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BamaD -> Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/23/2017 8:12:42 PM)
Just last summer I was told once again (I have heard this threat for over 40 years) that if we didn't give the gun grabbers what they want they would just take all gun rights. I was branded as a gun nut when I said national reciprocity would come sooner than more gun bans. Looks like I was right. Now the gun grabbers say that that would allow " criminals and dangerous people to have guns, Nobody give ccw permits to criminals (having your rights restored doesn't do it in Alabama and requires proof that you are not a threat to even consider it). Who is dangerous, the guy you want to mug?

Lucylastic -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/23/2017 9:03:23 PM)
I really love that you arent polluting other threads, but three over CCWS in one day??? going for a record??? you have a ways to go.

mnottertail -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/23/2017 9:04:45 PM)
The constitutional murderers people are holding their own in the nutsucker felchgobble.

Termyn8or -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 2:38:58 AM)
Not every killing is a murder. T^T

mnottertail -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 5:25:09 AM)
not everyone who sees issues with the system is a gun grabber, although I am sure the point is pointless.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 7:55:08 AM)
I am adamantly opposed to all concealed carry. If you are going to carry a gun, do so openly so the rest of us know you have a gun.

Musicmystery -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 8:52:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Just last summer I was told once again (I have heard this threat for over 40 years) that if we didn't give the gun grabbers what they want they would just take all gun rights. I was branded as a gun nut when I said national reciprocity would come sooner than more gun bans. Looks like I was right. Now the gun grabbers say that that would allow " criminals and dangerous people to have guns, Nobody give ccw permits to criminals (having your rights restored doesn't do it in Alabama and requires proof that you are not a threat to even consider it). Who is dangerous, the guy you want to mug? You branded yourself as a "gun nut" LONG before last summer and this issue, because (a) it's all you EVER think about, (b) you are automatically against ANY gun regulation, and (c) automatically support ANY NRA deregulation, as well as (d) always defend the guy with the gun in any conflict and (e) deny the ready access to firearms in the US contributes substantially to gun violence. Further, (f) you maintain that anyone who disagrees with you wants to take all guns. I know a LOT of people with guns. NONE of them resemble you on ANY of these points. But you'll probably go on creating your own version of reality. It's what you do. Poor victim with a gun and a view.

Lucylastic -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 9:27:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Not every killing is a murder. T^T Every killing is a death caused by someone else....

WickedsDesire -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 9:48:51 AM)
whats a CCWS?

truckinslave -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 10:37:53 AM)
Why on earth is that any of your business?

mnottertail -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 11:04:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire whats a CCWS? Concealed Carry Weapon(S) IN this CASE

BamaD -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 11:43:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Not every killing is a murder. T^T Every killing is homicide, but not every homicide is murder.

BamaD -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 11:47:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick I am adamantly opposed to all concealed carry. If you are going to carry a gun, do so openly so the rest of us know you have a gun. No, open carry does two things that are bad. A. It stresses out people who are afraid of guns. B. it tells the bad guys who to shoot first.

mnottertail -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 2:14:20 PM)
And concealed carry tells the cops who to shoot first.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 7:11:12 PM)
I have considered taking the class and applying for a CPL (Concealed Pistol License), but I came to the decision that I actually don't want to carry a deadly weapon around on me. I own my weapons for basically three reasons: 1. Target practic . A) It's fun B) I consider it my responsibility, as a gun owner to learn how to operate the gun safely and be able to hit what I aim at. 2. If the shit hits the fan (like an economic colapse or rioting nearby) I would rather have protection than wish I did. 3. In regards to #2, I may not have been hunting in a long time, I still like to know that in any long-term event (natural disaster etc) I have the means to go out and at least bring home dinner. When I take these three reasons and weigh them against the responsibility of concealed carry and the risks; I decided that it wasn't something I wanted to do. However, having the right to make those decisions, for myself, is important to me. If the politacal, economic, religious and racial issues continue to escalate - as they seem to be - and it comes down to me feeling I NEED a gun to feel safe, I doubt seriously that a license to conceal carry is goinng to be of any use. As for anyone being called a gun nut, well, take from them any wisdom you can find and leave the rest. My thinking runs along these lines: If a majority of people express a consistent sentiment, evaluate your position/POV and consider if there are ways to better express your POV or if there is some truth to what people are saying. If you can't periodically evaluate your views on things and consider alternative POV's; you might be a little too set in your ways.

BamaD -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 7:44:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance I have considered taking the class and applying for a CPL (Concealed Pistol License), but I came to the decision that I actually don't want to carry a deadly weapon around on me. I own my weapons for basically three reasons: 1. Target practic . A) It's fun B) I consider it my responsibility, as a gun owner to learn how to operate the gun safely and be able to hit what I aim at. 2. If the shit hits the fan (like an economic colapse or rioting nearby) I would rather have protection than wish I did. 3. In regards to #2, I may not have been hunting in a long time, I still like to know that in any long-term event (natural disaster etc) I have the means to go out and at least bring home dinner. When I take these three reasons and weigh them against the responsibility of concealed carry and the risks; I decided that it wasn't something I wanted to do. However, having the right to make those decisions, for myself, is important to me. If the politacal, economic, religious and racial issues continue to escalate - as they seem to be - and it comes down to me feeling I NEED a gun to feel safe, I doubt seriously that a license to conceal carry is goinng to be of any use. As for anyone being called a gun nut, well, take from them any wisdom you can find and leave the rest. My thinking runs along these lines: If a majority of people express a consistent sentiment, evaluate your position/POV and consider if there are ways to better express your POV or if there is some truth to what people are saying. If you can't periodically evaluate your views on things and consider alternative POV's; you might be a little too set in your ways. Owning/carrying a firearm is a right, not a privilege, or a duty. If it is subject to what others want to do it would be a privilege. If you have to own/carry (by law) it is a duty. It is your choice.

thompsonx -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/24/2017 7:59:30 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD Just last summer I was called a fool You get called a fool all the time. ..so what's new?

BamaD -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/25/2017 10:50:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick I am adamantly opposed to all concealed carry. If you are going to carry a gun, do so openly so the rest of us know you have a gun. You want people who carry to be walking around with strapped down holsters so people can grab the exposed firearm? You are opposed to carry period. All open carry would do for you is stress you out.

Musicmystery -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/25/2017 10:57:44 AM)
I've said this before, but I'll repeat it for you. I was never for ending gun rights. But after years of talking to people like you, I'm beginning to reconsider.

BamaD -> RE: Just last summer I was called a fool because I thought that reciprocity off ccws before more bans. (3/25/2017 1:00:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Just last summer I was told once again (I have heard this threat for over 40 years) that if we didn't give the gun grabbers what they want they would just take all gun rights. I was branded as a gun nut when I said national reciprocity would come sooner than more gun bans. Looks like I was right. Now the gun grabbers say that that would allow " criminals and dangerous people to have guns, Nobody give ccw permits to criminals (having your rights restored doesn't do it in Alabama and requires proof that you are not a threat to even consider it). Who is dangerous, the guy you want to mug? You branded yourself as a "gun nut" LONG before last summer and this issue, because (a) it's all you EVER think about, (b) you are automatically against ANY gun regulation, and (c) automatically support ANY NRA deregulation, as well as (d) always defend the guy with the gun in any conflict and (e) deny the ready access to firearms in the US contributes substantially to gun violence. Further, (f) you maintain that anyone who disagrees with you wants to take all guns. I know a LOT of people with guns. NONE of them resemble you on ANY of these points. But you'll probably go on creating your own version of reality. It's what you do. Poor victim with a gun and a view. Wrong on so many counts. A I do not claim to be a gun nut. B I do not consider myself to be a victim. C I do not oppose all gun regulation. D Crime has gone down as gun ownership has gone up so it cannot be the main problem. It may not be the cause of the decrease in crime but it can't be the cause. In fact gun bans are followed by crime increases (see DC and Chicag o) While ccw laws are consistently followed by crime drops.

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