fuck em.
Im not even an american.

Repubs have downplayed the russian angle for over a year, and so have the dems. But Trump lies so freakin badly hes gonna regret his tweet.

Ps an interesting article from McClatchy http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html



NYT Accuses CNN, BuzzFeed Of Peddling "Fake News" Over Russia Report

Buzzfeed's Trump report takes 'fake news' to a new level

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:08:09 AM   
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just saying that manafort was a russian issue back in 2016.
You have been denying there is anything russian influenced. Oh except for hils and obama
Sorry but your hero started this himself..and yet, nearly 4 weeks later we are still without his "proof"
from his own mouth or tweeter. why?
Why is that? who is helping him investigate for facts CIA? FBI? Joe arpaio and the cold case team?
breitbart? alex?


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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:11:18 AM   
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Trump was presumed to be the GOP presidential nominee on May 4, 2016.

So Manafort was (officially) chairman for 4 of the 7 months of Trump's election campaign.

This is a brief involvement.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:13:00 AM   
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Trump was presumed to be the GOP presidential nominee on May 4, 2016.

So Manafort was (officially) leading his campaign for 4 of the 7 months of Trump's election campaign.
This is a brief involvement.


Nasty piece of work too. Just from his appearances.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:16:45 AM   
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You have been denying there is anything russian influenced.



Straw man fallacy

What I have been doing, is mocking those who refuse to admit that Hillary lost, refuse to give up the campaign to elect Hillary

That's what this is about. Back when John Podesta gave away his Gmail password and the many very serious Hillary scandals that were discussed in his emails surfaced, the Dems tried to deflect from those scandals by blaming Russia for the "hack"

That effort blossomed into full fledged hysteria, which continues to this day.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:18:25 AM   
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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:19:37 AM   
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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

Clinton news network, Brazaile delivering hitlery debate questions in advance-no collusion here.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:23:30 AM   
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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

Clinton news network, Brazaile delivering hitlery debate questions in advance-no collusion here.


I wonder how long it took MM to bold all of the sections he thought would overshadow the sections that said none of it is verifiable, no charges have been brought up, and none of that the sources would be identified

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:24:27 AM   
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Thats his shouty voice. shouty type...
lots of shouty..

Re; The topic.
Ive mentioned in several posts about manafort, apart from this one and my first one, but its all been totally ignored by most of the right, and often ridiculed, but that isnt unusual anyway

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

Clinton news network, Brazaile delivering hitlery debate questions in advance-no collusion here.


I wonder how long it took MM to bold all of the sections he thought would overshadow the sections that said none of it is verifiable, no charges have been brought up, and none of that the sources would be identified

Let us hope he was not too traumatized to have to come out of the safe space, and do the formatting.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:28:55 AM   
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Thats his shouty voice. shouty type...
lots of shouty..

Re; The topic.
Ive mentioned in several posts about manafort, apart from this one and my first one, but its all been totally ignored by most of the right, and often ridiculed, but that isnt unusual anyway


He is correct

The Democrats actually did "fix" the election process, with the help of CNN

The "Russian hack" not so much, Kirata has posted some information that seriously undermines that idea

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:33:34 AM   
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I welcome an investigation actually. And as soon as possible. In combination with the Clintons and the DNC screwing Bernie over. Let's not have it be one sided-if there was corruption in the election,or a betrayal of national intersts.....ALL must pay. "Superdelegates" had Bernie fucked before the first vote. Totally rigged. God knows how much dirt she has on the members of the DNC to force the shittiest possible choice to the top of the heap.

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:36:30 AM   
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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

Clinton news network, Brazaile delivering hitlery debate questions in advance-no collusion here.

Im quite sure there is an investigation into trumps campaign staff on CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc, And Fox, Breitbart, Alex et al. I wouldnt be surprised them investigating Breitbarts death.
There are plenty of media that are going to be worrying about what they have done and said.
Not just lefty ones.

I have to admit I am looking forward to whatever comes out at the end of it, and the evidence.
Trump is in a very bad place right now, and he is making it worse.
Its all on him
if he comes out smelling like a peach, I will applaud him

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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:39:19 AM   
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Thats his shouty voice. shouty type...
lots of shouty..

Re; The topic.
Ive mentioned in several posts about manafort, apart from this one and my first one, but its all been totally ignored by most of the right, and often ridiculed, but that isnt unusual anyway


He is correct

The Democrats actually did "fix" the election process, with the help of CNN

The "Russian hack" not so much, Kirata has posted some information that seriously undermines that idea


If they fixed the election process, they failed badly. She lost.
I havent read Kiratas post yet.


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RE: AP: Trump's Manafort secretly worked to advance Put... - 3/22/2017 7:40:02 AM   
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I'm sure the bold lettering makes it all true. Please get back to me when the congressional investigation report comes out-media is shit.


The media has made an utter mockery of itself during this whole campaign

Clinton news network, Brazaile delivering hitlery debate questions in advance-no collusion here.

Im quite sure there is an investigation into trumps campaign staff on CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc, And Fox, Breitbart, Alex et al. I wouldnt be surprised them investigating Breitbarts death.
There are plenty of media that are going to be worrying about what they have done and said.
Not just lefty ones.

I have to admit I am looking forward to whatever comes out at the end of it, and the evidence.
Trump is in a very bad place right now, and he is making it worse.
Its all on him
if he comes out smelling like a peach, I will applaud him

I'm only concerned with the country pulling out of it's financial death spiral at this point. I could give a rats ass about the parties-I wish these corporate shills would just die. The dual system is set up in an attempt to divide and conquer. But there is always a third option-just have to remove the blinders. It's going to be a big battle to kill off the new world order here. It owns everything.

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