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Musicmystery -> RE: A Thoughtful Conservative Take On Health-Care Moving Forward (3/25/2017 10:11:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

FR

Great read, thanks!

You are welcome.

The rest of his piece, should you choose to look it up, isn't as interesting: it's about his feud with the WSJ editorial staff 7-8 years ago and a lot of essentially "I told you so."




Musicmystery -> RE: A Thoughtful Conservative Take On Health-Care Moving Forward (3/25/2017 11:02:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Great. How about you research single payer and tell me how that does not work, and wont work for Americans? And how nothing can be done to repair Obamacare and why, and what would make a workable system from anything 'the right' has got, and why?

Theres your help, go to it.

That's the thing. There's no doubt the ACA needs fixing. And Trump could have gone that route and been a hero.

But that would have taken work and thought. And it would have meant reining in Ryan's dreams of scrapping Medicaid/Medicare.

Now they'll have to find some other way to fund their tax cuts.




Musicmystery -> RE: A Thoughtful Conservative Take On Health-Care Moving Forward (3/27/2017 8:59:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I wasnt a big fan of frum for a long time, but Ive seen him a lot lately and some of this thoughts are promising:)
This is definitely interesting.

Another sentence I liked is
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Paul Ryan still upholds the right of Americans to “choose” to go uninsured if they cannot afford to pay the cost of their insurance on their own. His country no longer agrees.

Of course there are people that voted for a repub/Scrotus because they believed they had something that would save them money on their healthcare costs( and insurance) but wasnt a major priority for their vote.
NOW The protests at town halls have been effective, and its not just "paid protestors" snerk, its THEIR own people that are angry and needing their healthcare.
its become vital to them as Frum says.


Obama SHOULD have gone with single payer/medicaid for all, or use bits from various systems that work elsewhere.
But thats been my opinion since before I left england.
Being a recipient of single payer(NHS OHIP whatever) my whole life and been involved in it, professionally it seems the only logical way.
The more I understand about the US system, the more troubled I am for those on the lower to middle rungs of america







It could be fixed. But first, it's got to stop being a partisan proxy war.




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