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Greta75 -> Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 7:55:25 AM)

I was watching BBC presentation on British Indian men going into India to cheat Indian Brides.

Basically Indian culture is the bride pays a dowry. This could be as much as 25k dough.

So it's easy money for these dudes. Get on one of these arrange marriages. Marry the girl in India. Take the money. Goes back to Britain and disappear. Abandoning the wife in India.

Or bringing the bride to Britain, and then lie about taking her on a holiday back to India. And then abandoning her back there.

Should UK have a law to prosecute British men who cheat brides overseas? Because it seriously is cheating and swindling someone's money.

After all UK prosecutes British men who does pedophilia overseas. So they should prosecute for this too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6OmhfOgj_4




WhoreMods -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 8:00:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Should UK have a law to prosecute British men who cheat brides overseas?

It does. Have you never heard of fraud, Greta? There's quite a bit of legislation about that.




Greta75 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 8:46:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Should UK have a law to prosecute British men who cheat brides overseas?

It does. Have you never heard of fraud, Greta? There's quite a bit of legislation about that.

Yea, but when the fraud is commited overseas, they can't be prosecuted currently.

That's what BBC is saying, that, there is no law in Britain currently to prosecute these guys for doing this as the fraud is occurring in another country.

Some of them are already married men in Britain too. I wonder if they could get prosecuted for Bigamy if their Indian Bride produces a their Indian Marriage Cert To British Authorities.




WhoreMods -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 9:03:46 AM)

There's laws in India specifically to deal with this. (Some aspects of said legislation our noble defenders of men's rights would find downright frightening: it definitely favours the woman who's been defrauded of her dowry.) Extradition to stand trial here or retrieving the missing dowry is another issue, though.




Greta75 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 9:10:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Extradition to stand trial here or retrieving the missing dowry is another issue, though.

Which is precisely why Britain needs to prosecute their own citizens for defrauding women overseas.

Infact once these men know they can't stay safe in Britain after doing this. I bet it will significantly stop.





eulero83 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 4:43:28 PM)

I think they should extradate those that committed the fraud in India and those that were bigamous, and prosecute those that left the uk with the intent of abandoning the wife in india, in that vase the fraud started in the uk.




BamaD -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 5:38:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Should UK have a law to prosecute British men who cheat brides overseas?

It does. Have you never heard of fraud, Greta? There's quite a bit of legislation about that.

Yea, but when the fraud is commited overseas, they can't be prosecuted currently.

That's what BBC is saying, that, there is no law in Britain currently to prosecute these guys for doing this as the fraud is occurring in another country.

Some of them are already married men in Britain too. I wonder if they could get prosecuted for Bigamy if their Indian Bride produces a their Indian Marriage Cert To British Authorities.

Why doesn't India have laws against this, or do they.




Real0ne -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/2/2017 5:48:38 PM)

you dont need 'laws' to sue for damages. the problem is attorneys are lazy and they wont unless its a rubber stamp win.

you can for all intents and purposes reach out and touch anyone through the courts, just need to understand the procedures. Hell you dont even need to ba an attorney, but its unlikely the average person would do it themselves.




Greta75 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 3:41:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Why doesn't India have laws against this, or do they.

The problem is. After marriage. The guy flies back to Britain first, promising the "wife", he will come back for her, AFTER pocketing the money.

So what can India do to catch someone who is overseas?





freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 3:57:20 AM)

The problem is that the dowry is a religious thing and nothing to do with the law.

If the husband comes back to the UK, they are still married... just not living together.
As such, technically and legally, there's no 'fraud' being committed.
The laws regarding bringing in a foreign wife to the UK isn't as straight forward as it used to be.
At one time, the spouse had a right of entry and residence to the UK - not so these days.
All the husband has to do is wait for 2 years and file for divorce for separation during that time - and it will be granted.
He is then free to do it all over again and not be breaking any laws.

Expectations are one thing. The legal issue is quite another.




Greta75 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:12:54 AM)

And saddest thing is, the Indian dude can do this multiple times to several women.

While once these women, even IF marriage not consummated, is seen as damaged goods and will never have another chance.

This stupid dowry culture needs to go!







bondageerone -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:17:36 AM)

one simple solution would be to throw all the #foreigners# out ...hahaha.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:17:47 AM)

I quite agree.

It's ancient and outdated.

Unfortunately, Islam doesn't subscribe to modern western ways of equal rights for women.
They are still stuck in the dark ages.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:22:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bondageerone

one simple solution would be to throw all the #foreigners# out ...hahaha.

And what if they are born in the UK??
They ain't foreigners are they.

So where would you throw them out to?? [:-]




WhoreMods -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:44:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

I quite agree.

It's ancient and outdated.

Unfortunately, Islam doesn't subscribe to modern western ways of equal rights for women.
They are still stuck in the dark ages.


Of course: the moslem country of India.
Next door to the mostly Hindu Pakistan...




mnottertail -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:54:11 AM)

Here now, I thought the lot of these blokes was Shinto.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 4:55:22 AM)

Still rooted in the dark ages with ancient out-dated customs and still no equality for women.

Different roots but same attitude.




Greta75 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 5:07:56 AM)

It's Ironic. This Indian dowry thing is probably one of the rare cultures, where you have to pay men to marry you.

Usually it's the other way round. I mean Chinese culture, the man pays the dowry to the bride's father.





freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 5:18:06 AM)

It's not that rare when you think about it Greta.

In the western world, who usually pays for the wedding, the bridesmaids, the wedding feast & reception??
The bride's parents is the usual tradition.
So in that sense, western society is much the same.




bondageerone -> RE: Should UK Prosecute their Indian citizens for cheating Indian Brides (4/3/2017 5:55:10 AM)

dear freed...... back to india. and then all the newsagents would shut. xx Terri.




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