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WickedsDesire -> Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/2/2017 11:53:22 PM)

'Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu

Poor lulu :(


One of the UK's last killer whales was contaminated with "shocking" levels of a toxic chemical, scientists say.

The animal, called Lulu, was found dead on the Isle of Tiree in Scotland last year after becoming entangled in fishing lines.

But tests now reveal her body contained among the highest levels of polychlorinated biphenyls, or PCBs, ever recorded.

The chemicals were banned from the 1970s but are still in the environment. no shit!

Researchers now fear that other animals in Lulu's pod also have similarly high levels of contamination. The group, which is found off the west coast of Scotland, is thought to consist of just eight animals.

Dr Andrew Brownlow, head of the Scottish Marine Animal Stranding Scheme and veterinary pathologist at Scotland's Rural College (SRUC), told BBC News that Lulu had "shocking levels of PCBs".

He said: "The levels of PCB contamination in Lulu were incredibly high, surprisingly so. They were 20 times higher than the safe level that we would expect for cetaceans to be able to manage.

"That puts her as one of the most contaminated animals on the planet in terms of PCB burden, and does raise serious questions for the long-term survivability of this group (of UK killer whales)."

PCBs were used widely in industry during the last century.
The manmade chemicals are extremely stable, resistant to extreme temperatures and pressures, and have insulating properties. Because of this they were used in everything from plastics to paints and electrical equipment.

But after concerns about the toxicity to humans and animals was raised, a series of bans were put in place around the world from the 1970s onwards.

However the chemicals take a long time to break down and have lingered in the environment, particularly in landfill sites where they can leach into waterways and on into the sea.
They then build up in the marine food chain, which means top predators such as killer whales are particularly affected. Dolphins, porpoises are also susceptible.

PCBs are a global problem, but a recent study revealed that European waters are a hotspot because of the level of the chemicals once used.

It is estimated that there is a million tonnes of PCB-contaminated material waiting to be disposed in Europe.

But getting rid of them is expensive and difficult - they need to be incinerated at more than 1,000C to be destroyed.

Thats the problem with pollution it tends not to go anywhere, save in ever concentrated levels in the water cycle and food chains - looking good mother earth! Anyhoo I could do with a nice plate of fish and chips and mercury. Naturlly washed down with a nice cool refreshing glass of Flint tap water - heh see all that lead from petrol(gasoline) - its still there you know - and that same guy also invented/first usage CFCs

Doctor Thomas Midgley Jr. (May 18, 1889 – November 2, 1944) was an American mechanical engineer and chemist. He was a key figure in a team of chemists, led by Charles F. Kettering, that developed the tetraethyllead (TEL) additive to gasoline as well as some of the first chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

Still I think this nice fellow called Trump will see no further harms comes to the environment and he will lead (the world) by example.







thompsonx -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 3:22:50 AM)


ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


Still I think this nice fellow called Trump will see no further harms comes to the environment and he will lead (the world) by example.

You might want to have your pcb levels checked.




WhoreMods -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 4:16:47 AM)

I just hope the guy's right that this is something the creature soaked up years ago, rather than something that's still moving up the food chain in the Scottish fisheries...




WickedsDesire -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 4:31:48 AM)

I get all by pcb's from boscox & ninja by the truck load What! I can say that surely?

Not far from where i stay we had one of those incinerators, closed about 25-30 years ago and there were allegations of linking it to an abnormally high amount of birth defects in whereeverthefukitisistay.

PCBs – nope that muck is going nowhere and they (the world) have 1 million plus tonnes awaiting incineration – and that’s the stuff they haven’t buried in a rusty tin cans everywhere

Oh that reminds me this one too 'Fossil' groundwater's modern secret

The world's oldest and deepest waters are not immune from contamination, warn scientists.

It had been assumed that "fossil" reserves found hundreds of metres underground would be largely untouched by modern water sources.
But sampling from some 10,000 wells shows this not to be the case.

The new study reveals that about half of the deep groundwater has had contact with rains and snows that fell in the past 60 years.
And that means these ancient aquifers are also at some risk from pollution if waste and land management practices are defective.
(no comment)

Mind you i am partial to some ethyl-pterodactyl in my fossil water with a brain chaser (literally scare the brains right out of your skull) of that death brew from Flint - anyone heard from anyone in Flint recently?




WhoreMods -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 4:56:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Mind you i am partial to some ethyl-pterodactyl in my fossil water with a brain chaser (literally scare the brains right out of your skull) of that death brew from Flint - anyone heard from anyone in Flint recently?




I think Lulu took her pod there on holiday a year or two back?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 6:14:19 AM)

Tis why me and the cats stick to puddle water and chardonnay – obviously the cats don’t drink chardonnay as they prefer whiskey.




blnymph -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 7:09:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

I just hope the guy's right that this is something the creature soaked up years ago, rather than something that's still moving up the food chain in the Scottish fisheries...

It is - moving up the food chain - not only in Scotland but everywhere.

PCB is hardly biologically degradable, insoluble in water, highly soluble in fat, permeates skin, does not burn, needs temperatures far above 1000° C to break up, not to forget toxic. It simply does not vanish by itself. It perfectly accumulates in organisms. Like in whales, like in us.




WhoreMods -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 7:32:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: blnymph


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

I just hope the guy's right that this is something the creature soaked up years ago, rather than something that's still moving up the food chain in the Scottish fisheries...

It is - moving up the food chain - not only in Scotland but everywhere.

PCB is hardly biologically degradable, insoluble in water, highly soluble in fat, permeates skin, does not burn, needs temperatures far above 1000° C to break up, not to forget toxic. It simply does not vanish by itself. It perfectly accumulates in organisms. Like in whales, like in us.


Thanks; I know the stuff bioaccumulates the same way as heavy metals do, and that the best test going for the stuff is how much is concentrated in a dead apex predator's carcass. I just meant that the suggestion that this is something that an elderly whale (I think they live fifty or sixty years?) was exposed to decades ago when the stuff was still commonly being dumped in the sea is vastly preferable to another shitload of PCBs having been added to the creature's local food chain more recently.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 8:26:27 AM)

^ can also read so presume unless he directly asks a question he probably knows, or at least has read all of the original source and if dubious has researched other sources...dont look at me i didn't want to point out the obvious...besides isnt there a shark roaming the Thames - London pumps/outflows 100 million gallons of raw sewage annually into that river you know...actually its higher than 100...hmm wait
Thames Water has said the current systems overflow on a weekly basis, flushing 39 million tonnes of raw sewage straight into the Thames each year. The company said in 2013, 55 million tonnes of sewage polluted the river.


Thames Water has been fined a record £20m after pumping 1.9 billion litres of untreated sewage into the River Thames.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29175607

How is the English tap water anyway

that aside is this a joke story or not? http://cbsnews.com.co/christian-anti-masturbations-mascot-arrested/ Christ its not is it I just hit the googlers there




WickedsDesire -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 8:40:12 AM)

Bioaccumulation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaccumulation. I only found out they had a name for it today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl - not sure its natrual life cycle unless someone can point me to a source. But i imagine the stuff builds up for years, and many more decades to come, in part due to leeching from landfill sites into the water cycle.

its a bit like storing nuclear waste there is simply no safe way to do it

Ah I fondly remember after sunset driving past the incinerator what colours of smoke will I see tonight - green, purple etc Another part of me seems to remember reading that they burnt, whatever the fuk they were licensed to burn, at 600-800c - take this with a pinch of salt as my memory can be funny at times






outlier -> RE: Shocking' levels of PCB chemicals in UK killer whale Lulu (5/3/2017 4:54:10 PM)

Thank you for posting this.

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