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jlf1961 -> RE: Russia planting nukes on US coast (5/3/2017 3:09:24 PM)
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First as to the claim of mole nukes off the US coasts, considering that radio signals will not travel well through water, these devices would have to be connected by some sort of wire to a floating antenna.
Which would make their location rather obvious.
Secondly, a nuclear weapon large enough to generate a tsunami as described would be too large to deliver by missile or aircraft. You would need a nominal yield that would equal the amount of energy released during the Krakatoa eruption of 1883 to generate the wave, a large number of even the largest would not have the yield to do much more than generate a wave of about 30 feet.
The last test in the pacific test range was of an undisclosed yield termed "ultra high yield" that was too large to by delivered by any method short of assembly on the atoll where the test was conducted.
It managed to generate a 20 foot wave that dissipated after about 8 miles from ground zero.
The physics behind the tsunami wave is actually quite interesting, when you consider that you are moving Billions of tons of sea water over a large area. Tsunamis involve the entire water column of the ocean from point of origin and that mass of water is moving at hundreds of miles per hour.
A normal ocean wave is different. If you put a ball in the surf of a beach, the ball moves in a circle because the water it is floating on is not actually moving.
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Another claim that's disturbing if true: Russia has developed and fielded a system that can disable the electronic systems on U.S. military assets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI4uS307ydk
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The weapon is known as a non nuclear electromagnetic pulse generator per DARPA.
The US began working on the idea back in the late seventies when an Lawrence Livermore Labs physicist was lucky enough to be near a rather large electrical transformer as it was hit by lightening (his words) and the electronics in his car were knocked out by the emp the exploding transformer generated.
The early prototype he developed was mounted on a military 5 ton truck and was accompanied by a second five ton truck with a freaking huge generator on it.
Further research developed smaller units, and there was an experimental side program during the "Star Wars" strategic defense programs that looked into building a system that could generate a large enough pulse over the Soviet Union, again without the high atmosphere detonation of high yield nuclear devices.
In the late 90's the program had reached a point where ground and air mounted units could theoretically be deployed (some conspiracy theorists claim that the TACOMA airborne command posts are equipped with these with the plan of knocking out the electronics within the US.
As a side note to this as well as other programs begun during the Strategic Defense initiative, it must be noted that six out of the 12 shuttle missions that were supposedly putting spy satellites in orbit had researchers connected to high power laser systems as well as those working on the EMP weapons systems sitting at the payload monitoring stations at mission control during those six launches.
However, it must also be noted that as of the late 90's a program was developed to shield US military vehicles and personal electronic devices against EMP, and the program continues with new equipment taking the field.
Russian military has been doing the same thing.
It must also be noted that the current technology used in most commercial electronics used in the automotive industry would suffer only a temporary shutdown of the systems in the event of an EMP event, and could be restarted after a few minutes.
The real threat is to the Electric utilities, since such an event would pretty much fry the transformers and put the grid out of action for months if not years depending on the area affected.
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Putin is planting 'mole nukes' in the sea to drown America in huge tsunami, Russian claims
California first, please.
I feel ya with that. I'd end up with some nice beach front property. But, below Lucy has another article and it mentions the right coast. What I think would be better is if they seeded the San Andreas fault with the nukes and finally dropped the left half of California into the ocean.
That would take out me, my children and four of my five grandsons. If you wanna take out the baby, he is in SC.
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The problem with your idea of part of California sliding into the ocean is that the San Andreas is a strike slip fault, not a subduction fault, such as the arcadia subduction zone that stretches from extreme northern California up to off the coast of British Columbia.
When the San Andreas moves, the eastern edge moves south, the western side moves north.
This means that in about a million years, the drive from LA to San Francisco will take about 45 minutes.
Any subsidence along the fault is minimal and from geologic records (meaning the guys that went out and looked at rocks along the faults) has been less than a foot.
However, there are parts of California that since the adoption of paved roads have seen roads shift along the fault as much as 3 feet.
And again, the necessary yield for a nuclear device to trigger a catastrophic event along the fault would be larger than any currently deployed, about 20000 times that of the Tsar Bomba a soviet made 57 megaton thermonuclear device.
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