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Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that causes b... - 4/8/2017 10:41:12 PM   
heavyblinker


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EPA scientists, however, had previously determined that the chemical — which is already banned in household settings — was indeed dangerous to children and farm workers. A study at Columbia University found traces of chlorpyrifos in the umbilical chords of infants, and it found that even a small amount of exposure could have measurable impacts on a person's brain.

Environmental groups described the EPA ruling as unconscionable. But Dow Chemical, which makes the product, praised the decision. (Dow has argued that the science regarding risks associated with chlorpyrifos is inconclusive.)

The pesticide, which has been in use since 1965, has sickened dozens of farmworkers in recent years. Traces have also been found in waterways, threatening fish populations. Regulators also say overuse could make targeted insects immune to the pesticide.
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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/8/2017 11:56:37 PM   
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According to the article, the chemical has been in use for more than fifty years. Recently some farm workers were sickened? That's the case? Well, not quite....

At age 7, the average IQ of children who had been exposed to high levels of chlorpyrifos was a few percentage points lower than children who hadn't been exposed to much of the chemical at all.

Children exposed to high levels of the chemical. Can you think of any other chemicals that children should not be exposed to high levels of? Under the sink, maybe? Also, "a few percentage points" is within the margin of error for even the most reliable IQ tests.

For example, a Full Scale [WAIS] IQ of 110 has a 95% probability of falling between 105 and 115 IQ points. ~Source

From your link:

In its decision, the EPA didn't exactly repudiate its earlier scientific findings. But the agency did say that there's still a lot of scientific uncertainty about the risks of chlorpyrifos, and it said that because of that uncertainty, the court had no right to set a firm deadline for a decision. A federal court had ordered the EPA to decide by midnight on Friday whether to ban chlorpyrifos. The EPA says it will keep studying the chemical.

So basically, the EPA is declining to rush to judgment. Goodness knows, we can't have that. Launch the missiles!

K.

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/9/2017 2:52:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		First study finds neonic pesticides in US drinking water

Small traces of the world's most widely used insecticides have been detected in tap water for the first time.

Samples taken by scientists in the US state of Iowa showed that levels of neonicotinoid chemicals remained constant despite treatment.

However drinking water treated using a different method of filtration showed big reductions in neonic levels.

Scientists say they cannot draw any conclusions relating to human health but argue that further study is needed.

You are not familiar with Flint water scandal are you?


Anyway its clearly all fake fake news so sad, or a hoax, or a unicorn plot, or so called scientists, or left wing media, insane made up shit

There is still lead everywhere too from petrol/gasoline, that goes unreported and theve now decided diesel is dangerous - which it is.

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/9/2017 6:35:33 AM   
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Thank you, Kirata

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/9/2017 8:18:25 AM   
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So, we can stop panicking now, finally

Thank you, Kirata


Is it true that you import your drinking water from flint?

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 3:48:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

So, we can stop panicking now, finally

Thank you, Kirata


You know even DDT is not really banned. It can be used but not at people's houses. The PCBs in electrical transformers is not totally banned, but its us is limited to certain applictions. The real problem was when it leaked, and of course disposal.

What Monsanto does is something that should be banned or very limited, but it is not. Who passed the Monsanto Protection Act, and who signed it ? Not Trump.

The EPAA has never been al that effective. Maybe they got rid of the burning river syndrome, but by and large they have fucked with people trying to make them tske down dams built by beavers, preventing people from draining swamps and shit like that. This is not what Nixon envisioned when he created the agency and I think it certainly needs less funding.

They dumped so much paint in lake Erie that the fish are damnear uneatable. Everyone fishes in the rivers around here, that is as long as they are not on fire. Burns the fishing line :-) The agency should not be totally abolished but their scope and power must be kept in hand. They have overstepped their bounds many times.

In fact the whole government needs to be limited. Tjhey tbink they can do whatever they want. Even governments of other countries do not think that, snd thst is without our oh so wonderful Constitution which was specifically written to prevent this type of shit. But we have been electing criminals for a long time and that is what they do.

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 4:14:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

You are not familiar with Flint water scandal are you?

Yeah okay, let's play....

5,000 Scottish homes hit with contaminated water

Authorities have warned residents that the water is so contaminated it is not safe to drink even after boiling



Scottish jackals, poisoning their own people!

K.

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 5:08:51 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Timofeeva, Olga A.; Levin, Edward D. (2010). "Lasting Behavioral Consequences of Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure During Development". In R. Krieger (ed.). Hayes' Handbook of Pesticide Toxicology (Third Edition). New York: Academic Press. pp. 837–846. ISBN 978-0-12-374367-1.

Muñoz-Quezada, Maria Teresa; Lucero, Boris A.; Barr, Dana B.; Steenland, Kyle; Levy, Karen; Ryan, P. Barry; Iglesias, Veronica; Alvarado, Sergio; Concha, Carlos; Rojas, Evelyn; Vega, Catalina (December 2013). "Neurodevelopmental effects in children associated with exposure to organophosphate pesticides: A systematic review". NeuroToxicology. 39: 158–168. doi:10.1016/j.neuro.2013.09.003. ISSN 0161-813X. PMC 3899350Freely accessible. PMID 24121005. Retrieved 2014-01-17.

These studies find other physical infirmities in children exposed.

The anecdote is not the synecdoche. One study where you can whittle away at the findings as being 'in the margin of error' is not the end all. No biggie though spray it on your children and grandchildren, its a good deal, keeps bugs off.

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 5:38:00 PM   
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spray it on your children and grandchildren, its a good deal, keeps bugs off.

And, too, remember not to wash fruit or vegetables before eating them.

K.


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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 5:40:32 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		we should avoid that at all costs, because running them thru the salad spinner not only is going to be real effective, but its socialist.

Yeah, this here carrot has 2,4-D in it, well, goddammit, put it under the hot water then.....

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RE: Pruitt's new EPA refuses to ban pesticide that caus... - 4/11/2017 5:51:11 PM   
Kirata


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Granting that the data on organophosphate pesticides establishes toxicity, that's true of many things in common use. If a chemical is found to be hazardous even when proper safety precautions are employed, then I'm all for banning it. But I haven't seen that established yet, and citing studies that nobody can evaluate without purchasing access isn't going to further the discussion.

K.











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