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BoscoX -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 9:31:26 AM)

Yeah yeah yeah - eeeeeeeeeveryone's a faggot. You've posted that a million times

Quite the zinger, gramps

You're such a sharp guy...




DaddySatyr -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 9:31:59 AM)


Ahhhh! The "Hillary isn't guilty" argument. I LOVE it. Transparency? Indeed which translates to: "Here's what we did. Here's how the she-cunt violated the law and here's why we're going to treat her differently".

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ORIGINAL: James Comey 05 JUL 2016 (emphasis is mine)

Good morning. I’m here to give you an update on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.
After a tremendous amount of work over the last year, the FBI is completing its investigation and referring the case to the Department of Justice for a prosecutive decision. What I would like to do today is tell you three things: what we did; what we found; and what we are recommending to the Department of Justice.

This will be an unusual statement in at least a couple ways. First, I am going to include more detail about our process than I ordinarily would, because I think the American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest. Second, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say.

I want to start by thanking the FBI employees who did remarkable work in this case. Once you have a better sense of how much we have done, you will understand why I am so grateful and proud of their efforts.

So, first, what we have done:

The investigation began as a referral from the Intelligence Community Inspector General in connection with Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail server during her time as Secretary of State. The referral focused on whether classified information was transmitted on that personal system.
Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

Consistent with our counterintelligence responsibilities, we have also investigated to determine whether there is evidence of computer intrusion in connection with the personal e-mail server by any foreign power, or other hostile actors.

I have so far used the singular term, “e-mail server,” in describing the referral that began our investigation. It turns out to have been more complicated than that. Secretary Clinton used several different servers and administrators of those servers during her four years at the State Department, and used numerous mobile devices to view and send e-mail on that personal domain. As new servers and equipment were employed, older servers were taken out of service, stored, and decommissioned in various ways. Piecing all of that back together—to gain as full an understanding as possible of the ways in which personal e-mail was used for government work—has been a painstaking undertaking, requiring thousands of hours of effort.

For example, when one of Secretary Clinton’s original personal servers was decommissioned in 2013, the e-mail software was removed. Doing that didn’t remove the e-mail content, but it was like removing the frame from a huge finished jigsaw puzzle and dumping the pieces on the floor. The effect was that millions of e-mail fragments end up unsorted in the server’s unused—or “slack”—space. We searched through all of it to see what was there, and what parts of the puzzle could be put back together.

FBI investigators have also read all of the approximately 30,000 e-mails provided by Secretary Clinton to the State Department in December 2014. Where an e-mail was assessed as possibly containing classified information, the FBI referred the e-mail to any U.S. government agency that was a likely “owner” of information in the e-mail, so that agency could make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information at the time it was sent or received, or whether there was reason to classify the e-mail now, even if its content was not classified at the time it was sent (that is the process sometimes referred to as “up-classifying”).

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.

The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014. We found those additional e-mails in a variety of ways. Some had been deleted over the years and we found traces of them on devices that supported or were connected to the private e-mail domain. Others we found by reviewing the archived government e-mail accounts of people who had been government employees at the same time as Secretary Clinton, including high-ranking officials at other agencies, people with whom a Secretary of State might naturally correspond.

This helped us recover work-related e-mails that were not among the 30,000 produced to State. Still others we recovered from the laborious review of the millions of e-mail fragments dumped into the slack space of the server decommissioned in 2013.


With respect to the thousands of e-mails we found that were not among those produced to State, agencies have concluded that three of those were classified at the time they were sent or received, one at the Secret level and two at the Confidential level. There were no additional Top Secret e-mails found. Finally, none of those we found have since been “up-classified.”

I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed. Because she was not using a government account—or even a commercial account like Gmail—there was no archiving at all of her e-mails, so it is not surprising that we discovered e-mails that were not on Secretary Clinton’s system in 2014, when she produced the 30,000 e-mails to the State Department.

It could also be that some of the additional work-related e-mails we recovered were among those deleted as “personal” by Secretary Clinton’s lawyers when they reviewed and sorted her e-mails for production in 2014.

The lawyers doing the sorting for Secretary Clinton in 2014 did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails, as we did for those available to us; instead, they relied on header information and used search terms to try to find all work-related e-mails among the reportedly more than 60,000 total e-mails remaining on Secretary Clinton’s personal system in 2014. It is highly likely their search terms missed some work-related e-mails, and that we later found them, for example, in the mailboxes of other officials or in the slack space of a server.

It is also likely that there are other work-related e-mails that they did not produce to State and that we did not find elsewhere, and that are now gone because they deleted all e-mails they did not return to State, and the lawyers cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery.

We have conducted interviews and done technical examination to attempt to understand how that sorting was done by her attorneys. Although we do not have complete visibility because we are not able to fully reconstruct the electronic record of that sorting, we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort.

And, of course, in addition to our technical work, we interviewed many people, from those involved in setting up and maintaining the various iterations of Secretary Clinton’s personal server, to staff members with whom she corresponded on e-mail, to those involved in the e-mail production to State, and finally, Secretary Clinton herself.

Last, we have done extensive work to understand what indications there might be of compromise by hostile actors in connection with the personal e-mail operation.

That’s what we have done. Now let me tell you what we found:

Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. (See: Note 1 - MPC)

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.


Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.

So that’s what we found. Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the Department of Justice:

In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent (See: Note 1, again - MPC). Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.
I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation—including people in government—but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and the FBI found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. I couldn’t be prouder to be part of this organization.


Note 1: The statute that would cover "intent" in fact, says just the opposite that intent is not part of the element of violation of that statute:

18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) says:

quote:


(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


I don't see "intent" in there. In fact, I see "gross negligence". I also see "destroyed", which not only violates this code, but it speaks to FOIA regs.

Note 2:

quote:

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:

“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”

According to the original story on Clinton's emails published in The New York Times:

"Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.
In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department."


Then, there's the FOIA issues:

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Veterans for a Strong America has filed a lawsuit against the State Department over potential violations of FOIA. Joel Arends, chairman of the non-profit group, explained to the Washington Examiner that their FOIA request over the Benghazi affair specifically asked for any personal email accounts Secretary Clinton may have used:

“'At this point in time, I think we're the only ones that specifically asked for both her personal and government email and phone logs,' Arends said of his group's Benghazi-related request.”

MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell believes that the use of a personal emails server appears to be a preemptive move, specifically designed to circumvent FOIA:

“'Hillary Clinton’s system was designed to defy Freedom of Information Act requests, which is designed to defy the law.'”


That one speaks for itself, but there's a tier system in our criminal justice system and Hillary skated, plain and simple.

James Comey's statement came from: HERE.

The rest of the quoted information came from: HERE



Michael




mnottertail -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 9:50:42 AM)

AH, the old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you.




BoscoX -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 9:58:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

AH, the old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you.


Yeah yeah yeah gramps, you've postyed that a million times

Eeeeeeeeeeeveryone's a faggot

Hilarious




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 10:08:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

To get a warrant indicates probable cause.

That's at the least justification for an investigation. If there's nothing there, awesome. If there is, it's important we discover and address it.


All that is needed for salacious headlines in the Washington Post all but accusing the President of being in a Crazy Lucy faggot meme with Putin, or your sharp grampa felchguzzler friend to repeatedly post how anyone dissenting from your rigid Marxist lockstep must be performing gay sex acts on everyone

In the real world, as opposed to your cartoon world, a person is entirely innocent until proven guilty

Not only is there probably cause, but the FISA judges are assigned by: Chief Justice Roberts.

I'm not aware of Roberts being a rigid Marxist performing gay sex acts on everyone, but then I don't read Breitbart, so who knows.

I do know there's probably cause. That's at least justification for an investigation, see what's going on or not going on, settle it.




WickedsDesire -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 10:12:55 AM)

Who the hell is Hillary and what country does that mad she cunt bitch run - what pathetic wretch pulled that argument out from his bucket of heaving jobbies.

And the orange infidel what off him, and the fact he can only tell the truth 4% of all time -and i think that was for a brokey clock is right twice a day

4% guffaws guffaws

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/




mnottertail -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 10:53:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

AH, the old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you.


Yeah yeah yeah gramps, you've postyed that a million times

Eeeeeeeeeeeveryone's a faggot

Hilarious

[sm=bust.gif] [sm=runaway.gif] [sm=bust.gif] [sm=runaway.gif] [sm=bust.gif] [sm=runaway.gif]

You can see them nutsuckers felchgobbling and shitting their pants from Russia.

[sm=lingua.gif] Tongue that putijizz retarded pedophile nutsucker snowflake.




BoscoX -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 12:59:42 PM)

It was a fishing expedition, LAST SUMMER. Obama spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary

The only crime uncovered, illegal leaks of classified information by Obama people to crony Democrat propaganda outets about innocent American civilians

Hang the perps in public with dental floss




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 1:11:15 PM)

Have you explained to Chief Justice Roberts that the judges he assigned to FISA aren't doing their jobs properly?

Or perhaps he assigned judges who properly did their jobs and followed the law.

In which case, there's probable cause. That's the reason for the investigation.

So let's finish the investigation and move on.

If nothing--awesome.

If something--how's that go? Lock 'em up? (I know you're big on using people's hypocrisy against them)




WickedsDesire -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 1:19:49 PM)

for unhinged hysterical snow flake boscox and followers of that bucket of howling jobbies

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

one example how many more would you like?




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 7:00:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

It was a fishing expedition, LAST SUMMER. Obama spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary

The only crime uncovered, illegal leaks of classified information by Obama people to crony Democrat propaganda outets about innocent American civilians

Hang the perps in public with dental floss



Why do you keep saying this? This just silly.




vincentML -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/12/2017 8:28:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

It was a fishing expedition, LAST SUMMER. Obama spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary

The only crime uncovered, illegal leaks of classified information by Obama people to crony Democrat propaganda outets about innocent American civilians

Hang the perps in public with dental floss



Why do you keep saying this? This just silly.

That's why he keeps saying that . . . he is just silly.




bounty44 -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 4:16:45 AM)

yeah, but Michael that was all just "hysterical cockgargling"

and then to make it worse, as if he weren't a big enough fool already, mnottertroll believes "old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you"

hey vile critter parts---how about "not guilty" not only because they are presumed innocent until proven otherwise, but in the court of general opinion, because there's no evidence of a crime.

the irony lost on you I suppose?

so actual acts and tons of evidence = nothing there and no actual acts and no evidence (at this point) = trumps in bed with Russia, our country is being undermined, and the right is so partisan we cant see it.




Musicmystery -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 5:09:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

It was a fishing expedition, LAST SUMMER. Obama spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary

The only crime uncovered, illegal leaks of classified information by Obama people to crony Democrat propaganda outets about innocent American civilians

Hang the perps in public with dental floss



Why do you keep saying this? This just silly.

It's what trolls do.




Lucylastic -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 5:12:13 AM)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/12/former-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafortwill-register-foreign/

Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort will register with the justice department as a foreign agent for lobbying work he did on behalf of political interests in Ukraine, led at the time by a pro-Russian political party, his spokesman said on Wednesday.

Mr Manafort is the second Trump campaign adviser to have to register as a foreign agent since the election. The confirmation that he intends to register comes as the Trump administration has been facing heavy scrutiny over the foreign ties of former campaign advisers and other Trump associates.

By registering retroactively, Mr Manafort will be acknowledging that he failed to properly disclose his work to the justice department as required by federal law.


Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.
7:08 AM - 15 Feb 2017


The justice department rarely prosecutes such violations of the Foreign Agent Registration Act, but Mr Manafort will now have to publicly and specifically detail his foreign agent work. That includes which American government agencies and officials he sought to influence, how he was paid and the details of contracts he signed as part of the work. Before, Mr Manafort had been able to keep much of that information out of public view.

Mr Manafort began discussions with the government about his lobbying activities after Mr Trump hired him in March 2016, Mr Manafort spokesman Jason Maloni said, although it was unclear whether those conversations occurred before or after Mr Trump forced Mr Manafort to resign in August. Asked by The Associated Press on Wednesday whether Mr Manafort intends to register as a foreign agent, Mr Maloni said: "Yes, he is registering."

Mr Manafort's resignation from the campaign came immediately after the AP had reported that Mr Manafort's consulting firm between 2012 and 2014 orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation on behalf of Ukraine's ruling political party without disclosing that it was working as a foreign agent.

Sean Spicer describes Trump associates believed to be investigated for Russian links as 'hangers on'
00:57
Mr Manafort's decision to register as a foreign agent comes about one month after former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn registered with the justice department for work he did that could have benefited the Turkish government. The filing came after the president fired Mr Flynn in February, saying that he had misled administration top officials about his contacts with Russia.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions about whether Mr Trump was aware that Mr Manafort needed to register as a foreign agent.

Earlier on Wednesday, one of the Washington lobbying firms that worked on the influence campaign under the direction of Mr Manafort and his former deputy, Rick Gates, itself registered after the fact with the justice department as a foreign agent. The Podesta Group acknowledged its work could have principally benefited Ukraine's government. The other firm involved, Mercury LLC, later said it also would register soon as a foreign agent for its work.

Who is Michael Flynn?
00:50
Gates did not respond to text messages left by the AP on Wednesday. His voicemail box was full.

The Podesta Group and Mercury had previously disclosed their lobbying work to Congress under the Lobbying Disclosure Act, but neither firm had registered with the Justice Department. A foreign agent registration requires lobbying firms to disclose more details about their work than is required under the congressional registration.

The Podesta Group disclosed details of $1.2 million (£1ml) worth of lobbying it did from 2012 through 2014 on behalf of a Brussels-based nonprofit, the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine.

In a statement to the AP, Kimberley Fritts, CEO of the Podesta Group, said that the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine had certified to the Podesta Group that it was not a vehicle of a foreign government or political party, which is why the lobbying firm only previously registered with Congress. Fritts did not say what information had been brought to light to change that determination.

The European Centre did not immediately respond to phone messages and emails from the AP.




mnottertail -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 5:38:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

It was a fishing expedition, LAST SUMMER. Obama spied on the Trump campaign for Hillary

The only crime uncovered, illegal leaks of classified information by Obama people to crony Democrat propaganda outets about innocent American civilians

Hang the perps in public with dental floss

Well, now its Il Douchovitch spying on the Il Douchovitch campaign for Il Douchovitch, because the investigation is still going on and thre crimes of the leaky mingeboxes in the whitehouse. And Amercan citizens have to watch these leaky nutsuckers mingeboxes gush classified information illegally for the crony nutsuckers propaganda agenda.




bounty44 -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 5:51:07 AM)

fellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllch gobble!




BoscoX -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 6:03:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

yeah, but Michael that was all just "hysterical cockgargling"

and then to make it worse, as if he weren't a big enough fool already, mnottertroll believes "old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you"

hey vile critter parts---how about "not guilty" not only because they are presumed innocent until proven otherwise, but in the court of general opinion, because there's no evidence of a crime.

the irony lost on you I suppose?

so actual acts and tons of evidence = nothing there and no actual acts and no evidence (at this point) = trumps in bed with Russia, our country is being undermined, and the right is so partisan we cant see it.


Hillary literally took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Russians as she approved a uranium deal giving them access to a large percentage of American uranium mines as Secretary of State

Obama was caught on a hot mic sending a message to Putin that he would be able to give away our nuclear protection more easily "after the election"

Leftists scum felchguszzle Putin jizz, and you always know what they are up to because that is what they accuse you of doing




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 6:38:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

yeah, but Michael that was all just "hysterical cockgargling"

and then to make it worse, as if he weren't a big enough fool already, mnottertroll believes "old Il Douchovitch and goons and thugs are not guilty because they are felchgobbling nutsuckers just like you"

hey vile critter parts---how about "not guilty" not only because they are presumed innocent until proven otherwise, but in the court of general opinion, because there's no evidence of a crime.

the irony lost on you I suppose?

so actual acts and tons of evidence = nothing there and no actual acts and no evidence (at this point) = trumps in bed with Russia, our country is being undermined, and the right is so partisan we cant see it.


Hillary literally took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Russians as she approved a uranium deal giving them access to a large percentage of American uranium mines as Secretary of State

Obama was caught on a hot mic sending a message to Putin that he would be able to give away our nuclear protection more easily "after the election"

Leftists scum felchguszzle Putin jizz, and you always know what they are up to because that is what they accuse you of doing



And this is related to an FBI FISA warrant on Carter Page? Exactly how?

Did Hillary force Carter Page to be a Russian agent?




DaddySatyr -> RE: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page (4/13/2017 6:43:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Hillary literally took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Russians as she approved a uranium deal giving them access to a large percentage of American uranium mines as Secretary of State



Don't forget the she-cunt's bit ... errr ... husband who took $500,000,000 from the Chinese government for his '96 re-election campaign. Nothing to see there, either. I wonder if he allowed them to buy so much of our debt as a quid pro quo?



Michael




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