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ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

What drives Holocaust denial?

I wonder if it might be worth looking there.

why would anyone deny something you cant prove, which is you cannot prove so much as one jew was gassed, much less 6 million!

I on the other hand do not deny the holocaust I as WHICH ONE there were so many that adding up how many time jews were holocausted would mean no hjew would exist on the planet?

those who say I deny the holocaust are bold faced LAIRS most likely because they cant prove so much as one jew was gassed

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

I agree, pretty distasteful but I feel almost a duty in the face of it to let others know what the truth is, even though I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference to RealOne.

I personally have visited Dachau and have talked with several survivors of the concentration camps.

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

I will not stand by and watch my neighbors taken away by people who talk like this.

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

You lying weasel, let's take a look at your "well researched post".

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
but the jews were extremeated before hitler rose to power, are you saying that it was really 12 million jews were gassed and no evidence to even prove one jew was gassed? WTF is up with that shit man?

Maybe it was a world wide conspiracy theory against the jews ya think?




So who the fuck exterminated 6 million jews in 1919?

and then Hitler exterminated 6 million more? WTF already?
...

If you look at your fast flashing GIF with underlining, one might think it says what you infer it says, if you only read the underlined parts.

But I was raised when the President could read at 1200 wpm and could speak in complete sentences and didn't just repeat over and over catch phrases and sound bites.

So, I was taught speed reading and topped out over average in speed and comprehension. Which means I was able to read what was said in your poor attempt at passing off lying propaganda and didn't just fall for the underlined parts.

So for those who want to get a closer look at what a lying weasel you really are; here of some of the actual thoughts of the article in context:
The title of the article is:
Ukrainian Jews Aim to Stop Pogroms

One of the sub-titles is:
Mass Meeting Hears That 127,000 Jews Have Been Killed and 6,000,000 Are in Peril

The paragraph that had your underlining was this:
"We come out now before the world with the determined slogan "Those pogroms must stop."' said the President in his annual message. "It is only a question of holding these facts continually before the civilized world; we must not permit the world to slumber. This fact that the population of 6,000.000 souls in Ukrainia and in Poland have received notice through action and by word that they are going to be completely exterminated - this fact stands before the whole world as the paramount issue of the present day." (underlining is that found in the Lying Weasel's GIF)

If anyone wants to read what the article actually says and not what this lying weasel wants you to think it says, you can find it here:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B00E0DE153AE03ABC4053DFBF668382609EDE

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

I agree, pretty distasteful but I feel almost a duty in the face of it to let others know what the truth is, even though I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference to RealOne.

I personally have visited Dachau and have talked with several survivors of the concentration camps.

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

I will not stand by and watch my neighbors taken away by people who talk like this.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

I agree, pretty distasteful but I feel almost a duty in the face of it to let others know what the truth is, even though I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference to RealOne.

I personally have visited Dachau and have talked with several survivors of the concentration camps.

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

I will not stand by and watch my neighbors taken away by people who talk like this.

I too have visited Dachau and talked with survivors. I too am disgusted by what I see posted on this board by Realone. But what I see posted by him is only what is quoted by others, as I have had him on hide since shortly after I first came on here.

I pegged him as clearly certifiable early on, and from what I can tell just from responses that I see to his posts, there is almost no one that agrees with anything he says. So I don't think that there is anyone on these boards that gain any enlightenment from anyone engaging with him. Only a lot of eye-rolling.

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Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

This Holocaust denial filth has a long history on these forums. You are being used, Miles. Can't you see how much RO is enjoying the joust? The most effective way to shut him up is through withholding response. Otherwise, you are simply assisting him in layering bullshit indignities over the horrible, inhumane deaths.

Now if you want to come out here and tell us that 6 million jews were systematically gassed that raises the evidence to the same requirements as any other murder case, in which autopsy reports are required and the of course the germans would have had to have the capabilities and resources to pull of such a caper and when anyone asks you for material evidence you cant even us enough to prove one jew was gassed!

WTF is up with that vince? I mean you know. If you believe something with out hard evidence then you have faith which means you adopted the 'gassing' conspiracy theory as your religion. But thats ok europe was forced to adopt it too. Dont worry no gassings does not mean they were not holocausted. It just means they were not gassed. Not that I care what your religion is but I have invested a lot of time looking for hard evidence and cant turn up a damn thing, nothing what so ever. Seems you kids cant either!

So help your pal the whore he has been working hard and he cant find anything either and as we can see in thei thread neither can miles.

So maybe since they cant put up you might just have a good point, they should SHUT THE FUCK UP!



People believe a lot of ill gotten stupid shit that has no supporting evidence what so ever!



[Insert celebrity name here] endorses product X, so it must be good

“Research has shown that we automatically assign to good-looking individuals such favorable traits as talent, kindness, honesty, and intelligence . Furthermore, we make these judgments without being aware that physical attractiveness plays a role in the process. ” says Robert Cialdini, author of Influence: Science and Practice


Sun Revolves Around The Earth
I know Americans have a tendency to be a bit self-involved, but this is a bit much. According to a Gallup poll in 1999, 18% believed that the earth was the center of the universe. On a side note, 3% said "no opinion." Those folks could not be bothered with such pedestrian quandaries.

Oh, and for those 18% who believe this, that picture is Galileo. That guy knew his shit.

One in three Americans believe in Ghosts. All Americans believe in Ghost. Both have no business existing.

Dinosaurs and Humans, BFFs
As of a couple years ago, nearly one-third of Texans believed that dinosaurs and humans roamed the earth at the same time. Yup. Oh, and at least one Alaskan, as well.

Fox News Most Trusted Channel In News
Over half are convinced of this. Well, after that aliens stat, you can't be that shocked.

Americans love a good conspiracy theory [6 million 'gassed' jews] almost as much as we hate when actual, real-world evidence makes clear in no uncertain terms that said conspiracy theory is a complete and utter load of bullshit.

Someone else, surely, will help…

Image credit

The more people are present at any given situation or an emergency, the longer it takes to respond to the apparent situation/emergency founds this experiment done by J. Darley and B. Latane. This is what PSYblog has to say about the experiment:

Participants were invited into the lab under the pretext they were taking part in a discussion about ‘personal problems’. Participants were talking to a number of unknown others, varying from just one up to four in each of the experimental trials. Because of the sensitive nature of the discussion they were told the discussion would take place over an intercom. In fact this was just a ruse to ensure the participants couldn’t physically see the other people they were talking to. During the discussion one member of the group would suddenly appear to be having an epileptic seizure. The experimenters then measured how long it took for participants to go the person’s aid. They clearly found that the more people were involved in the group discussion, the slower participants were to respond to the apparent emergency.

Get comfortable not having an opinion

It’s important to be able to justify your opinions, but not everything is important enough for you to put a lot of research into. Too often, we feel obligated to have an opinion on every topic set before us. Don’t. If someone asks you your opinion about a topic you haven’t thought about before, don’t make one up on the spot- but admitting that you haven’t thought about it yet, you retain the ability to form a well-informed opinion later on.





How ever every one of you have contributed generously to prove you dont have so much as one scrap of evidence and in the meantime R0 posted both testimony and corroborating evidence

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

What drives Holocaust denial?

I wonder if it might be worth looking there.

why would anyone deny something you cant prove, which is you cannot prove so much as one jew was gassed, much less 6 million!

I on the other hand do not deny the holocaust I as WHICH ONE there were so many that adding up how many time jews were holocausted would mean no hjew would exist on the planet?

those who say I deny the holocaust are bold faced LAIRS most likely because they cant prove so much as one jew was gassed

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

I agree, pretty distasteful but I feel almost a duty in the face of it to let others know what the truth is, even though I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference to RealOne.

I personally have visited Dachau and have talked with several survivors of the concentration camps.

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

I will not stand by and watch my neighbors taken away by people who talk like this.

your incredulous rhetoric has nothing to do with truth, try again

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

You lying weasel, let's take a look at your "well researched post".

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
but the jews were extremeated before hitler rose to power, are you saying that it was really 12 million jews were gassed and no evidence to even prove one jew was gassed? WTF is up with that shit man?

Maybe it was a world wide conspiracy theory against the jews ya think?




So who the fuck exterminated 6 million jews in 1919?

and then Hitler exterminated 6 million more? WTF already?
...

If you look at your fast flashing GIF with underlining, one might think it says what you infer it says, if you only read the underlined parts.

But I was raised when the President could read at 1200 wpm and could speak in complete sentences and didn't just repeat over and over catch phrases and sound bites.

So, I was taught speed reading and topped out over average in speed and comprehension. Which means I was able to read what was said in your poor attempt at passing off lying propaganda and didn't just fall for the underlined parts.

So for those who want to get a closer look at what a lying weasel you really are; here of some of the actual thoughts of the article in context:
The title of the article is:
Ukrainian Jews Aim to Stop Pogroms

One of the sub-titles is:
Mass Meeting Hears That 127,000 Jews Have Been Killed and 6,000,000 Are in Peril

The paragraph that had your underlining was this:
"We come out now before the world with the determined slogan "Those pogroms must stop."' said the President in his annual message. "It is only a question of holding these facts continually before the civilized world; we must not permit the world to slumber. This fact that the population of 6,000.000 souls in Ukrainia and in Poland have received notice through action and by word that they are going to be completely exterminated - this fact stands before the whole world as the paramount issue of the present day." (underlining is that found in the Lying Weasel's GIF)

If anyone wants to read what the article actually says and not what this lying weasel wants you to think it says, you can find it here:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B00E0DE153AE03ABC4053DFBF668382609EDE

LIES your link isnt the NY times and you do not have to speed read more lies! geebus yer shit is weak, people being holcausted would be in peril.

and your bullshit link says 3 million not 6 million and your bullshit link does not say anything about extermination compared to the actual article what a fucking fraud

It did say one thing interesting Tales, that is TALES of 127,000 MASSACRE

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

concerning realone...

in so much as interacting with/witnessing someone on the internet constitutes "meeting" or "seeing" someone---ive never met or seen anyone before who is a holocaust denier. its pretty distasteful.

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

FR

I do not understand why you guys continue to provide him a platform for his filth. You surely don't think you are engaged in a reasonable discussion with a rational man. It would be far better if you ignored him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

That puzzles me too.

I agree, pretty distasteful but I feel almost a duty in the face of it to let others know what the truth is, even though I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference to RealOne.

I personally have visited Dachau and have talked with several survivors of the concentration camps.

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

I will not stand by and watch my neighbors taken away by people who talk like this.

I too have visited Dachau and talked with survivors. I too am disgusted by what I see posted on this board by Realone. But what I see posted by him is only what is quoted by others, as I have had him on hide since shortly after I first came on here.

I pegged him as clearly certifiable early on, and from what I can tell just from responses that I see to his posts, there is almost no one that agrees with anything he says. So I don't think that there is anyone on these boards that gain any enlightenment from anyone engaging with him. Only a lot of eye-rolling.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

quote:

Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

This Holocaust denial filth has a long history on these forums. You are being used, Miles. Can't you see how much RO is enjoying the joust? The most effective way to shut him up is through withholding response. Otherwise, you are simply assisting him in layering bullshit indignities over the horrible, inhumane deaths.

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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Also, I don't really feel that this is so much giving him a platform as it is standing up to hate speech and letting them know that no one going to leave them alone and let them feel empowered by lack of resistance.

This Holocaust denial filth has a long history on these forums. You are being used, Miles. Can't you see how much RO is enjoying the joust? The most effective way to shut him up is through withholding response. Otherwise, you are simply assisting him in layering bullshit indignities over the horrible, inhumane deaths.

Again, thanx for your concern but I think I can discern for myself to what extent I'm being used and personally it makes no difference to me whether RO is enjoying himself or not. I am not trying to "shut him up", I believe in free speech and he can say what ever he wants. Personally, up till now I have been using him, trying to get him to drag out the best he's got, seeing what it is and how I would answer it. But now it seems he has run out of anything "new" and has started with bigger and bigger fonts and brighter colors with nothing more to say and so for me continuing the "discussion" is pointless and I will now put him on hide like Wayward5oul suggested.
;-)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

My arrows are better are they not wreckage1?