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Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 8:32:57 AM   
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It's always refreshing when a scumbag for whom society has no use finally performs a service to that society.

As always, though, there is an innocent victim here ... his daughter who will grow up without a father (which some might say is a benefit, growing up without this father)

Story here.



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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 9:20:59 AM   
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It's always refreshing when a scumbag for whom society has no use finally performs a service to that society.

As always, though, there is an innocent victim here ... his daughter who will grow up without a father
(which some might say is a benefit, growing up without this father)


We seldom agree...this would be one of those times when we are marching
in the same direction.
This piece of shit was busy breathing up my air and I am glad he stopped.






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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 9:35:21 AM   
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I think the "right thing" is some arrangement by which the criminal makes compensation somehow for the losses he has caused to others. in fact I wish that were a sort of cornerstone of our criminal justice system.

yes---I suspect most daughters would rather have a father living, even if in jail, than one who killed himself.

Michael, have you read john donne's "meditation 17?"

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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 10:28:30 AM   
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I think the "right thing" is some arrangement by which the criminal makes compensation somehow for the losses he has caused to others. in fact I wish that were a sort of cornerstone of our criminal justice system.



You and I are in complete agreement, but, as usual, I need to put one little fly in the ointment: I can't think of a way to "pay back" victims for some crimes.

Murder comes to mind, immediately, as do rape and child molestation.

Theft/Fraud? Yep. That's an answer, but there's another fly. Do we keep the criminals in prison until their (financial) debt is paid? That might take such a long time as to constitute "cruel and unusual" punishment.

Do we release them, trusting that they'll get a job and make the proper restitution? I don't favor that. They've already proven they're without honor.

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yes---I suspect most daughters would rather have a father living, even if in jail, than one who killed himself.



Children often want things that aren't good for them. I do feel bad for this precious baby, on the one hand, but on the other hand, I think she might have dodged a bullet (maybe literally).

I've always been an advocate for the death penalty over "life without parole". Not from a fiscal standpoint. I believe caging people (even though they be closer to animals) for life IS "cruel and unusual".

I imagine that even after his recent "win", Mr. Hernandez felt a ton of despair and while that is a sin, it is our "fault".

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Michael, have you read john donne's "meditation 17?"



I have read next to nothing since my blindness (I lost almost complete vision in my right eye, back in January). Obviously, these boards are an exception to that, but picking up a book is not the pleasant distraction it once was.



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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 11:33:32 AM   
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I think the "right thing" is some arrangement by which the criminal makes compensation somehow for the losses he has caused to others. in fact I wish that were a sort of cornerstone of our criminal justice system.



That's a great idea.... maybe we could use that against gun owners that leave their guns unprotected too.

It seems his lawyer thinks there is no way he committed suicide and his murder is a cover up.

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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 1:49:29 PM   
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I was thinking similarly as I was writing it---how to make the sentiment do-able.

I think for me "cruel and unusual" would be a function of how much freedom of movement and interaction with other people one has. 23 hours a day in solitary confinement comes to mind.

the john donne piece I was referring to is just a little discourse in a larger collection of his writings.

here it is:

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XVII. MEDITATION.


PERCHANCE he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that. The church is Catholic, universal, so are all her actions; all that she does belongs to all. When she baptizes a child, that action concerns me; for that child is thereby connected to that body which is my head too, and ingrafted into that body whereof I am a member. And when she buries a man, that action concerns me: all mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated; God employs several translators; some pieces are translated by age, some by sickness, some by war, some by justice; but God's hand is in every translation, and his hand shall bind up all our scattered leaves again for that library where every book shall lie open to one another. As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come, so this bell calls us all; but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness. There was a contention as far as a suit (in which both piety and dignity, religion and estimation, were mingled), which of the religious orders should ring to prayers first in the morning; and it was determined, that they should ring first that rose earliest. If we understand aright the dignity of this bell that tolls for our evening prayer, we would be glad to make it ours by rising early, in that application, that it might be ours as well as his, whose indeed it is. The bell doth toll for him that thinks it doth; and though it intermit again, yet from that minute that that occasion wrought upon him, he is united to God. Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises? but who takes off his eye from a comet when that breaks out? Who bends not his ear to any bell which upon any occasion rings? but who can remove it from that bell which is passing a piece of himself out of this world?

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee. Neither can we call this a begging of misery, or a borrowing of misery, as though we were not miserable enough of ourselves, but must fetch in more from the next house, in taking upon us the misery of our neighbours. Truly it were an excusable covetousness if we did, for affliction is a treasure, and scarce any man hath enough of it. No man hath affliction enough that is not matured and ripened by and made fit for God by that affliction. If a man carry treasure in bullion, or in a wedge of gold, and have none coined into current money, his treasure will not defray him as he travels. Tribulation is treasure in the nature of it, but it is not current money in the use of it, except we get nearer and nearer our home, heaven, by it. Another man may be sick too, and sick to death, and this affliction may lie in his bowels, as gold in a mine, and be of no use to him; but this bell, that tells me of his affliction, digs out and applies that gold to me: if by this consideration of another's danger I take mine own into contemplation, and so secure myself, by making my recourse to my God, who is our only security.

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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 4:59:09 PM   
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It seems his lawyer thinks there is no way he committed suicide and his murder is a cover up.

Butch



And Bill O'Reilly's lawyer insists he has "absolute proof" that his client was a victim of a smear campaign.

(and it was Hernandez's former agent, by the way).

Who would ever TRUST a lawyer? The profession should be as it's pronounced in some pockets in the South and MidWest: "Liars".



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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 5:02:08 PM   
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I agree..... but I wonder why the lawyer would give a crap.

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RE: Aaron Hernandez Does The Right Thing - 4/19/2017 5:06:08 PM   
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Third one in a week who has done the right thing.

the other 2 are the 'Facebook Killer' and the fuckwit who killed 5 people in a mall in the pacific northwest.

Can we have a coupla thousand more and save the taxpayers some money?

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