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Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills for... - 3/30/2017 10:36:34 AM

jlf1961

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Melenia Trump does not want to move to the white house so that their son can continue to attend the school he has been.

This is all well and good, except:

Taxpayers want her to pay for the cost of security for Trump Tower penthouse, and they have some compelling reasons.

Trump wants to cut funding to Meals on Wheels, the primary source of healthy food for elderly shut ins.

Police Commissioner James O'Neill told lawmakers in February it costs the NYPD between $127,000 and $146,000 a day to protect the first lady and her 11-year-old son Barron.

Businesses near Trump Tower are paying the price for tight security for the first lady and her young son, Barron.

The Secret Service and NYPD have blocked off sidewalks in front of the tower and set up barricades on surrounding blocks.

A survey conducted by City Comptroller Scott Stringer in December 2016 found that of 50 businesses in the area, 80 percent of them are losing business.
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The real kicker, is the fact that conservatives both in congress and around the country and on this board bitched about Michelle Obama's trips citing cost of the use of the aircraft, crew AND security for the first family on those jaunts.

They continued to bitch even after it came out that the Obama's covered the cost themselves.

So, would someone explain why the added security costs, paid for by the Obama family while in the white house, was such a terrible and extravagant expense, and this is perfectly acceptable?

Did the Obama family maintain two households, at taxpayer expense, while Obama was in office?

No.

The simple fact is that if the Obama family (with a lot less financial resources than the Trumps) paid for the added expenses for Michelle and her kids to take extended side trip vacations, why is not okay for the Trump family to at least help defer the cost of maintaining two households and the security costs?

Furthermore, if Trump is so big on helping American based businesses, what about the ones that have lost business due to the security measures since he was elected?

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 10:53:52 AM

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They dont care about what it costs
about Melania
OR his trips golfing or how much it costs to cover mar a lago.
I dont blame her for staying in NY for the boy, but the cost is an issue
Basically we are paying for an estranged relationship, not alimony, but support.
Its well known that she is sposed to stay until june for the school situation.
That she also gets to save her son from the worst of the clusterfuck is good, but simply financially its a drain.
How many trips to mar a lago pay for a years meals on wheels? one?
but yeah we need more cuts for the wealthy to pad his own pocket.
Im not shocked that fiscal conservatives havent posted

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 11:06:48 AM

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What happens next fall when school starts again? Do they go back to NY and again screw the American public?

And I was reading a day or two ago that Florida wants Trump to reimburse the state and the businesses that have lost money due to Trumps almost weekly trips there. For three days out of every seven, businesses in the area are shut down for security purposes. There are a number of helicopter tour businesses that lose weekend business because the area becomes a no fly zone.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 11:39:46 AM

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I wonder what the costs will be for the Chinese presidents visit next week?
the security alone is gonna be humungous.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/30/donald-trump-xi-jinping-meeting-china-us-relations

Regarding Barrons schooling, I think he is going to school in DC? in the fall, that was the plan I think.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 12:37:46 PM

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president golfer guffaws that reminds me what did the mad lying fuk say about Obama golfing?

Wicked wonders what the mad lying fuk handicap is? - him!

Actually has anyone seen him play golf yet - i imagine creature to just pull down his stolen kiddies worn panties (see WM- your fault I said that to any litigators about) and just shit in the manner know as complete incoherence, everywhere. brown welly green and all that malarkey guffaws some more

how does the mental fuk drive a green then with a 3 shit?

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 6:52:56 PM

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It is fair to ask Trump to foot the bill of the security at Trump Tower for her. Because of her personal decision not to affect her son's life.

But people are criticizing her for doing what the Obamas are doing too. They rented a house in DC to continue staying there as their children haven't finish school and didn't want to disrupt their studies right?

Parents do that for their child's welfare ALL THE TIME!

But Trump should probably pay for the additional cost of this security for a personal choice. That decision added more cost to the country.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 7:29:03 PM

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Did the Obama family maintain two households, at taxpayer expense, while Obama was in office?

No.

Why yes, they did. There was security on the Obama home in Chicago.

That is how it works with all the President's. All of their homes have Secret Service protection. That protection is at the discretion of the Secret Service. Trump can NOT decline the Secret Service protection.

Them's the rules. Deal with it.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 7:42:20 PM

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Obamas' Separate Vacations Cost Taxpayers A Pretty Penny

And

They took separate jumbo jets to Hawaii etc

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:11:56 PM

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Not nearly as much as the SCROTUS will rack up.
The trip to hawaii, reportedly cost 4 million
thats one trip to mar a lago, just after his inauguration.
Again I ask, how much is security going to cost for the chinese leader and other leaders in florida next week?

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:15:50 PM

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But people are criticizing her for doing what the Obamas are doing too. They rented a house in DC to continue staying there as their children haven't finish school and didn't want to disrupt their studies right?

Except that there is no added expense for security for the Obama's your moron.

That is the complaint.

Or did you not grasp the meaning of 'Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills for Trump tower.'

You see, the Obama family are not maintaining two independent households at the same time, as the Trumps are.

Security for the Obama family does not impact nearby business (such as those located IN Trump Tower or neighboring buildings)

Not to mention that the secret service detail for a FORMER president is about half that of a CURRENT president.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:19:07 PM

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Not nearly as much as the SCROTUS will rack up.
The trip to hawaii, reportedly cost 4 million
thats one trip to mar a lago, just after his inauguration.
Again I ask, how much is security going to cost for the chinese leader and other leaders in florida next week?

I have never seen a full accounting, and I know you haven't either. You just pull what you think you know out of the crack of your ass

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:21:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Did the Obama family maintain two households, at taxpayer expense, while Obama was in office?

No.

Why yes, they did. There was security on the Obama home in Chicago.

That is how it works with all the President's. All of their homes have Secret Service protection. That protection is at the discretion of the Secret Service. Trump can NOT decline the Secret Service protection.

Them's the rules. Deal with it.

Except that a member of the first family was NOT in residence at the Chicago home, were they? Thus security was not as tight during his presidency.

Secondly, added to the bill for Trump tower there is also the bill for his residences at the various golf clubs he owns.

Not to mention the fucking impact on local businesses.

And Bosco, it is well documented that the Obama's paid for those expenses when they got the damn bill.

Give it up.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:26:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Did the Obama family maintain two households, at taxpayer expense, while Obama was in office?

No.

Why yes, they did. There was security on the Obama home in Chicago.

That is how it works with all the President's. All of their homes have Secret Service protection. That protection is at the discretion of the Secret Service. Trump can NOT decline the Secret Service protection.

Them's the rules. Deal with it.

Except that a member of the first family was NOT in residence at the Chicago home, were they? Thus security was not as tight during his presidency.

Secondly, added to the bill for Trump tower there is also the bill for his residences at the various golf clubs he owns.

Not to mention the fucking impact on local businesses.

And Bosco, it is well documented that the Obama's paid for those expenses when they got the damn bill.

Give it up.

You're the same way, only worse. You pull everything you post out of the crack of your ass

She wasn't called "Moochelle" for nothing

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 8:42:19 PM

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she was only called moochelle by rabid racists.
like you

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 9:05:43 PM

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Not nearly as much as the SCROTUS will rack up.
The trip to hawaii, reportedly cost 4 million
thats one trip to mar a lago, just after his inauguration.
Again I ask, how much is security going to cost for the chinese leader and other leaders in florida next week?

I have never seen a full accounting, and I know you haven't either. You just pull what you think you know out of the crack of your ass

im sorry you havent seen the request for his SS extra funding.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4341062/Secret-Service-asked-funds-protect-Trump.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/secret-service-cost-trump-2017-3
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325207-secret-service-requested-60m-budget-increase-to-protect-trump-family
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-22/secret-service-requested-additional-60m-to-protect-trump-family
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiXqs3d7v_SAhVh2oMKHbgbA5U4ChAWCBkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefiscaltimes.com%2F2017%2F03%2F23%2FSecret-Service-Won-t-Get-60-Million-More-Protect-Trumps&usg=AFQjCNH8esGkCXyQVOfmBFe9VhRi742_Yg&sig2=ALeRvLuuRhxRhcW9yJanWg&bvm=bv.151325232,d.amc

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 9:15:30 PM

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Another dumbarse trump fan, over extends her brain on trying to prove Obama costs more than the SCROTUS.

CNN Commentator Attacks Obama For Golfing In 2002 When Bush Was President
McEnany Botches Attack On Then-State Senator Obama When Defending Trump’s Golfing

KAYLEIGH MCENANY: There's a difference between President Bush, who took time away from vacationing, away from golfing, in honor of the Iraq war, versus President Obama, who --

DON LEMON (HOST): You tweeted about the president golfing.

MCENANY: Of course.

LEMON: You said work -- “Things that offend Obama: Work outside the golf course.” And you said, “DNC in four words, find a golf course.” And then you said, “President is annoyed. He just left a golf course and is counting down the minutes until he can go back. #Presidentialdebate.” I mean, you’ve tweeted about it.

MCENANY: And I’ll tell you why. Because, when President Bush took time off from the golf course in honor of the Iraq War, you had President Obama, who after the beheading of Daniel Pearl, spoke to how upset he was about that and then rushed off to a golf game.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/30/2017 11:22:22 PM

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Except that there is no added expense for security for the Obama's your moron.

The point is, alot of people are attacking Melanie for not wanting to move into the white house, and not because of cost issue. People were saying alot more than that.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/31/2017 3:55:50 AM

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Except that there is no added expense for security for the Obama's your moron.

The point is, alot of people are attacking Melanie for not wanting to move into the white house, and not because of cost issue. People were saying alot more than that.

No, the point is that her not doing so is costing the tax payer a fortune, and also seriously inconveniencing the businesses around Trump tower (and so reducing tax revenues, in fact). Coming from somebody married to a candidate who campaigned with a load of blather about draining the swamp and reducing institutionalised freeloading in American government, it's an unpleasant display of hypocrisy.

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/31/2017 5:30:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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Not nearly as much as the SCROTUS will rack up.
The trip to hawaii, reportedly cost 4 million
thats one trip to mar a lago, just after his inauguration.
Again I ask, how much is security going to cost for the chinese leader and other leaders in florida next week?

I have never seen a full accounting, and I know you haven't either. You just pull what you think you know out of the crack of your ass

im sorry you havent seen the request for his SS extra funding.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4341062/Secret-Service-asked-funds-protect-Trump.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/secret-service-cost-trump-2017-3
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/325207-secret-service-requested-60m-budget-increase-to-protect-trump-family
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-22/secret-service-requested-additional-60m-to-protect-trump-family
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiXqs3d7v_SAhVh2oMKHbgbA5U4ChAWCBkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefiscaltimes.com%2F2017%2F03%2F23%2FSecret-Service-Won-t-Get-60-Million-More-Protect-Trumps&usg=AFQjCNH8esGkCXyQVOfmBFe9VhRi742_Yg&sig2=ALeRvLuuRhxRhcW9yJanWg&bvm=bv.151325232,d.amc

Costs alone mean little

I am sure you have seen video of Democrats pepper spraying women and beating old men, mobbing conservatives speech venues and rallies

It costs more when you violent fascists lash out in agony after getting your queen bitch stomped on, and your MSM eggs you on with insane conspiracy lies about "Russia and Trump stoleded thuh ulection frum us" etc

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RE: Tax payers want Melenia Trump to pay security bills... - 3/31/2017 7:04:12 AM

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Another dumbarse trump fan, over extends her brain on trying to prove Obama costs more than the SCROTUS.

CNN Commentator Attacks Obama For Golfing In 2002 When Bush Was President
McEnany Botches Attack On Then-State Senator Obama When Defending Trump’s Golfing

KAYLEIGH MCENANY: There's a difference between President Bush, who took time away from vacationing, away from golfing, in honor of the Iraq war, versus President Obama, who --

DON LEMON (HOST): You tweeted about the president golfing.

MCENANY: Of course.

LEMON: You said work -- “Things that offend Obama: Work outside the golf course.” And you said, “DNC in four words, find a golf course.” And then you said, “President is annoyed. He just left a golf course and is counting down the minutes until he can go back. #Presidentialdebate.” I mean, you’ve tweeted about it.

MCENANY: And I’ll tell you why. Because, when President Bush took time off from the golf course in honor of the Iraq War, you had President Obama, who after the beheading of Daniel Pearl, spoke to how upset he was about that and then rushed off to a golf game.

BAH! Presidential vacations, outings, "change of scenery" are something that is bitched about with every president. A pox on both their houses for that.

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