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NoirMetal -> RE: -= What in the world is a straight trans? =- (3/27/2017 8:54:55 PM)
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
As I said, I understand CaptR's apathy "whether I feel the same way or not." And the OP of this thread is posted to gain understanding, not avoid it. Also, I wholehearted agree that "People don't fit into boxes nicely sometimes." However you read me right in that I feel we have redundantly over-complicated the terms for gender identity. It seems like we are trying to create a term for every niche. I understand wanting to have a term all to yourself for the sake of identity. But when having fewer terms and using two of them describes something accurately, you have a more user friendly situation. Especially for outsiders. Like Bi/Poly/Slave doesn't need a new word to separate it from Straight/Poly/Slave.
In the 70s I was involved in the gay community and producing drag shows. There were terms like butch, fem, top, bottom, sissy, bear, transsexual, drag queen etc. It was easy to understand what a transsexual top or transsexual bottom's role would be. I had an understanding of the terms we used . . . until I saw trans profiles on CollarSpace listing them as straight.
My disagreement with unnecessary new terms is not because I don't want learn about gender identity. I just think the straight majority feels we have gone too far. Now the politically correct, oversensitive gender identity community wants to eliminate the terms "he" and "she" to replace them with the universal term "ze" because . . . "binary conceptions of gender are unnecessarily rigid and don't correspond to the self-image of a great many people, and even that people's sense of their gender may not correspond to their biological sex. In this new world, a bland opposition between "he" and "she" seems increasingly antique, and even insulting, to many." I understand that perspective, but trying to associate he & she to an insult for straight people . . . well, I can see where a language change like that for a minority might feel like gay privilege to the straight majority. I don't think it will unite, educate or help further the LGBT cause. I think it will be met with the same disdain trans bathrooms were.
Goodbye to 'he' and 'she' and hello to 'ze'? - CNN
As far as the OP goes, I believe dcnovice might be onto something, "CM labels may not be the best tool for plumbing the complexities of gender identity." But that still leaves me wondering what gender a straight trans person is attracted to. Thank you for the link, but unfortunately the Glossary of LGBT-related Terms didn't help explain "straight trans" or teach me any new terms. We have an thread here on the forums that has an interesting glossary of terms from the Lesbian Handbook...
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4877168/tm.htm#4877168
So far, no one has been able to tell me whether a man's profile listed as Trans & Straight is seeking men, women or both.
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
Again- as a kinky person- have we not "subdivided" ourselves endlessly?
If I say I'm a sub- that doesn't mean slave- but it doesn't mean just bedroom only either. I could be a rope bunny, a maso, a slut who likes being shared, I could be into scat and piss play or fire and electricity- it's the same thing with all these meddling gay and trans kids.
People don't fit into boxes nicely sometimes. It's really that easy. It takes even less time and money to be educated about trans and LGBTQ lingo than it does to learn about kink. I think your confusion is just kinda an excuse to not learn about it- I don't want to give anyone undue credit here- but aren't you all smart enough to figure this shit out?
If you'd actually like to put effort into learning about it (instead of just trying to explain your confusion): http://www.fantasiafair.org/Glossary_of_Terms.aspx
You ask them. Not us-them.
It might not be what you imagine-so just do it.
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