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Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Governm... - 4/13/2017 12:44:14 PM   
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From Kevin Drum:

Donald Trump Is Really Learning a Lot at the White House Academy for Government Studies
APR. 13, 2017 12:52 PM

I'm just writing these down for posterity:

Trump on health care: "I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

Trump on China and North Korea: "[President Xi] then went into the history of China and Korea....And Korea actually used to be a part of China. And after listening for 10 minutes I realized that it’s not so easy. You know I felt pretty strongly that they have a tremendous power over China....But it’s not what you would think."

Trump on the Export-Import Bank: "I was very much opposed to Ex-Im Bank, [but] it turns out that, first of all lots of small companies will really be helped....So instinctively you would say it’s a ridiculous thing but actually it’s a very good thing and it actually makes money. You know, it actually could make a lot of money."

So far, Donald Trump has learned that health care is complicated; Korea used to be part of China; and the Ex-Im bank helps small companies too.

On health care, Trump gets solid marks. It is complicated. On the other hand, pretty much everyone except Trump already knew this. And the graders would have liked him to demonstrate a little more familiarity with why health care is complicated. Still, it's a good first step. Let's give him him a B-.

On Korea, Trump didn't do so well. Is it true that Korea "used to be a part of China"? Sort of, in the sense that, back in the day, China repeatedly invaded Korea with varying success. At times it was a vassal state, at other times it wasn't. But Trump talks as though maybe Korea was a province of China until maybe World War II or something. It's actually been more than six centuries. Still, I'm feeling generous, so I'll give a gentleman's C-.

The Ex-Im bank is even more problematic. The bank itself claims that "more than 90 percent of EXIM Bank's transactions—more than 2,600—directly supported American small businesses." But take a look at dollars:

2%--small businesses
MOST of the money went to Boeing.

This comes from a longtime opponent of the Ex-Im Bank, so take it with a grain of salt. Small businesses do a little better on other metrics. Still, there's not much question that agitprop aside, the Ex-Im Bank is primarily a tool for gigantic corporations. On the other hand, Trump is right that it makes money and doesn't cost the taxpayers anything. But I still think I have to give him a D on this for his core claim.

Overall, then, Trump is learning, but he's not learning especially well. So far I'd give him about a C-. He really needs to spend more time on his homework and less time watching TV.
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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/14/2017 7:55:22 AM   
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So...is this education going to lead anywhere?

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/14/2017 9:42:51 AM   
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well his healthcare plan is to kick off ten million people if he doesnt get his way, is one of the most pathetic cunt things Ive seen since oh last week?
so it doesnt seem so.
Even his base is begging him to stick to what he said on the erection campaign.
Idiots

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/14/2017 11:00:58 AM   
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musicm. trump is like a little kid, talking rubbish, backtracking ,he obviously never knew what he was getting into.

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/15/2017 1:33:01 PM   
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Nonetheless, here he is.

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/15/2017 1:44:34 PM   
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quote:

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musicm. trump is like a little kid, talking rubbish, backtracking ,he obviously never knew what he was getting into.



You mean the guy who beat everyone who preached from on high that it was impossible for him to win? The guy who beat the smartest woman in the world, and everyone at the DNC? The guy who kicked the shit out of the establishment itself, including everyone in the Republican party that went against him? The guy who shitcanned practically everyone in government and the media? The guy who even beat Obama's illegal spy apparatus, as it allied with the British spy machine to illegally surveil his campaign to look for any excuse to scream "scandal"?

The guy who constantly runs circles around all of you fools, and your puppet masters too?

That guy?

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/15/2017 1:54:48 PM   
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he was totally trounced by 3 million votes and is long on the record as being a complete mad lying cunt - who tells the truth an awesome 4% of all time...Imagine anyone who would enable that wreckage

heh who did you vote for hysterical snowflake and was it an X marks the spot kinda of jobbie

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RE: Hillary Worshipers Still Butthurt - 4/16/2017 4:12:52 AM   
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he was totally trounced by 3 million votes and is long on the record as being a complete mad lying cunt - who tells the truth an awesome 4% of all time...Imagine anyone who would enable that wreckage

heh who did you vote for hysterical snowflake and was it an X marks the spot kinda of jobbie


Had Hillary been popular enough to carry the states she needed you wouldn't have to make such foolish excuses for her, pretending that you have no clue how the system works despite being amply informed hundreds of times

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Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 5:27:32 AM   
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Meanwhile, the child who would be king has discovered that bombing shit brings him the adulation he seeks.

Much easier than governmentin'

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:05:44 AM   
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Meanwhile, the child who would be king has discovered that bombing shit brings him the adulation he seeks.

Much easier than governmentin'


Just you wait . . . when he gets his new box of pointy, multicolored crayons . . .
"King of the world, Ma !!!!!!"

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:17:11 AM   
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Meanwhile, the child who would be king has discovered that bombing shit brings him the adulation he seeks.

Much easier than governmentin'


Still all kinds of butthurt that your pantsuit queen lost huh kid

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:36:32 AM   
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Since you already know that's not the case, just another day of trolling' for you.

Very childish, btw, to change the thread title.

Grow up. Learn to debate like a man.

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:40:45 AM   
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Since you already know that's not the case, just another day of trolling' for you.

Very childish, btw, to change the thread title.

Grow up. Learn to debate like a man.


Right back atcha twat

Check a mirror some time

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:45:01 AM   
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Ah. The "Nuh-uh, you are!" Defense

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RE: Trump failing at governmentin' studies - 4/16/2017 7:54:46 AM   
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Ah. The "Nuh-uh, you are!" Defense


You are extremely immature but at least you don't constantly accuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a faggot, like your "sharp" friends do, I suppose...

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RE: Hillary Worshipers Still Butthurt - 4/16/2017 4:52:24 PM   
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Was Hillary more popular than Trump

yes or no?



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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/16/2017 11:04:45 PM   
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On Korea, Trump didn't do so well. Is it true that Korea "used to be a part of China"? Sort of, in the sense that, back in the day, China repeatedly invaded Korea with varying success. At times it was a vassal state, at other times it wasn't. But Trump talks as though maybe Korea was a province of China until maybe World War II or something. It's actually been more than six centuries. Still, I'm feeling generous, so I'll give a gentleman's C-.


Korea was 'part of China' during the Mongolian Empire, along with parts of Europe. Since Genghis Khan 'adopted' Chinese culture, there are people in China who consider him to be one of them (probably true because of all the rape babies).

Of course China is going to pretend that this means they actually own Korea, despite the fact that it was essentially an occupation and the Chinese themselves eventually got rid of the Khans. They might as well also claim Russia and parts of Eastern Europe too.

Trump is such a fucking ignorant piece of shit he doesn't even realize that this is what they're talking about. I can just imagine Xi looking at this ignorant child and in a soft condescending tone telling the story of how China actually deserves to rule a world which was stolen from them by their uncivilized enemies.

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RE: Trump Struggling at the White House Academy for Gov... - 4/17/2017 1:57:34 AM   
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There again, if he read a book called 1524, he would find that China could lay claim to parts of half of what is now the known world, so maybe he shouldn't read it and for gawds sake, don't let Xi anywhere near it or we could REALLY have problems.

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