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mnottertail -> LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 5:57:19 AM)

Well, thats whats on the cart, right?

The notion is:

More Welfare to corporations first,
Then they will look at the citizenry.

Hows it gonna play?

LOL.

I think with the nutsucker communist agenda corporations are going to get huge breaks.

They will never get to citizens, same as last time they 'reformed'.

And they will continue to borrow and spend, 1.4 trillion over the deficit (thats why debt and deficit do not go in lockstep) in the last session, wonder how much now?




bounty44 -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:02:25 AM)

"LOL"---really? sure..."LOL"---really? sure...

it would help if you actually posted something of substance---something like what the actual proposals are---as opposed to the fascinations of an addled mind.

as well as learn to use the word "commie" correctly.

or were you aiming to make this yet another ineffectual and impotent thread?

maybe lots of "felchgobbles" "retard" and parroting back whats been said will make those points go away?

and for good measure: nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker




mnottertail -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:19:05 AM)

well, dogshit44, i am posting the nutsucker addled mind, thats what they got so far, that is the proposal. Nutsuckers are impotent and ineffectaual, just like you. Have you not been aware of the actual news, or are you still flogging the nutsucker slobberblogs? I didnt misuse commie, I used communist correctly.

If you could ever post anything of substance rather than felchgobble nutsucker slobberblogs, maybe you could speak about some subject with personal knowledge and intelligence, but you have yet to do either.

Nice factless useless nutsucker felchgobble though, up to your usual sub-standards, dogshit44.




WickedsDesire -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:19:38 AM)

I think the legislation will read exactly like this:

Tax cuts for the rich and tax increases for the paupers - to fill the void.

Followed by some mental scrawl – looks like it has been signed with a crayon held by some mad fuk with a claw and complete brain derangement.




Musicmystery -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:44:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

"LOL"---really? sure..."LOL"---really? sure...

it would help if you actually posted something of substance---something like what the actual proposals are---as opposed to the fascinations of an addled mind.

as well as learn to use the word "commie" correctly.

or were you aiming to make this yet another ineffectual and impotent thread?

maybe lots of "felchgobbles" "retard" and parroting back whats been said will make those points go away?

and for good measure: nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker nutsucker

Well, historically, the proposals have been "we'll just cut taxes on the wealthy and the resultant boom in the economy will turn that revenue cut into a revenue bloom." It's never happened. So they keep borrowing money to "pay" for it.

I think that's worth a little ridicule. Especially with Ryan in the game.

But yes, in all fairness, let's let them come up with a plan first.

On the other hand, like the health care thing -- why don't they already have most of this stuff ready to go? Or at least ready to debate? Doesn't really inspire much faith in their "leadership."




MrRodgers -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:48:27 AM)

Well tax reform for the repubs means tax reduction 80-90% of which will go to the top 10-20% of the income tax brackets and 10-20% will go the the bottom 80-90% of the brackets.

.....from the current 7 tiers of tax rates, down to just three: 12%, 25%, and a top rate of 33% that kicks in at $225,000 (for married couples, or $112,500 for individuals). Both proposals would still keep preferential rates for capital gains and qualified dividends, although President Trump would retain the current 3 brackets (0%, 15%, and 20%), while the House GOP would simply make the rates 50% of the ordinary tax bracket (which means investment income would be taxed at 6%, 12.5%, and 16.5%).

To call that last tax, investment income, is yet another Orwellian term that really means, long term capital gains [sic] buying paper or real estate, holding it for a year and selling which serves no function to benefit the economy.

Deductions:

House GOP eliminates all deductions except mortgage interest and charitable.

Trump wants to leave it alone except to cap them at $100,000 indiv. $200,000 for married.

HERE

Furthermore, the corporate tax: replace it with a new “destination-based cash-flow tax (DBCFT)” at a 20 percent rate for corporations and 25 percent for unincorporated businesses. The new tax would be border-adjustable – taxing imports and exempting exports.

There are 11 poinhts:

(4) However, precisely because the DBCFT does not have the negative incentive effects of the corporate income tax, there is no good reason to reduce the tax rate to 25/20 percent. Indeed, the tax rate should be equal to the top rate on individual income, so as to reduce incentives to reclassify wage income as business income.

(5) Border adjustment of a VAT is not some wild, radical idea. It is a natural and logical part of the tax. All advanced countries with VATs employ border adjustments. In order to focus the tax on domestic consumption, the VAT should exempt exports – which are consumed abroad – and tax imports – which are consumed here. Again, exactly like a retail sales tax.

Oh yea ? Americans want policies that promote economic growth and help put more money back in their pockets. President Donald Trump and the new Republican Congress have made it a priority to pursue pro-growth policies that do just that.

The Border Adjustment Tax Does the Opposite

The Border Adjustment Tax, under consideration in Congress today, slaps outrageous taxes on imported goods—like clothing, food, medicine, and gasoline—products Americans rely on every day.

Under the BAT, a U.S. large company may virtually pay no corporate taxes simply because it exports products, while another American company delivering affordable essentials to their consumers will be faced with crushing taxes simply because many of these essentials must be imported. This means higher prices for everyday goods that Americans purchase, and taxpayer subsidies for products sold abroad. The Border Adjustment Tax is a trillion-dollar tax break for a few corporations and a $1,700 bill for ordinary household expenses delivered to the address of every hardworking American family.

It’s not fair to make middle-class Americans pick up the tab to ensure some of the largest corporations pay little to no taxes. Congress should look to cut wasteful spending instead of imposing new taxes.

HERE




NoirMetal -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 6:50:21 AM)

Yeah,I think we would have been screwed either way. Hitleries ties to soros and wall street were not exactly encouraging the idea of her being a champion for the low wage earner.




Lucylastic -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 7:14:00 AM)

im equally surprised by poor people voting for trump, based on his intimate knowledge of the working man or woman.
The kochs, wall street, Adelson, etc
Not to mention all the delicious "moneyed" positions given by donation level not skill

betsey de vos springs to mind.




NoirMetal -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 7:17:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

im equally surprised by poor people voting for trump, based on his intimate knowledge of the working man or woman.
The kochs, wall street, Adelson, etc
Not to mention all the delicious "moneyed" positions given by donation level not skill

betsey de vos springs to mind.

I'm not terribly happy about any of it,but Trump is at least not going to screw with our basic rights in the interests of the Bilderburg group. Who think "useless eaters" like myself should be culled.

They only need enough slaves to operate the machinery and supply them with fuck toys and luxuries you know




Lucylastic -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 7:17:33 AM)

I cant remember where I heard read it, but the story was that they were banking on the repeal to provide funding for the tax cuts, so the skinny budget Scrotus put out will have to be reworked, and so will their tax reform.
660 billion from medicare would have given a lot more people up the chain a bigger tax cut.


Of course whatever happens, they will blame the dems:)




Lucylastic -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 7:21:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

im equally surprised by poor people voting for trump, based on his intimate knowledge of the working man or woman.
The kochs, wall street, Adelson, etc
Not to mention all the delicious "moneyed" positions given by donation level not skill

betsey de vos springs to mind.

I'm not terribly happy about any of it,but Trump is at least not going to screw with our basic rights in the interests of the Bilderburg group. Who think "useless eaters" like myself should be culled.

They only need enough slaves to operate the machinery and supply them with fuck toys and luxuries you know

aaaaaaah yes the new world order LOL

pushing poor working people deeper into the pit of despair.
seems to me there isnt any difference
Not when half the population earns less than $35000 a year.





MrRodgers -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 7:52:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

im equally surprised by poor people voting for trump, based on his intimate knowledge of the working man or woman.
The kochs, wall street, Adelson, etc
Not to mention all the delicious "moneyed" positions given by donation level not skill

betsey de vos springs to mind.

I'm not terribly happy about any of it,but Trump is at least not going to screw with our basic rights in the interests of the Bilderburg group. Who think "useless eaters" like myself should be culled.

They only need enough slaves to operate the machinery and supply them with fuck toys and luxuries you know

aaaaaaah yes the new world order LOL

pushing poor working people deeper into the pit of despair.
seems to me there isnt any difference
Not when half the population earns less than $35000 a year.



Well tell all of the kids and their kids to invest in desalination and vertical indoor farming. OR.....

.....get rich enough to buy certain land in Paraguay like the Bushes did.

HERE

Depends on who you want to believe:

HERE




WickedsDesire -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 8:42:03 AM)

His tax returns - see even i am forgetting about it. But total made up shite irrefutable and damming evidence has came into my possession

[image]http://collarspace.com/attachments/122516/65D00B2B-9DF5-4DD2-B796-ECB140EB77991.jpg[/image]




bounty44 -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 8:53:21 AM)

oh the horrors!

quote:

TAX REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The Goals Of Donald J. Trump’s Tax Plan

Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:

1. Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.

2. Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.

3. Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.

4. Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.

The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

1. If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

2. All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.

3. No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.

4. No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.

2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.

3. Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN

America needs a bold, simple and achievable plan based on conservative economic principles. This plan does that with needed tax relief for all Americans, especially the working poor and middle class, pro-growth tax reform for all sizes of businesses, and fiscally responsible steps to ensure this plan does not add to our enormous debt and deficit.

This plan simplifies the tax code by taking nearly 50% of current filers off the income tax rolls entirely and reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to four for everyone else. This plan also reduces or eliminates loopholes used by the very rich and special interests made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rates on individuals and companies.

The Trump Tax Plan: A Simpler Tax Code For All Americans

When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:

Income Tax Rate Long Term Cap Gains/ Dividends Rate (see the chart at the link)

With this huge reduction in rates, many of the current exemptions and deductions will become unnecessary or redundant. Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions. Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions.

Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions. Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

Simplifying the tax code and cutting every American’s taxes will boost consumer spending, encourage savings and investment, and maximize economic growth.

Business Tax Reform To Encourage Jobs And Spur Economic Growth

Too many companies – from great American brands to innovative startups – are leaving America, either directly or through corporate inversions. The Democrats want to outlaw inversions, but that will never work. Companies leaving is not the disease, it is the symptom. Politicians in Washington have let America fall from the best corporate tax rate in the industrialized world in the 1980’s (thanks to Ronald Reagan) to the worst rate in the industrialized world. That is unacceptable. Under the Trump plan, America will compete with the world and win by cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, taking our rate from one of the worst to one of the best.

This lower tax rate cannot be for big business alone; it needs to help the small businesses that are the true engine of our economy. Right now, freelancers, sole proprietors, unincorporated small businesses and pass-through entities are taxed at the high personal income tax rates. This treatment stifles small businesses. It also stifles tax reform because efforts to reduce loopholes and deductions available to the very rich and special interests end up hitting small businesses and job creators as well. The Trump plan addresses this challenge head on with a new business income tax rate within the personal income tax code that matches the 15% corporate tax rate to help these businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers grow and prosper.

These lower rates will provide a tremendous stimulus for the economy – significant GDP growth, a huge number of new jobs and an increase in after-tax wages for workers.

The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the very rich, starting by steepening the curve of the Personal Exemption Phaseout and the Pease Limitation on itemized deductions. The Trump plan also phases out the tax exemption on life insurance interest for high-income earners, ends the current tax treatment of carried interest for speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital, and reduces or eliminates other loopholes for the very rich and special interests. These reductions and eliminations will not harm the economy or hurt the middle class.
Because the Trump plan introduces a new business income rate within the personal income tax code, they will not harm small businesses either.

2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate. Since we are making America’s corporate tax rate globally competitive, it is only fair that corporations help make that move fiscally responsible. U.S.-owned corporations have as much as $2.5 trillion in cash sitting overseas. Some companies have been leaving cash overseas as a tax maneuver. Under this plan, they can bring their cash home and put it to work in America while benefitting from the newly-lowered corporate tax rate that is globally competitive and no longer requires parking cash overseas. Other companies have cash overseas for specific business units or activities. They can leave that cash overseas, but they will still have to pay the one-time repatriation fee.

3. An end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad. Corporations will no longer be allowed to defer taxes on income earned abroad, but the foreign tax credit will remain in place because no company should face double taxation.

4. Reducing or eliminating some corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/trump-tax-reform.pdf




WhoreMods -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 8:54:26 AM)

What the fuck does el presidente care about tax reform? It's not like he's going to start paying tax again however the tax laws are adjusted to cut his dues.




Lucylastic -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 9:18:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

oh the horrors!


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/trump-tax-reform.pdf

The Tax Policy Center estimates that the wealthiest taxpayers would save, on average, $1.1 million after taxes annually; middle earners, $1,010; and lowest earners, $110.

But no one knows how those big cuts would be paid for—a necessity for such proposals to get through Congress. Trump’s position that economic growth resulting from the tax cuts would quickly pay for them, for example, has been pooh-poohed. The Tax Policy Center estimates his proposals would cost the federal government $6.2 trillion in lost revenue over 10 years, and add

$7 trillion to the deficit in that time period. “




Lucylastic -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 9:20:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

What the fuck does el presidente care about tax reform? It's not like he's going to start paying tax again however the tax laws are adjusted to cut his dues.

he needs more money to pay for his golf trips, security for trump tower and trips
3 million a trip, and a security and financial nightmare over trump tower.




WhoreMods -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 9:22:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

What the fuck does el presidente care about tax reform? It's not like he's going to start paying tax again however the tax laws are adjusted to cut his dues.

he needs more money to pay for his golf trips, security for trump tower and trips
3 million a trip, and a security and financial nightmare over trump tower.


Oh, I see: somebody needs to be paying more tax to fund his perks.
You couldn't fucking make it up, could you?




Musicmystery -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 9:23:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

oh the horrors!

quote:

TAX REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The Goals Of Donald J. Trump’s Tax Plan

Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:

1. Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.

2. Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.

3. Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.

4. Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.

The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

1. If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

2. All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.

3. No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.

4. No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.

2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.

3. Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN

America needs a bold, simple and achievable plan based on conservative economic principles. This plan does that with needed tax relief for all Americans, especially the working poor and middle class, pro-growth tax reform for all sizes of businesses, and fiscally responsible steps to ensure this plan does not add to our enormous debt and deficit.

This plan simplifies the tax code by taking nearly 50% of current filers off the income tax rolls entirely and reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to four for everyone else. This plan also reduces or eliminates loopholes used by the very rich and special interests made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rates on individuals and companies.

The Trump Tax Plan: A Simpler Tax Code For All Americans

When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:

Income Tax Rate Long Term Cap Gains/ Dividends Rate (see the chart at the link)

With this huge reduction in rates, many of the current exemptions and deductions will become unnecessary or redundant. Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions. Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions.

Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions. Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

Simplifying the tax code and cutting every American’s taxes will boost consumer spending, encourage savings and investment, and maximize economic growth.

Business Tax Reform To Encourage Jobs And Spur Economic Growth

Too many companies – from great American brands to innovative startups – are leaving America, either directly or through corporate inversions. The Democrats want to outlaw inversions, but that will never work. Companies leaving is not the disease, it is the symptom. Politicians in Washington have let America fall from the best corporate tax rate in the industrialized world in the 1980’s (thanks to Ronald Reagan) to the worst rate in the industrialized world. That is unacceptable. Under the Trump plan, America will compete with the world and win by cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, taking our rate from one of the worst to one of the best.

This lower tax rate cannot be for big business alone; it needs to help the small businesses that are the true engine of our economy. Right now, freelancers, sole proprietors, unincorporated small businesses and pass-through entities are taxed at the high personal income tax rates. This treatment stifles small businesses. It also stifles tax reform because efforts to reduce loopholes and deductions available to the very rich and special interests end up hitting small businesses and job creators as well. The Trump plan addresses this challenge head on with a new business income tax rate within the personal income tax code that matches the 15% corporate tax rate to help these businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers grow and prosper.

These lower rates will provide a tremendous stimulus for the economy – significant GDP growth, a huge number of new jobs and an increase in after-tax wages for workers.

The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the very rich, starting by steepening the curve of the Personal Exemption Phaseout and the Pease Limitation on itemized deductions. The Trump plan also phases out the tax exemption on life insurance interest for high-income earners, ends the current tax treatment of carried interest for speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital, and reduces or eliminates other loopholes for the very rich and special interests. These reductions and eliminations will not harm the economy or hurt the middle class.
Because the Trump plan introduces a new business income rate within the personal income tax code, they will not harm small businesses either.

2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate. Since we are making America’s corporate tax rate globally competitive, it is only fair that corporations help make that move fiscally responsible. U.S.-owned corporations have as much as $2.5 trillion in cash sitting overseas. Some companies have been leaving cash overseas as a tax maneuver. Under this plan, they can bring their cash home and put it to work in America while benefitting from the newly-lowered corporate tax rate that is globally competitive and no longer requires parking cash overseas. Other companies have cash overseas for specific business units or activities. They can leave that cash overseas, but they will still have to pay the one-time repatriation fee.

3. An end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad. Corporations will no longer be allowed to defer taxes on income earned abroad, but the foreign tax credit will remain in place because no company should face double taxation.

4. Reducing or eliminating some corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/trump-tax-reform.pdf

Did you actually read this ? Because to call it "revenue neutral"is a fantasy at best, outright lies or fraud at worst.

A lot of rosy wishing instead of math.




bounty44 -> RE: LOL. Tax Reform (3/26/2017 10:23:38 AM)

"Details and Analysis of Donald Trump’s Tax Plan, September 2016"

quote:

Impact on the Economy:

According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the Trump tax plan would increase the long-run size of the economy by 6.9 percent under the higher-rate assumption, or 8.2 percent under the lower-rate assumption (Table 2). The larger economy would result in 5.4 percent higher wages and a 20.1 percent larger capital stock under the higher-rate assumption, or 6.3 percent higher wages and a 23.9 percent larger capital stock under the lower-rate assumption. The plan would also result in 1.8 million more full-time equivalent jobs under the higher-rate assumption, or 2.2 million more under the lower-rate assumption...

Impact on Revenue:

If fully enacted, the proposal would reduce federal revenue by $4.4 trillion over the next decade on a static basis under the higher-rate assumption, or $5.9 trillion under the lower-rate assumption (Table 4). The plan would reduce individual income tax revenue by $2.2 trillion over the next decade under the higher-rate assumption, or $3.7 trillion under the lower-rate assumption. Corporate tax revenue would fall by $1.9 trillion in both cases, and the remainder of the revenue loss would be due to the repeal of estate and gift taxes.

On a dynamic basis, the plan would reduce federal revenue by $2.6 trillion over the next decade under the higher-rate assumption, or $3.9 trillion under the lower-rate assumption. The larger economy would boost wages and thus broaden both the income and payroll tax bases. As a result, on a dynamic basis, payroll tax revenues would increase substantially, and income tax revenues would decrease by less than they do under the static analysis. On the other hand, corporate income tax revenue would actually decline even more on a dynamic basis. This is because the plan will encourage more investment and result in businesses deducting more capital investments, which would reduce corporate taxable income...

Distributional Impact of the Plan:

On a dynamic basis, all taxpayers would see an increase in after-tax income of at least 6.7 percent under the higher-rate assumption, or 7.9 percent under the lower-rate assumption. The top 1 percent of taxpayers would see an increase in after-tax income of 12.2 percent on a dynamic basis under the higher-rate assumption, or 19.9 percent under the lower-rate assumption...

Conclusion

Donald Trump’s tax plan as outlined in September 2016 is a large tax cut, mostly on individual and corporate income. This plan would significantly reduce the cost of capital and reduce the marginal tax rate on labor. These changes in the incentives to work and invest would increase the U.S. economy’s size in the long run, boost wages, and result in more full-time equivalent jobs. On a static basis, the plan would reduce federal revenue by between $4.4 trillion and $5.9 trillion, depending on policy assumptions about business tax rates. However, due to the larger economy and the significantly broader tax base, the plan would reduce revenue by between $2.6 trillion and $3.9 trillion over the next decade, depending on those same policy assumptions. In all cases, it would increase after-tax incomes for all income groups, but reduce revenue to the Treasury.


https://taxfoundation.org/details-analysis-donald-trump-tax-plan-2016/

a major difference here being a refutation to trump's claim of revenue neutrality.

I am okay either way---more dollars in the hands of people, less dollars in the hands of government.





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