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Hillwilliam -> Deport ALL illegals (4/28/2017 4:01:18 PM)

Including the First Lady.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-hardline-immigration-091723025.html




jlf1961 -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (4/28/2017 5:10:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Including the First Lady.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-hardline-immigration-091723025.html



So, President Trump married what appears to be an illegal immigrant who basically married to gain US citizenship...

Thus committing an act of Fraud, an impeachable offense.

At least this is what the story is implying by addressing some of the people that have been or will be deported since the President started his get tough immigration policy.


Now considering how many foreign visitors in the US have worked part time or even full time on student and visitor visas, we might be able to get rid of 90% of the people that are here at least semi legally, and then be stuck with all the illegals.




MrRodgers -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (4/28/2017 8:46:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Including the First Lady.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-hardline-immigration-091723025.html



So, President Trump married what appears to be an illegal immigrant who basically married to gain US citizenship...

Thus committing an act of Fraud, an impeachable offense.

At least this is what the story is implying by addressing some of the people that have been or will be deported since the President started his get tough immigration policy.


Now considering how many foreign visitors in the US have worked part time or even full time on student and visitor visas, we might be able to get rid of 90% of the people that are here at least semi legally, and then be stuck with all the illegals.

Sure could have been marriage fraud. I think we should have a congressional committee look into it.

But then to expect better from this crowd, has been and is getting even more ridiculous...by the day.




Edwird -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (4/28/2017 9:53:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Including the First Lady.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-hardline-immigration-091723025.html



So, President Trump married what appears to be an illegal immigrant who basically married to gain US citizenship...

Thus committing an act of Fraud, an impeachable offense.

At least this is what the story is implying by addressing some of the people that have been or will be deported since the President started his get tough immigration policy.


But . . .

No Saks Fifth Avenue or Bergdorf Goodman green card for shopping?

This intolerance must stop!




DesideriScuri -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 12:50:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
So, President Trump married what appears to be an illegal immigrant who basically married to gain US citizenship...


The burden of proof will be on the investigators, regarding why they married.

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Now considering how many foreign visitors in the US have worked part time or even full time on student and visitor visas, we might be able to get rid of 90% of the people that are here at least semi legally, and then be stuck with all the illegals.


Who says immigrants on student of visitor visas can't work?




Musicmystery -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 12:59:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri


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Now considering how many foreign visitors in the US have worked part time or even full time on student and visitor visas, we might be able to get rid of 90% of the people that are here at least semi legally, and then be stuck with all the illegals.


Who says immigrants on student of visitor visas can't work?


The US government sets restrictions:
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/studying-abroad/can-you-work-part-time-us-student-visa

And a student on a visa isn't an immigrant:
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/72/~/what-is-the-difference-between-an-immigrant-visa-vs.-nonimmigrant-visa-%3F




WhoreMods -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 12:59:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Who says immigrants on student of visitor visas can't work?


USCIS, for a start. You can't even take a job on your university campus in your freshman year, and that's all that's legally allowed thereafter. I think there are fairly stringent restrictions on just what your university can pay you to do, as well.
ETA: Beaten to the draw again. Oh well.




Musicmystery -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 1:01:55 PM)

Not true. From the link above:

On-campus employment with a US student visa


Your US student visa allows you to work on-campus up to 20 hours per week when school is in session and full-time during school break periods (up to 40 hours per week).

On-campus employment is defined as work that takes place on campus, or at an off-campus location that is affiliated with the school. That could mean working in a university bookstore, cafeteria or other facilities where students can help.

In order to get this type of job, you will be required to apply for it up to 30 days before the start of classes. In order to apply, talk to your DSO. If you are approved, your DSO will provide you with a letter of approval, which you will need in order to get a Social Security Number (SSN).

Off-campus employment with a US student visa


Things can get a little more complicated if you wish to work off-campus, but there are some training programs that F1 students can get permission to work under.

As you would expect, off-campus employment is work that that takes place outside of the school campus. It is not impossible to obtain, but it’s only available to F1 students who have completed at least one full academic year of their program of study, and who have an economic hardship that qualifies for the Department of Homeland Security’s emergent circumstances.

There are two programs especially created for students who wish to gain experience in their field of study: Optional Practical Training (OPT) and Curricular Practical Training (CPT). To check if you are eligible, discuss these with your DSO.




Now...some colleges don't offer work study until the second year, but that's not a visa issue.





WhoreMods -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 1:14:42 PM)

Got you. Not actively forbidden, but deliberately rendered tricky, then.
(It is nice that they've got a workaround the red tape set up for students who need to do a work placement as part of their course, though.)




Musicmystery -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 1:17:06 PM)

Having done it as an undergrad, and seeing it as faculty, work-study is just a glorified tuition-reduction.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 1:53:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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Now considering how many foreign visitors in the US have worked part time or even full time on student and visitor visas, we might be able to get rid of 90% of the people that are here at least semi legally, and then be stuck with all the illegals.

Who says immigrants on student of visitor visas can't work?

The US government sets restrictions:
https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/studying-abroad/can-you-work-part-time-us-student-visa
And a student on a visa isn't an immigrant:
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/72/~/what-is-the-difference-between-an-immigrant-visa-vs.-nonimmigrant-visa-%3F


So, there are restrictions" to who can or can't work? That doesn't sound like they aren't allowed to work....

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Who says immigrants on student of visitor visas can't work?

USCIS, for a start. You can't even take a job on your university campus in your freshman year, and that's all that's legally allowed thereafter. I think there are fairly stringent restrictions on just what your university can pay you to do, as well.


Actually, it's on-campus only your first year, and then employment can be off-campus, under certain circumstances, the main one being that it has to be related to your curricular studies.

Which, btw, doesn't mean those on student visas can't work, which was being questioned.




Musicmystery -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 1:55:55 PM)

Read the two posts above you. We've already been here.

Glad you made it. Rest a bit. Care for a smoothy?




Termyn8or -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 9:43:36 PM)

FR

On a related note, and this is weird but our of 300 million people...

In Arizona, a state that is very against immigration, especially illegal immigration, they found a female cop who was illegal. She was o the force for years, not a problem, did her job. But in one of their investigative sweeps it turns up that she is technically not a citizen.

But they gave her a badge (license to kill) and a gun (the tool) and set her out about us USians. Far as I remember though, she had no major issues, it is just that immigrant-o-phic Arizona apparently ran a sweep on all public employees.

As far as I read about it, she did not even know. I am not quite sure how that can happen but I don't know everything. Certain situation, whatever. And as far as I gleaned from articles at the time her record was pretty good, no impropriety or anything, graft, corruption, nothing. She raised, and I guess raised right as a US citizen, which unbeknownst to her she was not.

I do not know what happened to her. This is typical because people don't follow up because some new issue comes up. But now I wonder. To be President you have to be born here, but does that apply to cops ? The
Constitution says the President must be born here, but even senators and congress critters are not covered by that. So why would a cop, or even state trooper ? I am pretty sure she was a city cop. What do you think should happen to her ? I think nothing. If she does her job, pay her and call it a day. She probably busted a lowlife or two and made the city safer, and wrote a few traffic tickets and brought in some money via court costs. (in case you didn't know, they don't get the fine money, only the court costs, and that is why they went up, last time I was in court the court costs were $900)

But what do you do with someone who is doing good for their community, but just really does not know that they are illegal ?

T^T




Termyn8or -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/1/2017 9:46:55 PM)

nm

tried to edit a few typos andit did not go well. Deal with it




MrRodgers -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 12:55:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

nm

tried to edit a few typos andit did not go well. Deal with it

She has to go. Trump is deporting many just like her.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 1:21:34 AM)


American citizenship must be dear to her. She "stuck it out" through (17?) years, billions of dollars, a presidential campaign and all the abuse she's had to tolerate from assholes that just want to destroy her because of the person she married.

Whether her initial intent was marriage fraud or not, I think she's earned a pass (and the marriage passes INS muster, by the way).



Michael




klmpong -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 1:32:06 AM)

Just a side note FYI - "Court costs" go directly to judges retirement plans and do NOT go to reimburse the actual costs of running the court.




thompsonx -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 4:07:49 AM)


ORIGINAL: klmpong

Just a side note FYI - "Court costs" go directly to judges retirement plans and do NOT go to reimburse the actual costs of running the court.


Cite please




Canaille -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 4:40:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

nm

tried to edit a few typos andit did not go well. Deal with it

She has to go. Trump is deporting many just like her.



Her name is Carmen Figeuroa. Her brother applied for a passport and the State Dept found out her citizenship was hinky. She was a state trooper working narcotics, who has now had her name and picture splashed all over the news. Deportation for her would likely be a short trip to an unmarked grave. I wasn't able to find out her fate, but I sincerely hope the bureaucrats in charge saw fit to grant her some sort of asylum in recognition of her service and the danger it puts her in.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Deport ALL illegals (5/2/2017 5:28:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Read the two posts above you. We've already been here.
Glad you made it. Rest a bit. Care for a smoothy?


Then ignore my post. I reply when I have a reply. I'm not going to read everything and then reply. If you don't like doing it that way, don't do it that way. That's the way I do it. Don't like it? I don't give a fuck.




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