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Musicmystery -> Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 10:51:01 AM)

A plain spoken Esquire piece. I know Trump supporters like plain-spoken' folk.

The Republican Party Cannot Govern
As a result, healthcare is that much more affordable for a bit longer.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
MAR 24, 2017

WASHINGTON—They cannot govern. The Republican Party as it is presently constituted, from party base to congressional leadership, is competent to do two things: complain and vandalize. If that wasn't made clear last November, it was made clear this week, when the entire government was turned into the biggest, gooiest, chewiest clusterfck in the history of democratic politics. It was the base who elected not only president*, but also all the members of Congress who got promoted up through the ranks when a great number of them probably should have been left back in Bug Tussle keeping Them off the golf course at The Club.

The congressional Republican majority doesn't need the president* to help it step on its dick, although his presence does add to the inherent comedy of any situation. This mess in the House Intelligence Committee is almost exclusively an intramural affair.

Chairman Devin Nunes, a former Trump transition team member, has drained every ounce of the committee's credibility as an oversight body. Democratic senior member Adam Schiff—no, not that Adam Schiff—is dead right about this. Schiff got completely fed up on Friday, when Nunes called an early-morning press conference, at which he contradicted himself and continued to appear as though he was running cover for the White House, and then later announced that he'd canceled a public hearing scheduled for next week at which James Clapper, John Brennan, and defenestrated US Attorney Sally Yates were scheduled to testify.

Curiously, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, and longtime Trump associate Carter Page, both of whom have worked extensively with important figures in the Russian governmental-entrepreneurial kleptocracy, offered to meet with the committee to discuss the suspicions that have been swirling around them. Nunes hinted that he would allow Manafort and Page to decide whether or not they'll appear in closed session, which is another thing that drove Schiff up the wall. He met with reporters on Friday afternoon.

"We don't welcome cutting off the public access to information when we have witnesses who are willing to testify in an open session," Schiff said. "To take evidence that may or may not be related to an investigation into Trump and his associates to the White House was wholly inappropriate. All of us are essentially in the dark."

Nunes has to go. He's compromised to within an inch of his liver. He's also fathoms over his head in this situation.

(In fact, and maybe this is my years covering Massachusetts politics coming out, were I Paul Ryan, and I thought the White House was going to try and pin the failure of the healthcare bill on my zombie-eyed, granny-starving behind, I might drop word that I was planning to take the Intelligence Committee away from Nunes and hand it to some Republican not necessarily loyal to the administration. Since I don't think Ryan's politician enough to come out of the rain at this point, I doubt this will happen, but it would be fun.)

I still prefer a bloodthirsty young special prosecutor to a gathering of Beltway wise men as an alternative. But one thing I do know: This week of disastrous nonsense was four decades in the making, and the Democratic minority has no responsibility for prying the Republicans' feet off their own dick.

Exhibit B is, of course, the healthcare debacle. Whee! Governmentin' is hard.





WickedsDesire -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 12:01:41 PM)

A lying fuk is exactly that - there is no translation to plain spoken, well unless they have 5 magic beans, save in warped minds bereft of reality.

They have a complete mad lying fuk at the helm so i am not overly shocked they cannot govern...and the republican lead senate has enabled everyone of creatures ludo moves




mnottertail -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 12:06:59 PM)

If they could pass shit, that wasnt dogshit, which they cannot (they havent anything beyond dogshit, and havent since St. Wrinklemeat proved than dogshit like trickledown sells to enough of the retards that they can seem for all their circlefelching like a majority) and that borrow and spending can be blamed on anyone other than those that do it, again because of retards, that he is a useful idiot to sign off on dogshit. Trouble is, this guy is pure nutsucker in that he is stupid and talks into microphones, and is not helpful in that way, after they have crafted their explanation of the dogshit so carefully, to get the seeming backing of the retards.




Real0ne -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 12:13:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

A lying fuk is exactly that - there is no translation to plain spoken, well unless they have 5 magic beans, save in warped minds bereft of reality.

They have a complete mad lying fuk at the helm so i am not overly shocked they cannot govern...and the republican lead senate has enabled everyone of creatures ludo moves



but hillary lost




Real0ne -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 12:14:28 PM)

so hows we the nutsuckers working for ya?




mnottertail -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 1:20:49 PM)

you werent. I said at the outset you nutsuckers are destroying this country.




Termyn8or -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/26/2017 6:40:49 PM)

This country is already destroyed if you think about it.

T^T




DesideriScuri -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 2:58:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
A plain spoken Esquire piece. I know Trump supporters like plain-spoken' folk.


The elitist attitude there is, pretty much, why Trump connected with enough voters in enough places, to win.




mnottertail -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 6:00:12 AM)

And that has worked out well for America, its not like the Douchmeister aint the apex of elitist.




thompsonx -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 8:24:06 AM)


ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

This country is already destroyed if you think about it.

T^T


Not so.
My welfare cheque comes on time and my drugs are delivered to me by a uniformed emisary of the federal government.
Life is good.




Musicmystery -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 8:29:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
A plain spoken Esquire piece. I know Trump supporters like plain-spoken' folk.


The elitist attitude there is, pretty much, why Trump connected with enough voters in enough places, to win.


Among the reasons, perhaps, not "the" reason. Mainly a talk-show talking point. A lot of voters stayed home because they didn't like any of the candidates (and for good reason).

I've never understood this campaign to walk away from intellectual approaches. Seems not smart--literally.




thompsonx -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 8:35:43 AM)


ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

The elitist attitude there is, pretty much, why Trump connected with enough voters in enough places, to win.

The 'kerensky' analogy made by susan sarandon seems to be taking shape.




Musicmystery -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 9:14:04 AM)

Yeah, dismissing something as "elitist," true or not, doesn't answer the questions raised.




thompsonx -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 9:22:09 AM)


ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yeah, dismissing something as "elitist," true or not, doesn't answer the questions raised.


I am not disagreeing with you. I was pointing out that susan sarandon was making the same point you are.
Granted you and she seek a different outcome from "disengagement".





WhoreMods -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 11:25:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I've never understood this campaign to walk away from intellectual approaches. Seems not smart--literally.

It's an elitist attitude popular among those who feel that the electorate are so fucking stupid they need to be talked down to in a condescending fashion.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 4:08:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Yeah, dismissing something as "elitist," true or not, doesn't answer the questions raised.


1. The elitist attitude was yours.
2. No questions were asked.




Musicmystery -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 4:11:45 PM)

1) Same point applies. Attitude doesn't dismiss content.
2) I'm sorry you're not familiar with common language patterns, such as the issues/questions raised by an article.

Maybe read more, snark less.

How's that for elitist? Fuck off.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 4:15:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

This country is already destroyed if you think about it.

T^T


Not so.
My welfare cheque comes on time and my drugs are delivered to me by a uniformed emisary of the federal government.
Life is good.


Drugs don't come FedEx? You must be second class.[8D] (I have been in a household when narcotics were simply left on the stoop by FedEx)




thompsonx -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/27/2017 10:01:09 PM)


ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
ORIGINAL: thompsonx
ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

This country is already destroyed if you think about it.

T^T


Not so.
My welfare cheque comes on time and my drugs are delivered to me by a uniformed emisary of the federal government.
Life is good.



Drugs don't come FedEx? You must be second class.[8D] (I have been in a household when narcotics were simply left on the stoop by FedEx)

My uniformed emisary is usps. They make me sign for them.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Governmentin' is Hard (3/28/2017 4:38:40 AM)

If they could pass shit, that wasnt dogshit, which they cannot (they havent anything beyond dogshit guffaws true thought isn't it - they meandering of to tax now, or the Russian thingy

Now now Real0ne you know I dont care about bitch witch binton either ( I did actually like sanders); who actually won the popular vote by 3 million. Well not if you believe trumpaloons, who many times stated he wasn't going to accept the result, and that 5 million ghosts had infact voted for Hillary and 80 billion illegals And he infact got every vote in the election: which was rigged....i really dont follow the mad lying fuks logic myself




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