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MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/22/2017 7:37:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-f91de181.png[/image] [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-7114792d.png[/image] [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-7b1588fb.png[/image] Any questions Interesting graphs... I will admit, I am not 100% certain what some of them are depicting. Top to bottom: The top one APPEARS to display CO2 levels and Temperature (or the derivative over time in temperature), hence the delta?). It is based on MILLIONS of years before present. BTW: What happened to the Creationist Republicans who claim anyone who has utilized a scientific method to establish that the earth is ANY older than 5000 years is a leftist propagandist? Anyway, I digress. First of all, man made climate change, caused by the creation of greenhouse gasses will not harm the earth. It will just make it more difficult for humans to survive on the earth. The earth will shake us off like gnats and be just fine. Notice, in the first (top graph) on the RIGHT side (the part where HUMANS are) and the hockey stick representing CO2. Notice the Temp (or Delta in Temp) going up as well? OK... On to the next graph. This one APPEARS to show global temperature. Again look to the right side of it, where the humans are. See the orange area getting larger over time? ok The next 4 Top left graph CO2 emissions. There is our hockey stick again. (It's like straight out of inconvenient truth) Top Right graph. People are living longer nowadays. Why yes they are! (So?) Bottom left graph. People are producing more nowadays. Why yes they are! (So?) Bottom Right graph. There are far more people on the earth nowadays. Why yes there are!!! (So?) So maybe, people living longer, and producing more, and far more of them, produces far more greenhouse gasses like CO2? Oh an BTW, by these VERY graphs show that CO2 and Temperature are both rising starting when humans started appearing on the earth? boscox. It looks like you made Al Gore's point better then he ever could!

AtUrCervix -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/22/2017 11:09:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery When you leave partisan politics, however, larger majorities appear. Eighty-nine percent and 83 percent of Americans, respectively, support building more solar and wind plants. Sure, solar and wind are nice. Fish and polar bears are nifty as well. Those are not policies or suggestions on doing anything about them. When you ask me about solar and wind and fish and polar bears, that is one thing. When you add in some partisan stuff, I know where the conversation is going. So my answers start reflecting that. I would bet that you could get the same number of people to agree with the statement that "food is good." Yet, when you start discussing carbs and proteins, or school lunches, you will start getting disagreements about the goodness of food. Throw the term "GMO" in there with some baseball bats and you could have a blood bath. Ohhhhh....I'm pretty sure all you'd need is "food is good" for some to start right out with"you're PHOQUING Stupid!" LOL

MercTech -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 12:11:34 AM)
No one with any sense is in favor of a carbon tax. A carbon tax would be inflationary without having a positive benefit on slowing CO2 driven climate change. An infrastructure initiative going to more efficient use of fossil fuels where it can't be avoided along with regulatory incentives for non fossil fuel power generation would have a much more positive effect.

Musicmystery -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 6:09:21 AM)
Why wouldn't it?

bounty44 -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 7:15:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery When you leave partisan politics, however, larger majorities appear. Eighty-nine percent and 83 percent of Americans, respectively, support building more solar and wind plants. Sure, solar and wind are nice. Fish and polar bears are nifty as well. Those are not policies or suggestions on doing anything about them. When you ask me about solar and wind and fish and polar bears, that is one thing. When you add in some partisan stuff, I know where the conversation is going. So my answers start reflecting that. I would bet that you could get the same number of people to agree with the statement that "food is good." Yet, when you start discussing carbs and proteins, or school lunches, you will start getting disagreements about the goodness of food. Throw the term "GMO" in there with some baseball bats and you could have a blood bath. Ohhhhh....I'm pretty sure all you'd need is "food is good" for some to start right out with"you're PHOQUING Stupid!" LOL that would be your "ignorant unsubstantiated opinion punkassmotherfucker" or do you "open your mouth just to change your feet dumbass?" cite please? why do you think food is good but hate blood baths? did I miss anything? something about "amerika" maybe?

BoscoX -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 8:18:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech No one with any sense is in favor of a carbon tax. A carbon tax would be inflationary without having a positive benefit on slowing CO2 driven climate change. An infrastructure initiative going to more efficient use of fossil fuels where it can't be avoided along with regulatory incentives for non fossil fuel power generation would have a much more positive effect. Leftists hijack the science in order to fulfill Ronald reagan's admonition about their views on taxation: "If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” And that's where the "common ground" on environmentalism starts to become yet another leftist killing field

Musicmystery -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 10:16:16 AM)
Gosh. That sounds partisan. And not the point.

BoscoX -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 11:02:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Gosh. That sounds partisan. And not the point. "The point" is whatever gets posted, despite your cartoonish fantasies to the contrary Global warming cultists have never been about solutions - watch as the movement leaders spew more carbon than practically everyone else on the planet. It's always been about alt left radicals using environmentalism to hijack governments and economies Now they are wearing masks and attacking innocent people to silence free speech because their fear mongering is clearly not working

Musicmystery -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 11:04:52 AM)
So topics are irrelevant. That explains 99.5% of your posts. You don't have to shit on things you don't want to discuss. Lots of threads. Or start another. It's about looking beyond partisanship. I know that's inconceivable to you. So move on. * shrug *

Musicmystery -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 11:52:49 AM)
Very sharp of you. [8\|] Nothing but shit. Again.

Nnanji -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 12:21:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Why wouldn't it? You're for it, yet you don't know how it works?

Lucylastic -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 12:56:24 PM)
Id like to wish everyone a very happy earth day. Even tho its a sad earth... I couldnt get out to the march today(local one) but it looks (so far) that more turned out across the country than were at the inauguration.yes I had to go there I wont get any more partisan than this... Without science, Donald Trump would be bald. oh and this... [image]http://i.imgur.com/O3yrU6d.jpg[/image]

mnottertail -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 1:01:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery No, most threads, once you show up, are about "Nuh-uh because leftist," where "leftist" means anything you don't want to discuss. Instead of deliberately derailing them, engage threads with topics you care to discuss. STFU troll, you constantly derail all of these threads yourself, along with your sharp mnottertroll buddy Here you are at it again You are a corpulent compound gimp, a pedophile, a paranoic, and a felchgobbler, you got here all by yourself with no help from anyone. You are not sharp.

Nnanji -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 1:19:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-f91de181.png[/image] [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-7114792d.png[/image] [image]https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-04-21-7b1588fb.png[/image] Any questions Interesting graphs... I will admit, I am not 100% certain what some of them are depicting. But I'll bet you're not going to let that stop you making comments on them. Top to bottom: The top one APPEARS to display CO2 levels and Temperature (or the derivative over time in temperature), hence the delta?). It is based on MILLIONS of years before present. BTW: What happened to the Creationist Republicans who claim anyone who has utilized a scientific method to establish that the earth is ANY older than 5000 years is a leftist propagandist? There you go howling the extent of your ability to understand the graphs or the context of the discussion. For your information those Creationist Republicans were trying to get laid by the girls that had "COEXIST" bumper stickers on their car. Maybe you should try that. It might be educational for you. Anyway, I digress. On par with what we expect from you. First of all, man made climate change, caused by the creation of greenhouse gasses will not harm the earth. It will just make it more difficult for humans to survive on the earth. The earth will shake us off like gnats and be just fine. Citation please? Notice, in the first (top graph) on the RIGHT side (the part where HUMANS are) and the hockey stick representing CO2. Notice the Temp (or Delta in Temp) going up as well? Yes, I see that and I see it in several other places. In fact I see it go up and down. Generally, it always goes up after it been down for a while. It looks pretty down there so I'd assume it would go up. As it did that on several places on the graph, before people, I wonder what other factors, besides people, made it do similar...and opposite...things in those places? OK... On to the next graph. This one APPEARS to show global temperature. Again look to the right side of it, where the humans are. See the orange area getting larger over time? I see very large orange areas in other places before people. I also see some of the largest blue (cold) periods recently. It appears on the graph that the recent orange area are recovering from a lot of blue area. Why do you think that is? You keep mentioning that ide where humans are and totally ignoring other shapes of the graph more extreme or that the area where humans are might just be where a normal warming might happen after a little ice age. Why is that? ok The next 4 Top left graph CO2 emissions. There is our hockey stick again. (It's like straight out of inconvenient truth) Which has been totally debunked, but hey, you admit you know nothing about which you are talking. Top Right graph. People are living longer nowadays. Why yes they are! (So?) Bottom left graph. People are producing more nowadays. Why yes they are! (So?) Bottom Right graph. There are far more people on the earth nowadays. Why yes there are!!! (So?) Ah I get it!!! The hockey stick, that has been debunked, is all that's really important to you. I must say, you are a true science fiend. You can grasp the pertinent nugget just like that. So maybe, people living longer, and producing more, and far more of them, produces far more greenhouse gasses like CO2? Oh an BTW, by these VERY graphs show that CO2 and Temperature are both rising starting when humans started appearing on the earth? That's not actually true is it? I'm sure Al Gore would interprit it that way in his movie. But, his movie has been ajudicated to be fantasy. So, perhaps there's other interpritations that would be more reasonable. Like an ice age ended where there had been some of the coldest climate on record and the world was going back to normal. boscox. It looks like you made Al Gore's point better then he ever could! Wow! Is that what you see? Maybe you should recuse yourself on the grounds of being a dumbass!

BoscoX -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 1:39:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Id like to wish everyone a very happy earth day. Even tho its a sad earth... I couldnt get out to the march today(local one) but it looks (so far) that more turned out across the country than were at the inauguration.yes I had to go there I wont get any more partisan than this... Without science, Donald Trump would be bald. oh and this... [image]http://i.imgur.com/O3yrU6d.jpg[/image] Typical cartoonish fantasy spew

Lucylastic -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 1:58:58 PM)
Thats because you have the IQ and mien of an angry snapping turtle. have a care for the planet.

Lucylastic -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 2:47:09 PM)
Yeah im a traitor to the cause, My white kids will be taking my white ol man an my ol white ass out for our 29th wedding anniversary this evening... Im sure it will pop up in conversation often, NOT. keep dreaming sharia man.

AtUrCervix -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/23/2017 4:59:03 PM)
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Musicmystery -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/24/2017 4:10:32 AM)
Well said. One of the most reasonable responses in the entire thread.

BoscoX -> RE: Americans agree on climate change until partisan language intervenes (4/24/2017 5:13:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Yeah im a traitor to the cause, My white kids will be taking my white ol man an my ol white ass out for our 29th wedding anniversary this evening... Im sure it will pop up in conversation often, NOT. keep dreaming sharia man. You're not the first self-loathing white leftist, and you won't be the last Of course it's a white man in your cartoon fantasy, you are so knee jerk in your brainwashed condition that you don't even think to question it

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