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respectmen -> RE: Pro dommes/prostitutes who cheat the system (4/13/2017 3:06:15 AM)
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Finanlly back on my laptop. Now I can reply properly.
needles
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If you really had such an issue with what this woman is supposedly doing you'd have done it when she was your friend, but instead you wait years, and then act like the woman hating vindictive little coward you are to do it. That's the issue we all have with you.
You're expecting me to do what you would do in the situation. Whatever you have in mind,that's what you would do, that's not what I would do. I'm not you, thank goodness. I'm not going to repeat myself. I have stated my reasons, you can think what the fuck you want, no skin off of my ass. The truth that seems to annoy you is still there and won't go away. The said woman is a welfare fraud and plenty of other pro dommes are too. You hate that truth, don't you? That's why you so desperately try to invalidate me for reporting the bitch and having such views on cheating welfare queens in general. Tough titties bitch.
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You are a low life piece of scum trying to act as though you are doing the world a favour. As usual though, you ignore my point about THE MEN THAT DO THIS TOO!
WHAT ABOUT THE MEN??????????????????
Come on, answer the question, why is it ALWAYS ONLY ABOUT THE FEMALES??????
Oh, I can play this game too!
Where are you to shout down women who complain about men only wanting a fetish delivery system? Ya know, tell them that they're a low life piece of scum, slimely little cowards, men haters etc because they haven't added that some women also only seek a fetish delivery system too.
Where are you to shout down women and tell them "what about male victims too" when a rant regarding non consent in BDSM on women comes up? Ya know, tell them that they're a low life piece of scum, slimely little cowards, men haters etc
Where are you to shout down women and tell them "what about male victims too" when a rant regarding rape on women comes up? Ya know, tell them that they're a low life piece of scum, slimely little cowards, men haters etc
Where are you to shout down women and tell them "what about male victims too" when a rant regarding domestic violence on women comes up? Ya know, tell them that they're a low life piece of scum, slimely little cowards, men haters etc
What do you think of the vast majority of feminists? They only seem to protest against sexism against women, not sexism against men. They only seem to protest against male privileges while ignoring female privileges.
Double standards, double standards, double standards, as usual. You or any woman is not a gender hater to leave men out of the picture with an issue while any male is if they leave women out of the picture with an issue.
If a male claimed 99 percent of women on this site are anything negative, you would be one of the first to condemn it. When Lisasadistic says 99 percent of men on this site are terrible horrible people who just want to use women and not treat them as humans, you give it a pass.
You piece of scum! You slimely little coward! You fucking misandrist!
Gotta larf
What I have observed for many years, it's deemed inappropriate to come into a discussion about violence against women or rape against women and express what about male victims. While it's don't deemed as inappropriate to come into a discussion about violence against men or rape against men and express what about female victims.
Feminists have even coined up a phrase for it, "what about teh menz". That phrase is used when men come into a feminist discussion about women's issues and start implying that men are victims too.
That phrase isn't used as much as it used to be used by feminists for some reason. Anyway, if you don't know about it, simply do a google on "what about teh menz"
What are your thoughts on these feminists?
So why is it only about the females as you asked???
I'm not denying that pro male doms exist but I just never see them. I honestly haven't seen one on this site or fetlife. I know they do exist but they are a very rare kind. On the other hand, pro dommes are very plentiful on this site. There are more non pro dommes than pro dommes on fetlife while this site is a different story. I would guess probably nearly half of the dominant women on this site are pro dommes and/or financial dommes. This place flourishes with such dominants on the female side.
So the chances are very high for such pro dommes I talk about to see this thread. The chances of a male pro dom who is a welfare fraud to see this thread is close to zero. Probably one out of 10,000 male dominants on this site would be pro dominants.
Now how many regulars would you estimate hang in this forum and not just collarspace? Probably 100 or so? The vast majority of the members of this site don't even bother looking in these forums on a regular basis. So this even lowers the chances more of a male pro dom seeing this thread.
My point is, I'm aiming at who I know will likely be the audience viewing this thread. Between female pro dommes and male pro doms, 99.999 percent of that audience, or more likely, 100 percent of that audience viewing this thread will be pro dommes rather than pro doms.
So this is basically my reason why I singled out pro dommes and not pro doms.
Any more questions? Have a good night and choke on a fat one!
Ladypact
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We have completely different experiences on this. One of the reasons SHARP determined my stalker to be verified was because of his own journal entries admitting to the things he did. The equivalent would be the person you are referencing actually posting that she had a paid session or a link with a reference from a client that discussed payment rendered. Even then, it has to be investigated.
Firstly, you're speaking about a different country which may handle things different compared to Australia. Secondly, you're speaking about a different issue. Yours is stalking, the one I'm talking about is welfare fraud. So you're basically comparing apples to oranges.
The people who investigate welfare fraud in down under can be pretty aggressive. As I mentioned earlier, they even secretly video tape people to build a case. If they go into these lengths, they would also investigate her escort phone number.
Look at it this way, if I raped a woman, there is no physical evidence that I raped her but I bragged on about it in my profile and in my journals. What would the authorities do? Further investigate and dig hard to warrant a charge or arrest me on the spot just for that?
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To the best of my recollection, my SHARP advocate did not create a Fet profile and this was before Fet had the verification system for new accounts. Fetlife has a very specific policy about working with law enforcement, so all SHARP had to do was contact the Admin.
The person I chat with on the phone didn't have to talk to the admins. All he did was create a profile to look at what I'm talking about.
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Wants doesn't mean she's getting it. That's part of what I don't think you're understanding.
Okay, so if I claimed that I want to commit a crime and the authorities saw it, you believe they will just turn a blind eye and do nothing? Especially a crime that can be a jailable offense or a harsh punishment one way or the other...in other words, it's considered a serious offense. This isn't something petty.
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This is more of what you're not getting.
If you did this, I'm just not seeing how you were forced into it to protect your physical safety or some other thing that was of the same magnitude. How much monetary loss do you think this person has caused you?
To me, it sounds like you did this on a whim. It wasn't because you were actually harmed. You did it because you wanted to, rather than because you had to. I'm just not seeing the 'didn't have a choice' factor.
I simply did it because it's wrong in many ways. Our welfare system is slowly dying due to people who abuse it. Australia isn't as generous as it used to be because of the crap that goes on. The age to get retirement pension is on the rise simply because the welfare system is draining. When you're out of work, this system is all you got to keep living, pay rent/mortgage, put food on the table. The more people who abuse the system, the less the system can do in the future of those who are really and truly in need.
One person who abuses the system may appear that it doesn't hurt. If you let one slide, that means you have to let everyone slide or it isn't fair! Letting one slide just encourages to let others slide and then it does truly hurt when multiple people are abusing the system.
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I find it impossible to understand why you are proud of this.
I'm also a little disgusted. As hard as it is for people to actually get some people removed from the kink community that really SHOULD be, people who have mountains of proof of about their consent violators, sometimes where there have been multiple victims of assault, or situations where entire communities are afraid of a person... Yet, you make one phone call and presto!
Well I didn't mean fetlife removing her, I meant she would probably remove her profile due to being butthurt. Not if that, change it so it's not obvious that she's a pro domme and prostitute.
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I'm a priorities person. A person receiving benefits and doing pro work on the side falls way behind what I consider to be the important things in the kink community. There's a whole bunch of stuff that comes before that to me.
It's still doing a serious offense to the law and it hurts the welfare system when it's abused. As I said earlier, one person may not hurt, but to let one slide, you are suggesting to let them all slide which indeed does do harm.
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Let me know when you have a raging problem with some old lady who babysits twice a week and gets a few dollars for it.
I would still be offended. She is breaking the exact law except she is doing a different profession. How does profession make the crime less bad or more bad? It's still the same crime at the end of the day which is welfare fraud. The authorities and courts wouldn't agree with you, that's for sure.
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Cool. I'll see you on the next thread where we're discussing consent violations and how you support removing those folks from the community. Do you think you can do it regardless of the genders of the perpetrator and the victim?
I never demanded people to be removed from communities for welfare fraud. I'm guessing this comes back to my earlier post where I mentioned if I see her profile is deleted...which I explained my reason why I said that above. So no need to explain again.
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I'm not making it about you. A part of this topic is about what is worthwhile to out a person over. Your standards are just way lower than mine.
I already explained that.
UllrsIshtar
Thank you for posting the most intelligent and reasonable response on this thread.
DocStrange
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Have you reported the boys around your area in the summer cutting grass to the IRS for not paying Taxes?
Have you reported your local waitress for not reporting the cash portion of her tips to the IRS?
Have you reported your local paperboy for not reporting his tips as income to the IRS?
Have you reported your local bartender for not reporting his/her cash tips as income to the IRS?
Have you reported the local baby sitter for not paying tax on the baby sitting money they earn?
If you have not then you are a fucking hypocrite for only picking one 1 person when you already know many others who are not paying "their" fair share according to you.
Firstly, in Australia, tipping is very rare. It does exist in rare instances. So your tipping stance does not really hold to someone who lives in Australia.
Anyway, if I could easily obtain evidence that someone, anyone, any gender, any age, any race, who does any kind of job, is cheating the system, I would be right there to report their muthfucking ass!
The only reason why I reported this certain woman I mentioned is because it was piss easy to do regarding the evidence behind it.
That said, are you suggesting that just because other types of people cheat the system, that must mean it's okay for pro dommes to do it too? How will that hold in the real world? Meaning, how will that hold in court? lol
That makes as much sense as me saying just because other men rape and beat up women and get away with it, so should I be able to do that and get away with it.
You see, what you are saying, only you and the small circle of "anti respectmen" posters in this forum take on your stance. The people in the real world, outside of this forum, in the justice system, have the same opinion as me. So it's fucking very laughable to consider that I'm in the wrong and the outside world is in the wrong while your small circle jerk of buddies on this forum are right.
Respectmen for the win. Laughs
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