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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/10/2017 8:34:27 PM   
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Back to Assad. Syria has not attacked any other country, therefore, we have no right to attack. We have no right to go there and try to depose the government, just like Venezuela, and a few other places. Like Nam, went and assassinated their President. If there is any international law this shit would be illegal.

They used illegal weapons that they had already been warned not to use. This isn't a declaration of war on Assad, this isn't a signal of US intent to colonize Syria and steal it away from Putin... it's a warning not to do it again.
What do you think would have happened if there had been no response?


Where does the US get the authority to warn them not to use illegal weapons in the first place?

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The US needs to back off and stop with all this interference. It costs more than we got and makes enemies out of alot of people. If those morons don't learn this soon it will be the end of us.

What world are you living in? Do you think Putin is going to stop interfering in US elections, now that he knows that so long as it benefits the winner, he'll be able to get away with it? Oh wait, you're one of those people who thinks that as long as we curl into a little ball and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist, nothing bad will happen.


Where does the authority come from allowing us to interject our will in the area?


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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 5:48:41 AM   
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a barrage of at least 59 (offensively named) Tomahawk cruise missiles

Offensively named, oh my!


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theres also the hubris involved in any particular out-group being offended on behalf of any particular in-group.

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 5:53:35 AM   
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Any of the trumptooners in this thread got an explanation of how the nine Syrian children killed by missiles that missed the airbase differ from the poor innocent babies el presidente was bleating about when he ordered the attack?

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 6:07:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Back to Assad. Syria has not attacked any other country, therefore, we have no right to attack. We have no right to go there and try to depose the government, just like Venezuela, and a few other places. Like Nam, went and assassinated their President. If there is any international law this shit would be illegal.

They used illegal weapons that they had already been warned not to use. This isn't a declaration of war on Assad, this isn't a signal of US intent to colonize Syria and steal it away from Putin... it's a warning not to do it again.
What do you think would have happened if there had been no response?


Where does the US get the authority to warn them not to use illegal weapons in the first place?

quote:

quote:

The US needs to back off and stop with all this interference. It costs more than we got and makes enemies out of alot of people. If those morons don't learn this soon it will be the end of us.

What world are you living in? Do you think Putin is going to stop interfering in US elections, now that he knows that so long as it benefits the winner, he'll be able to get away with it? Oh wait, you're one of those people who thinks that as long as we curl into a little ball and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist, nothing bad will happen.


Where does the authority come from allowing us to interject our will in the area?



The same exact place you get your personal authority to speak or to question or to act, or to right a wrong

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 6:52:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Back to Assad. Syria has not attacked any other country, therefore, we have no right to attack. We have no right to go there and try to depose the government, just like Venezuela, and a few other places. Like Nam, went and assassinated their President. If there is any international law this shit would be illegal.

They used illegal weapons that they had already been warned not to use. This isn't a declaration of war on Assad, this isn't a signal of US intent to colonize Syria and steal it away from Putin... it's a warning not to do it again.
What do you think would have happened if there had been no response?


Where does the US get the authority to warn them not to use illegal weapons in the first place?

quote:

quote:

The US needs to back off and stop with all this interference. It costs more than we got and makes enemies out of alot of people. If those morons don't learn this soon it will be the end of us.

What world are you living in? Do you think Putin is going to stop interfering in US elections, now that he knows that so long as it benefits the winner, he'll be able to get away with it? Oh wait, you're one of those people who thinks that as long as we curl into a little ball and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist, nothing bad will happen.


Where does the authority come from allowing us to interject our will in the area?



The same exact place you get your personal authority to speak or to question or to act, or to right a wrong

Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 7:11:52 AM   
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Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 7:37:24 AM   
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Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.


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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 7:44:41 AM   
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Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.



"...inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

The UN encourages gassing civilians now?

Who knew

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 7:52:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.



"...inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

The UN encourages gassing civilians now?

Who knew

And you pulled that out of where? Citation in full?

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 8:21:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.



"...inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

The UN encourages gassing civilians now?

Who knew

And you pulled that out of where? Citation in full?


Your own citation john

Explain what is so "inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations" with interfering with the gassing of civilians

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 8:51:26 AM   
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70 strikes on Yemen in the last month. I wonder what the civilian toll was there.
But my mind is like that, it wonders what the civilian toll the world is over.

You draw the line at Nuclear and chemical weapons.
But you have to also draw it with children, sexual slavery rape – what about famine?

Casualties of the Syrian Civil War

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 9:05:24 AM   
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Syrian refugee:

"THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU MR. TRUMP!!! FINALLY!!! "

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 9:07:42 AM   
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Syrian refugee:

"THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU MR. TRUMP!!! FINALLY!!! "

Why should anybody pay attention to what a genocidal moslem scumbag who wants to destroy western civilisation has to say?

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 9:19:48 AM   
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Where does the US get the authority to warn them not to use illegal weapons in the first place?


Where do the police get the authority to arrest you if you commit a crime?

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Where does the authority come from allowing us to interject our will in the area?


I think the fact that so many of our allies have supported the move despite the tensions caused by Trump's election speaks volumes.

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 9:39:12 AM   
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Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.



"...inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

The UN encourages gassing civilians now?

Who knew

And you pulled that out of where? Citation in full?


Your own citation john

Explain what is so "inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations" with interfering with the gassing of civilians

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All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations


It is a sad commentary on the failure of the school teachers of Australia that you can not parse the parts of a sentence. How embarrassing for your nation that you are out here demonstrating your inability to read.

Subject: All Members Verb: shall refrain . . from threat or use of force . . . or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

The bold print expands the verb. Members shall refrain from threat or use of force or any other manner, etc. . . . like for example blockade or sanction.

The phrase has nothing to do with "gassing of civilians." The option in the case of gassing is to file a complaint with the Security Council or with the International Court at the Hague. Unfortunately, neither of these options is likely to be successful.

Chapter VII, Article 51 Each Member shall have the right to act in self defense if they are attacked . . . prelude to action by the Security Council.

Syria has the right to strike back at the United States but the United States has no such right since it was not attacked by Syria.

Take a few years off from these Boards please and go back to Middle School. God, I hate dealing with these fucking grade school drop outs.



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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 10:47:34 AM   
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I am still uneasy on this one, very.

Why would they unleash, what was effetively, a bucket of hairspray onto their own people and now.

I get the mad bampot bombed the air field: well at least half the cruise missiles made it guffaws to boost his single figure ratings.

And now there are allegations that Russia bombed the hospital to try and cover up the chemical hairspray attack

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 10:50:04 AM   
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One thing that it might be worth bearing in mind about this is that Putin is now allegedly negotiating with Assad to sell him anti missile air defence systems.
When you run a protection racket, you try to make it look like somebody else has put a brick through the shop window, don't you?


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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 10:58:00 AM   
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Cruise missiles fly to low - if the American jackals fire 50, and even if half of them made their target, guffaws guffaws then what Russia has I doubt would even knock out one of those twenty five. Heh what happened to the other 25 Americashire Jackals guffaws some more.

Does Syria have money? I thought it was just a pile of rubble that none of us can find on a a map, least of all the lying illiterate fuk

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 10:59:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Not true. The behavior of nations is governed by the Articles of the United Nations. Either we comply by those international agreements or declare ourselves a rogue nation and get the fuck out of the organization.


Cite the chapter and verse that disallows any country from acting where Barack Obama has failed, and where the United Nations have failed

I triple dog dare ya

UN Charter: Chapter I; Article 2; Paragraph 4.



"...inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."

The UN encourages gassing civilians now?

Who knew

And you pulled that out of where? Citation in full?


Your own citation john

Explain what is so "inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations" with interfering with the gassing of civilians

quote:


All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations


It is a sad commentary on the failure of the school teachers of Australia that you can not parse the parts of a sentence. How embarrassing for your nation that you are out here demonstrating your inability to read.

Subject: All Members Verb: shall refrain . . from threat or use of force . . . or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

The bold print expands the verb. Members shall refrain from threat or use of force or any other manner, etc. . . . like for example blockade or sanction.

The phrase has nothing to do with "gassing of civilians." The option in the case of gassing is to file a complaint with the Security Council or with the International Court at the Hague. Unfortunately, neither of these options is likely to be successful.

Chapter VII, Article 51 Each Member shall have the right to act in self defense if they are attacked . . . prelude to action by the Security Council.

Syria has the right to strike back at the United States but the United States has no such right since it was not attacked by Syria.

Take a few years off from these Boards please and go back to Middle School. God, I hate dealing with these fucking grade school drop outs.




Do you have to work at being this thick, or does it come to you naturally

Nothing about destroying an airfield and other things that are used to gas civilians, is inconsistent with the purpose of the United Nations

In fact, that is what they are supposed to do

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RE: U.S. Attacks Syria - 4/11/2017 11:04:22 AM   
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Democrats turn on Gabbard amid Syria stance


Top Democrats are taking aim at one of their own, assailing Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard for appearing to defend Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad against allegations his regime dumped chemical weapons on a rebel-held area.

Center for American Progress head Neera Tanden, who was a trusted adviser to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, and former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean lit into Gabbard on Twitter for her Syria stance.

“This is a disgrace. Gabbard should not be in Congress,” Dean tweeted on Saturday.

More here


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