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WickedsDesire -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:04:47 PM)

I am led to believe your humble abode is the bucket of heaving jobbies - am I un-correct?

Do you believe i care? nah

Do you believe anyone cares? ask around




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:06:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I am led to believe your humble abode is the bucket of heaving jobbies - am I un-correct?

Do you believe i care? nah

Do you believe anyone cares? ask around


A cartoon reality would be an improvement in your case [:D]




WickedsDesire -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:25:18 PM)

Here is how i see things with the complete hysterical snowflake entity that is you - you sit in a dark corner plopping away your jobbies into a bucket of your own filth. Do you believe this is a good place to be and what purpose does it serve you and your burnt out wrecked arsehole?

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jlf1961 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:38:48 PM)

Bosco, for some one that claims to be educated and well versed on various government agencies modes of operations you seem to be completely ignorant of certain facts.

1) Friendly intelligence agencies routinely trade (actually give information for use as leverage for favors later) intelligence they think might be important.

2) President Obama did not ask the British to tap any of Trump's people, as has been stated by Trump, his associates and other GOP Trump ass kissers.

3) That information would not have been passed to the US if the British did not think there was something vital to US national security and in turn there own.

Now with the keystone cops showing of denials, back steps, firings, demotions etc, I am, at this point, quite positive that if there was anything going on between the Trump campaign organization and the Russians, I doubt that Donald actually had any knowledge whatsoever of it.

And I am not talking plausible deniability. I really think that Trump was kept out of the loop, which given his business history, would be pretty much the way he works.

If this is the case, and it turns out there was any wrong doing, Trump is only guilty by association, which means he is going to fall because some dick head working for him did something that he had no knowledge of and would not have approved if he had.

While it is true that Donald Trump has engaged in business practices that, while not explicitly illegal, where not ethically acceptable. He has fired and provided evidence of executives that knowingly broke the law without his actual knowledge.

Therefore, it is my opinion, that Donald is being set up to take a fall by people he trusted.

The evidence I present is circumstantial but compelling.

For example, one of Trump's campaign execs arranged a back door meeting with Russian officials through a Dubai government official to discuss lefting of sanctions against Russia.

Now, again this is my opinion, if Trump truly planned to lift those sanctions, he could have done so with an executive order, which he has not even attempted to do.

Also, since his election, Trump holdings in Russia have not benefited from any change in the Russian government, and actually seem to be having more difficulty than before his election.

Besides, while Trump may be a fool in some political aspects, he is not an idiot, if he were trying to hide something, he would do a better job, especially after the Atlantic City casino illegal loan fiasco involving his father.

One thing you can say, Donald Trump never makes the same mistake twice. If he were involved with any illegal or illicit dealings with the Russian government, he would have done a better job at covering it up and he would not have even considered accusing Obama of any surveillance of Trump tower.

While this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but to be honest, it is almost as if he were elected just to fail and either lose the next election or be impeached.

As it stands, the mid terms are in jeopardy for the GOP with the current suspicion of some Russian connection, the GOP head of the intelligence committee is under investigation for ethics violations (funny considering this is the guy that could make or break an investigation) and he is shaking up his dream team staff.

Not to mention the strike on the airfield he ordered in response to the chemical attack failed to accomplish anything, since he was forced to warn the Russians of the attack and they warned the Syrians who moved all the valuable aircraft elsewhere. The base was operational with strikes being flown off it the very next day.

Seriously, there is more to this than the American public is getting to see.

Now, granted, the dems could benefit with taking the mid terms, but the democrat party is usually tripping over its own shadow so this is a bit beyond them. Trump has gone to the mat with some of his staunchest supporters during the election, the far right, pretty much killing any chance of support from them.

And he is not doing all that well with the moderates in his own party.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:51:53 PM)

You trollish little freaks would be whistling different tunes had such spying been by Bush and Blair vs. Barack Obama

No question.





PeonForHer -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 1:53:32 PM)

FR

This thread had too ridiculous a title for me to want to read through it. Still, I think the comment needs to made: I really don't think that anyone in Britain really gives a rotating rat's arse if Trump apologises or not to us. The man needs to apologise to himself and the American people for who and what he is, first. God is he a disgrace to the White House.




WickedsDesire -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 2:07:34 PM)

The thread title was "fake. fake news so sad"...he was thrashed thrice in our courts, including the supreme, and yet the poverty of amerce voted the wreckage in




PeonForHer -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 2:18:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

The thread title was "fake. fake news so sad"...he was thrashed thrice in our courts, including the supreme, and yet the poverty of amerce voted the wreckage in


I do think we should all respect Trump's supporters for voting him in, despite their being cretins, though. Cretins are humans, too, and deserve to be listened to. Americans are being roundly criticised at present for not respecting cretins and their opinions enough, and I believe justly so.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 3:21:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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I understand you have been completely defeated , and therefore your desire to derail the thread.



It is patently obvious that Obama and Hillary had far more demonstrably nefarious ties to Putin and Russia than has been in any way proven about Trump or any of his people, yet the leftist media is blindered as badly as you are



Far more demonstrably nefarious??????

Your hyper partisan mind has separated you from reality.

A Commerce Secretary who as Vice-Chairman of a known bank utilized for Russian money-laundering, oversaw the transfer of funds to a bank specifically sanctioned by the U.S. (with direct ties to Putin)

A former Campaign Chairman who worked for the former Pro-Russian Ukranian President, and took huge sums of cash from Russia which he laundered through New York Real Estate.

A former National Security Adviser who discussed removing the Ukraine sanctions in a future Trump Presidency with the Russian Ambassador, and was on the payroll of the Russians WHILE sitting in NSC briefings.

That is just the TIP of the iceberg.

You are saying one of Hillary's many pay-to-play deals, a Uranium deal for cash coming in to the Clinton Foundation is demonstrably far more nefarious?????

Seriously, your hyperpartisanship has simply stripped you of all sense of reality.




BamaD -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 4:24:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

They should have kept quiet, of course.
being the first to realise(supposedly)that russia could be doing something naughty? should have been reported to trump first?


The only illegal activity were the felonies committed by the Obama team when they illegally unmasked private citizens for political purposes, then leaked illegally gained information about them to Democrat allied mega media corporations owned by the mega rich

Hillary had more illegal ties to Russia than probably anyone in history. And who can forget Obama's infamous hot mic moment

So, like revealing Valerie plumes identity? Oops! that was Cheney!

How about a citation for that?


A citation from that troll [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

I understand. The leftest kool aid both loves revisionist history and hates Cheney. It was an impulse statement he couldn't help while he was trying to be a troll. Novak, the author of the article didn't say it was Cheney, he said it was an inadvertent comment from Armatage. Which, unlike Susan Rich, Armatage admitted. While the Obama gang was doing it to help Hillary and democrat politics, Armatage made an inadvertent comment during a lengthy interview that Novak was able to piece together. Of course Plame's husband, a Clinton crony, claims it was intentionally done to ruin him and his family. The only people who have been shown to do that sort of thing have been in the Obama administration.

And her husband had already outed her in credits in his book.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:05:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I understand you have been completely defeated , and therefore your desire to derail the thread.



It is patently obvious that Obama and Hillary had far more demonstrably nefarious ties to Putin and Russia than has been in any way proven about Trump or any of his people, yet the leftist media is blindered as badly as you are



Far more demonstrably nefarious??????

Your hyper partisan mind has separated you from reality.

A Commerce Secretary who as Vice-Chairman of a known bank utilized for Russian money-laundering, oversaw the transfer of funds to a bank specifically sanctioned by the U.S. (with direct ties to Putin)

A former Campaign Chairman who worked for the former Pro-Russian Ukranian President, and took huge sums of cash from Russia which he laundered through New York Real Estate.

A former National Security Adviser who discussed removing the Ukraine sanctions in a future Trump Presidency with the Russian Ambassador, and was on the payroll of the Russians WHILE sitting in NSC briefings.

That is just the TIP of the iceberg.

You are saying one of Hillary's many pay-to-play deals, a Uranium deal for cash coming in to the Clinton Foundation is demonstrably far more nefarious?????

Seriously, your hyperpartisanship has simply stripped you of all sense of reality.


That is all very creatively embellished [:D]

Almost kind of impressive....

No one has been or is being charged with anything. EVERYTHING 'President Trump' is leaked, too - and there is no evidence of any crimes other than speculation from hyper partisan leftists with wild and crazy imaginations

Such as yourself




mnottertail -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:17:48 PM)

the nutsuckers are the only ones hallucinating and hysterical and shitting their pants on this one, and its clear that the leaky criminal mingeboxes are in the whitehouse or part of the Il Douchovitch campaign goons and thugs.

Rest of us are waiting to see how many commies and criminal leaky mingeboxes in the whitehouse are going to serve their country from Leavenworth.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:24:39 PM)

The punchline is that there is massive and overwhelming evidence that both Barack and Hillary are both guilty of everything alt left crazies are trying to pin on President Trump, with no evidence....

'Collusion with Russia'




jlf1961 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:25:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You trollish little freaks would be whistling different tunes had such spying been by Bush and Blair vs. Barack Obama

No question.





You missed the pertinent point.

Communication with Russian government officials are routinely monitored.

Garbage is routinely filed and forgotten.

Evidently something caused some Brit to figure US intel needed to know.

And Obama didnt ask them to monitor any one in Trump's team.

And, to be honest, IF Trump had anything to hide, and suspected such monitoring was going on, he would not have said shit about it.

However, everyone and their brother working for Trump has gone out of their collective minds trying to diffuse something that they claim was totally innocent or claiming there was no communication going on.

Sorry, but there is an old saying, "me thinks they doth protest too much."

Since, clearly someone in the Trump camp was talking to Russian government officials AND talking a lot about the sanctions imposed by the Obama administration, which Trump seems to be perfectly happy to leave in place.

Now, if I may remind you, during the Watergate scandal, Nixon was the one doing everything in his power to stop any investigation, while Trump is inviting it, and every one that tries to prove his allegations turns out to have a skeleton in his closet, which, to me at least, proves one thing.

Trump actually has nothing to hide, but there are some who are on his team or were on his team that do.

Now, being the suspicious fuck that I am, I am asking a simple question.

This could, very easily destroy the Trump administration, so who would benefit?

The dems could very easily take the mid term elections, but that does not guarantee a win in the next Presidential election, so if this is being orchestrated by the dems, they are making a major mess of it.

If this takes Trump down, then Mike Pence steps to the plate, but then he would be tarnished by the shit storm, Gerald Ford all over again.

Seriously, with all the court cases against his executive orders, which clearly were based on his campaign statements, even if they are not worded to mean all Muslims, his "Muslim ban" statements are being used to fight them in the courts and winning.

He has gone to war with the extreme right wing, who supported his run, alienating them in the process which will impact anyone associated with Trump.

So who gains?

The US clearly does not want a continuation of the Obama legacy, which Hilary would have surely done, and at this time there is no serious Dem contender for the oval office.

And, in all honesty, Trump is not the GOP golden boy, never was.

Personally, I believe that Trump was elected and Hillary so tarnished her political career is in the toilet, just so Trump could fall on his ass and some other GOP strong man could come in and save the party and the country.

Because there is no way so much could get blown so badly so soon in any administration and handled so badly by staff as this. Jesus it reads like an HBO sitcom!

Or a really bad version of the Manchurian Candidate.

And while Trump tower might be THE address in Manhattan, the White House is THE address in the free world. And considering Mrs Trump's flair for decorating, the fact she has not made the first effort in putting any of her personal touch on the White House speaks for itself.

She had decorators in within hours of her moving in with Donald.

Its almost as if she does not think the Trumps will be there long.

I said before he could be a great president, but it seems that either he is shooting himself in the foot or the people that are advising him are dropping the ball in ways that make no sense.

And his current numbers are going nowhere but down. A few have predicted he will have single digits by August.





MasterJaguar01 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:30:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

the nutsuckers are the only ones hallucinating and hysterical and shitting their pants on this one, and its clear that the leaky criminal mingeboxes are in the whitehouse or part of the Il Douchovitch campaign goons and thugs.

Rest of us are waiting to see how many commies and criminal leaky mingeboxes in the whitehouse are going to serve their country from Leavenworth.


These hysterical, testicle-sucking, hallucinating, fecal incontinent people, need to seek help. It sounds like they need an assisted living arrangement.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:34:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You trollish little freaks would be whistling different tunes had such spying been by Bush and Blair vs. Barack Obama

No question.




Evidently something caused some Brit to figure US intel needed to know.



Where is the beef

Everything has been leaked

There has never been any "there" there, only felonious intercepts and unlawful unmasking of private American citizens with no proof of wrongdoing of any kind

The President said Obama surveilled his campaign, leftist trash balked, said he was crazy - then the news came out proving that President Trump was correct

Then the president said the British were in on it, the British acted offended, denied it, and demanded an apology along with all of the alt left wackos stateside

Now it is proven that President Trump was correct about that as well. You were lied to, twice - but you still fall for the DNC/MSNBC/CNN/New York Times party line propaganda every time

It's what you call a politically motivated witch hunt, and you are playing the fool for believing any of their repeated denials

The perps are the Dems, and their chickens is comin' home

To roost




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:47:04 PM)

If the Republicans had done that to Obama, spied on his political campaign back in 2007, by the left's reaction one might have guessed that someone was marching around with Obama's wife and kids' heads on sticks or some fuckin' thing




Dvr22999874 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 5:56:12 PM)

Maybe the Military is going to take over Jeff *smile*. I have to admit I know little or nothing about who is who on either side of American politics, what you say makes a lot of sense though, but just WHO do you reckon would be first to front up if/when Trump exits stage left ?




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/15/2017 9:52:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Where is the beef



Here's the beef (actually only about 10% of it. There is another 90% out there)
A Commerce Secretary who as Vice-Chairman of a known bank utilized for Russian money-laundering, oversaw the transfer of funds to a bank specifically sanctioned by the U.S. (with direct ties to Putin)

A former Campaign Chairman who worked for the former Pro-Russian Ukranian President, and took huge sums of cash from Russia which he laundered through New York Real Estate.

A former National Security Adviser who discussed removing the Ukraine sanctions in a future Trump Presidency with the Russian Ambassador, and was on the payroll of the Russians WHILE sitting in NSC briefings.


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Everything has been leaked

There has never been any "there" there, only felonious intercepts and unlawful unmasking of private American citizens with no proof of wrongdoing of any kind



There has ALWAYS been "there" there, and there is more and more, day by day. There are no felonious intercepts or illegal unmasking of anyone. You KNOW this, but keep claiming illegal surveillance anyway, like a stubborn 4-year old.

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ORIGINAL: Boscox
The President said Obama surveilled his campaign, leftist trash balked, said he was crazy - then the news came out proving that President Trump was correct

Then the president said the British were in on it, the British acted offended, denied it, and demanded an apology along with all of the alt left wackos stateside

Now it is proven that President Trump was correct about that as well. You were lied to, twice - but you still fall for the DNC/MSNBC/CNN/New York Times party line propaganda every time




Trump was proven wrong with his claims about Obama (it turned out to be the FBI on a FISA warrant)
Trump was proven wrong with his claims about GCHQ (it turned out to be incidental collection in the process of surveilling the Russians)

You know this but keep repeating this nonsense like a stubborn 4-year old having a tantrum.

It's rather silly now.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump Was Right To Refuse Britain Apology (4/16/2017 4:14:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Where is the beef



Here's the beef (actually only about 10% of it. There is another 90% out there)
A Commerce Secretary who as Vice-Chairman of a known bank utilized for Russian money-laundering, oversaw the transfer of funds to a bank specifically sanctioned by the U.S. (with direct ties to Putin)

A former Campaign Chairman who worked for the former Pro-Russian Ukranian President, and took huge sums of cash from Russia which he laundered through New York Real Estate.

A former National Security Adviser who discussed removing the Ukraine sanctions in a future Trump Presidency with the Russian Ambassador, and was on the payroll of the Russians WHILE sitting in NSC briefings.


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Everything has been leaked

There has never been any "there" there, only felonious intercepts and unlawful unmasking of private American citizens with no proof of wrongdoing of any kind



There has ALWAYS been "there" there, and there is more and more, day by day. There are no felonious intercepts or illegal unmasking of anyone. You KNOW this, but keep claiming illegal surveillance anyway, like a stubborn 4-year old.

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ORIGINAL: Boscox
The President said Obama surveilled his campaign, leftist trash balked, said he was crazy - then the news came out proving that President Trump was correct

Then the president said the British were in on it, the British acted offended, denied it, and demanded an apology along with all of the alt left wackos stateside

Now it is proven that President Trump was correct about that as well. You were lied to, twice - but you still fall for the DNC/MSNBC/CNN/New York Times party line propaganda every time




Trump was proven wrong with his claims about Obama (it turned out to be the FBI on a FISA warrant)
Trump was proven wrong with his claims about GCHQ (it turned out to be incidental collection in the process of surveilling the Russians)

You know this but keep repeating this nonsense like a stubborn 4-year old having a tantrum.

It's rather silly now.


Very predictably, no links to the ridiculous far left wing opinion blog that you so breathlessly quote

Obama was the FBI, Obama was the Justice Department. He weaponized every fiber of the federal government for political purposes, just like the third world dictator wannabe that he was

Had Bush used Homeland Security to spy on the Obama campaign, you wouldn't be making excuses for him. Your screams of outrage would still be echoing today






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