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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 8:24:35 AM   
BoscoX


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So...no amazing new deal with China?

I....I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.


"I think"

"can't site"

Well... On the positive side, that is better than your usual news and information choices, MM

And you know me, I am always looking at the positive


Yes, in full disclosure, I was up front about my post being a summary of what I had read and that I can't recall the source.

I can try to find the source, News Feeds on my App refresh and disappear ridiculously fast.

The likelihood of the information being dismissed because it isn't a particular partisan source is equitably high no matter who it is, but I'll try to go dig it up.


I didn't mean to give you a bad time, I was having a little bit of fun with MM, winding him up is always a great start to my day

Please carry on

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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 8:37:07 AM   
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Maybe they can't reach US yet. But they certain are at least aiming to hit US bases in countries surrounding them at the very least.

So American soldiers could still get hurt by Sarin Missiles.

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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 8:48:31 AM   
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From BusinessInsider (NOT the original article I read yesterday.)

Amid a productive phone call between President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, Chinese state-run media reported that 150,000 Chinese troops went to North Korea's border.
Both China and the US have pushed back on the claims of troops massing, however.
International observers fear that North Korea may conduct another nuclear test this weekend on the anniversary of the founding of Kim Jong Un's regime, but the US has broadcast loud and clear that nuclear posturing in the Korean peninsula will no longer be tolerated.
In March, Business Insider talked to Sim Tack, a North Korea expert at Stratfor, a geopolitical-analysis firm, who speculated how Chinese forces could stop North Korea's nuclear program without firing a shot.
Tack predicted China would "definitely react to and try to prevent" a US strike on North Korea. The US increasingly has touted military strikes as an option against the Kim regime, even going as far as positioning an aircraft carrier off Korea's coast.
"The overt presence of Chinese forces would dissuade the US from going into that territory because they would run the risk of inviting that larger conflict themselves," Tack said.
Chinese forces in North Korea would "be in a position to force a coup or force Kim's hand" to disarm, Tack said.
Ultimately, China, North Korea's biggest backer, would attempt "to make sure North Korea still exists and serves Chinese interests while it stops acting as a massive bullseye to the US," he added.
In this way, China could preserve its buffer state from falling to Western influence, prevent a US military strike on its borders, and even prevent a nuclear war.
Besides its possible troop buildup, China also seems willing to apply pressure to the Kim regime in other ways. Last week, Beijing ordered its customs authorities to reject coal imports from North Korea - a big hit to the regime's wallet, since coal makes up about 40% of its total exports.

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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 8:56:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

So...no amazing new deal with China?

I....I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.


"I think"

"can't site"

Well... On the positive side, that is better than your usual news and information choices, MM

And you know me, I am always looking at the positive


Yes, in full disclosure, I was up front about my post being a summary of what I had read and that I can't recall the source.

I can try to find the source, News Feeds on my App refresh and disappear ridiculously fast.

The likelihood of the information being dismissed because it isn't a particular partisan source is equitably high no matter who it is, but I'll try to go dig it up.


I didn't mean to give you a bad time, I was having a little bit of fun with MM, winding him up is always a great start to my day

Please carry on

Pfft, I didn't take it negatively toward me. I do appreciate the clarification on your part, but I'm good.
Just aggravated by how fast what I read cycles out and seems to disappear.

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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 9:13:13 AM   
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As infoman said - even if they had they odd working one then they would be blown out of the sky easily – short range to South Korea will be a bit different. But even then probably only 10-25% of them would actually work. And they probably don’t have that many missiles….hmm unless the Russians or Chinese sold them stuff recently

hmm the troops thingy winsome - I’ve seen that crop up too, as I said, but nothing that makes BBC etc

I tend to think North Korea launches them as fast as they can build them. This nation is a nation of true poverty and suffering. Their military is antiquated and would be easily annihilated probably with the first strike.

I think North Korea should be fixed and now. It belongs to South Korea – under “Korea” not to China.

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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 10:55:10 AM   
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From BusinessInsider (NOT the original article I read yesterday.)

Amid a productive phone call between President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, Chinese state-run media reported that 150,000 Chinese troops went to North Korea's border.
Both China and the US have pushed back on the claims of troops massing, however.
International observers fear that North Korea may conduct another nuclear test this weekend on the anniversary of the founding of Kim Jong Un's regime, but the US has broadcast loud and clear that nuclear posturing in the Korean peninsula will no longer be tolerated.
In March, Business Insider talked to Sim Tack, a North Korea expert at Stratfor, a geopolitical-analysis firm, who speculated how Chinese forces could stop North Korea's nuclear program without firing a shot.
Tack predicted China would "definitely react to and try to prevent" a US strike on North Korea. The US increasingly has touted military strikes as an option against the Kim regime, even going as far as positioning an aircraft carrier off Korea's coast.
"The overt presence of Chinese forces would dissuade the US from going into that territory because they would run the risk of inviting that larger conflict themselves," Tack said.
Chinese forces in North Korea would "be in a position to force a coup or force Kim's hand" to disarm, Tack said.
Ultimately, China, North Korea's biggest backer, would attempt "to make sure North Korea still exists and serves Chinese interests while it stops acting as a massive bullseye to the US," he added.
In this way, China could preserve its buffer state from falling to Western influence, prevent a US military strike on its borders, and even prevent a nuclear war.
Besides its possible troop buildup, China also seems willing to apply pressure to the Kim regime in other ways. Last week, Beijing ordered its customs authorities to reject coal imports from North Korea - a big hit to the regime's wallet, since coal makes up about 40% of its total exports.


Thanks for the good info.

That basically describes my understanding of China's relationship with N. Korea for many years. No 'love' for NK, but a necessary buffer nonetheless.

China's just recent military positioning re N. Korea is telegraphing to the US that if intervention be required, it's China and not the US who has proprietary rights in that venture, and that they would not be the least bit hesitant in doing so.

So after that, anything from the US is just the normal blowhard politician(s) trying to get his face on the front page.

The USA and the former USSR already had hundreds of nukes, so most of the latter '50s and all of the '60s and '70s was all about ICBMs to knock them down before reaching target. I'm sure at least 20 other countries keep track with their 'birds' (satellites), and I'll bet 5 or more countries have one or three permanently parked in geosynchronous orbit over N. Korea. If any N. Korean missile got more than 10 miles over the Pacific, it would be a miracle, and China would be more likely than anyone else to be first to hit the mark in that skeet shoot.

This is why no president since 1953 made much noise about N. Korea other than the occasional politically convenient swipe, because 'we' know that China already has it handled.


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RE: North Korea can shoot missles with Sarin - 4/13/2017 11:12:49 AM   
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Trump Says He Offered Trade Concessions to China in Exchange for Help on North Korea
Ryan Kilpatrick (from Fortune)
4:34 AM ET

President Donald Trump said that he offered President Xi Jinping better trade terms with the U.S. in exchange for China's cooperation in confronting North Korea.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Trump said he was willing to accept a continued trade deficit with China and make "not as good a trade deal as I would normally be able to make" if Beijing agreed to confront its neighbor and ally over recent missile launches that violated U.N. resolutions.

Trump said he had changed his mind about how much influence China exerted over North Korea following Xi's explanation of the two countries' relationship. “After listening for 10 minutes," Trump said, "I realized it’s not so easy.”

Despite promises made on the campaign trail last year to label China a currency manipulator on his first day in office, Trump reversed his position, saying that China had stopped manipulating its currency and that there were more pressing issues, such as dealing with North Korea.


Balls

Got something for the trade concessions pussy leftists gave away

Better negotiation, better deals


Thanks for reminding me (and everyone else) to not invite you to any negotiation meeting.

China: "We will keep doing the same thing we have done for 60 years regarding North Korea, and in return you will now make trade relations more favorable to our own country than previous administration."

Trump: "I'm glad you see things my way!

Trump turns to his pathetic audience, pronounces 'Victory!,' bozoX and every other loser in life instinctively strikes out arm in 'Heil!' salute.

Rinse, repeat.



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