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North Korea declares a state of war while Trump would b... - 5/1/2017 8:15:24 PM   
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North Korea reported in the June 29 edition of the Christian Science Monitor:


North Korea says the United States has effectively declared war after US officials placed its leader Kim Jong Un on a list of sanctioned individuals who have committed human rights abuses.


Trump responded that meeting with KJu would be an honor because Kim is a clever fellow.

Does Trump have a foreign policy strategy? Does anyone know what it is?

What do you make of Trump's rhetoric and policies in East Asia?

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/1/2017 10:04:54 PM   
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I hate to break it to you Vince but Trump is not the asshole here. In fact if Kim decides to make more noises about attacking us or our shit, Trump might be the one to fix that. Hey Kim, you got planes, well tomorrow you won't have any fucking airstrips from which to fly them. Like he did with Syria, very little damage but damage in the right place. Got subs Kim ? Well I guess you can't really sink them but if all the people are dead...

And China, keep your mouth shut, we are not playing paddycake with this asshole anymore. I know we invaded their country, and so did France. That was before I could buy beer, get over it. Like with the Jews and their "holocaust". Fuck you, nobody who did that is even alive today, and most Vietnam vets are dead. I am pretty sure the people who sent them are dead, or at least most of them.

If I were Trump, and thought I don't have alot of confidence in him or his intelligence, he is ot the guy to fuck with. I would call Kim and ask if he likes to fly in airplanes. Because tomorrow you will not be able to do it. Bomb every airstrip in the country. Declare war against the US, what are you fucking nuts ?

Some President, I think Reagan said to deal fro a position of strength. Well a half trillion dollars a year, which dwarfs that whole country's economy says strength now doesn't it. We need to keep good relations with Russia and China. This pipsqueak means nothing in the world arena. If they ever hit one US or allied target, the world will be all behind the US military in going in there and straitening the situation out. Leave a beach towel on one of our ships and we level your capitol.

I don't know what's in this guy's mind but I bet it isn't grey matter.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/1/2017 10:10:35 PM   
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quote:

Does Trump have a foreign policy strategy? Does anyone know what it is?


Yes.
Protect America. Destroy the ability of our enemies to kill Americans. It is the prime duty of any President and that duty shapes his foreign policy. So, since Trump takes this duty very seriously then you can really know what to expect from him in any situation. You just don't know when and how much and you should not worry about that because he is not supposed to tell you.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/1/2017 10:13:00 PM   
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You ever see the movie "walking tall"?

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/1/2017 11:10:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

North Korea reported in the June 29 edition of the Christian Science Monitor:


North Korea says the United States has effectively declared war after US officials placed its leader Kim Jong Un on a list of sanctioned individuals who have committed human rights abuses.


Trump responded that meeting with KJu would be an honor because Kim is a clever fellow.

Does Trump have a foreign policy strategy? Does anyone know what it is?

What do you make of Trump's rhetoric and policies in East Asia?

Looks to me like a combination of force and flattery that just might work.

K.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 12:19:08 AM   
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I think now or very, very soon, I'd get the hell...out of Seoul. One big shot and there could be 100,000 - 200,000 and likely much more...dead their.

Plus most of military personnel that must remain. Most of those at USAG Yongsan would die I am sure and I am sure, inspire a US/S. Korean an invasion of the north.

BTW when did the US invade N. Korea ? It's my reading of history that the north invaded the south and we (the UN) got involved and drove the invaders back into the north whereupon an armistice was signed agreeing on the 38th parallel as the DMZ.


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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 2:06:27 AM   
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Seoul is like a cross between a Swiss chees and a rabbit warren, with miles of tunnels underneath it that were originally built as a system of bomb shelters for the local population. I doubt whether they are deep enough to withstand a nuclear bomb though. Not only that, they are so polluted with car/truck/bus fumes that more than ten minutes down there and you feel like your lungs have been sand-blasted. Good luck to the populace of Seoul.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 2:38:45 AM   
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Trump has a business mindset, where even with your enemies, you can still do business with.

I expected this. I expect that he will be willing to Meet North Korean leaders to try negotiation first.

I don't know why people are raising eye brows at this?

Because it's logical. Try peaceful negotiations FIRST. IF that Fails, then force be used.

But avoid actual conflict as much as possible.




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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 3:42:44 AM   
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I hate to break it to you Vince but Trump is not the asshole here.


Yes he is


In fact if Kim decides to make more noises about attacking us or our shit,

Where has he done this?

Trump might be the one to fix that. Hey Kim, you got planes, well tomorrow you won't have any fucking airstrips from which to fly them. Like he did with Syria,


Wrong again those airfields were operational in hours after the attack.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





And China, keep your mouth shut, we are not playing paddycake with this asshole anymore.


You tell em tuff guy.

I know we invaded their country, and so did France. That was before I could buy beer, get over it


France invaded korea in 1866 and got their ass spanked purple...that was before your great grandma was born dumbass.

most Vietnam vets are dead.

About two thirds are dead already

http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/personnel/vietvet.htm



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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 3:49:57 AM   
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Seoul is like a cross between a Swiss chees and a rabbit warren, with miles of tunnels underneath it that were originally built as a system of bomb shelters for the local population. I doubt whether they are deep enough to withstand a nuclear bomb though. Not only that, they are so polluted with car/truck/bus fumes that more than ten minutes down there and you feel like your lungs have been sand-blasted. Good luck to the populace of Seoul.


Your opinion is not supported by the facts.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 3:54:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

IBTW when did the US invade N. Korea ? It's my reading of history that the north invaded the south and we (the UN) got involved and drove the invaders back into the north whereupon an armistice was signed agreeing on the 38th parallel as the DMZ.

Civil war none of our business...except it is a major source of tungsten which is necessary for any micro-technical society. Our/un mandate was to evict the n.k. from s.k. but dougout doug went north all the way to the Chinese border and got his ass spanked purple for his efforts.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 3:57:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LTE


Protect America. Destroy the ability of our enemies to kill Americans.

The only time that the n.k. have killed amerikans is when amerikans invaded their country. The only time the n.k. have threatened to kill amerikans is if they try to invade again. It is amerika that is making n.k. an enemy not vice versa.





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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 3:59:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LTE

You ever see the movie "walking tall"?


Why do you think it is a good idea to base amerikan foreign policy on a movie?

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 5:29:15 AM   
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im curious troll---although probably not so much that i'll come back to view your answer...

the premise in your question is untenable. as if the American military and government, prior to the movie walking tall, never practiced the principles illustrated in it.

alternatively--that a principle from a movie only exists in a movie, and that the movie itself didn't draw that principle from history and human existence.

in short, your question doesn't arise rightly from LTE's statement.

what I just pointed out happens with you repeatedly.

so---are you really that dense? or is it your purpose to entertain yourself by asking inane questions?

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 5:54:54 AM   
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im curious troll---although probably not so much that i'll come back to view your answer...

Why post if you have no interest in response?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 5:58:49 AM   
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Vince you are old enough to know the answers.
your president is a laughing stock thru the whole World.
ps have a nice day, before he ruins something else.

Terri. lucky to be in U>K> xx

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 7:46:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: LTE


Protect America. Destroy the ability of our enemies to kill Americans.

The only time that the n.k. have killed amerikans is when amerikans invaded their country. The only time the n.k. have threatened to kill amerikans is if they try to invade again. It is amerika that is making n.k. an enemy not vice versa.







Well at least you got that right. In fact that is right about most of the world.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 11:02:51 AM   
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Here is a brief timeline of nuclear negotiations with NK. After you have read it perhaps you lot can suggest how Trump's meeting with Kim can solve the problem. I did not see the movie "Standing Tall" but from the sound of the title I cannot imagine what meaningful threat Trump could make to change Kim's ways.

Updated: April 2017

For years, the United States and the international community have tried to negotiate an end to North Korea’s nuclear and missile development and its export of ballistic missile technology. Those efforts have been replete with periods of crisis, stalemate, and tentative progress towards denuclearization, and North Korea has long been a key challenge for the global nuclear nonproliferation regime.

The United States has pursued a variety of policy responses to the proliferation challenges posed by North Korea, including military cooperation with U.S. allies in the region, wide-ranging sanctions, and non-proliferation mechanisms such as export controls. The United States also engaged in two major diplomatic initiatives in which North Korea agreed to abandon its nuclear weapons efforts in return for aid.

In 1994, faced with North Korea’s announced intent to withdraw from the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires non-nuclear weapon states to forswear the development and acquisition of nuclear weapons, the United States and North Korea signed the Agreed Framework. Under this agreement, Pyongyang committed to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program in exchange for aid.

Following the collapse of this agreement in 2002, North Korea claimed that it had withdrawn from the NPT in January 2003 and once again began operating its nuclear facilities.

The second major diplomatic effort were the Six-Party Talks initiated in August of 2003 which involved China, Japan, North Korea, Russia, South Korea, and the United States. In between periods of stalemate and crisis, those talks arrived at critical breakthroughs in 2005, when North Korea pledged to abandon “all nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs” and return to the NPT, and in 2007, when the parties agreed on a series of steps to implement that 2005 agreement.

Those talks, however, broke down in 2009 following disagreements over verification and an internationally condemned North Korea rocket launch. Pyongyang has since stated that it would never return to the talks and is no longer bound by their agreements. The other five parties state that they remain committed to the talks, and have called for Pyongyang to recommit to its 2005 denuclearization pledge.

SOURCE

Let's get real here, Trump is not going to muscle Kim into another agreement because Kim has nothing to fear from us. Please offer an alternative if you think I am wrong.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 11:05:30 AM   
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Here is a brief timeline of nuclear negotiations with NK. After you have read it perhaps you lot can suggest how Trump's meeting with Kim can solve the problem. I did not see the movie "Standing Tall" but from the sound of the title I cannot imagine what meaningful threat Trump could make to change Kim's ways.

You invaded them once already, and that achieved absolutely fuck all besides launching Alan Alda's career as an actor.

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RE: North Korea declares a state of war while Trump wou... - 5/2/2017 11:49:11 AM   
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North Korea reported in the June 29 edition of the Christian Science Monitor:


North Korea says the United States has effectively declared war after US officials placed its leader Kim Jong Un on a list of sanctioned individuals who have committed human rights abuses.


Trump responded that meeting with KJu would be an honor because Kim is a clever fellow.

Does Trump have a foreign policy strategy? Does anyone know what it is?

What do you make of Trump's rhetoric and policies in East Asia?


Btw: no news (except to some Americans maybe)

North Korea unilaterally declared the armistice invalid and being in a state of war in ... 2013!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

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