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kdsub -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 1:46:33 PM)

And if we want to place blame for not assuming responsibility for the terrorism of the IRA it is and was the followers of two religions...not the religions themselves. When enough Catholics and Protestants , and eventually this is what happened, decided enough is enough the violence ended. We need Muslims to say enough is enough.

Butch




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 1:51:50 PM)

It is very desperate to try to call Catholics "terrorists" on par with Muslims when the war in Ireland was a civil war against a real imperialist power, to gain independence

Terrorism was used, but not for global domination as is the case with Muslims. It was used after British soldiers massacred civilian protesters to drive the colonialist power out of Northern Ireland

So it's the exact opposite with Muslims, who have always used and continue to use terrorism for conquest and colonization, while your Irish friends used it to reverse that sort of thing on the part of Great Britain





WickedsDesire -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 1:54:47 PM)

I hate all religions sorry :(

Penn said
Islam is wrong
Christianity is wrong
Judaism is wrong

I agree, and then he goes onto talk about refugees suffering -and they do in ways beyond most peoples comprehension

3500 hundred peon I looked that up a bit ago- heh the usa used to think the IRA was a charity ;)





PeonForHer -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 1:59:30 PM)

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It is very desperate to try to call Catholics "terrorists" on par with Muslims when the war in Ireland was a civil war against a real imperialist power, to gain independence


Oh for fuck's sake, Bosco. It's clear from that comment that you've missed so many points that I can't even be arsed to begin to answer you.




kdsub -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:02:31 PM)

It all in the perspective... but we can blame, and rightly so, the people that choose violence and those that let it happen.

Remember the majority were for independence not like Islam where supposedly the vast majority are against terrorism.

Butch




kdsub -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:05:17 PM)

I think we just disagree on the basic premise... so be it.

Butch




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:25:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It all in the perspective... but we can blame, and rightly so, the people that choose violence and those that let it happen.

Remember the majority were for independence not like Islam where supposedly the vast majority are against terrorism.

Butch


That's a myth, a lie

The vast majority of Muslims support the Koranic teachings and other teachings which demand violence

And they know to lie to outsiders about their cult teachings as well, but anyone can look up their teachings online, their book verses and videos of Imams teaching hate and violence in Mosques, and see the truth for themselves

Look at their history, nearly 300 million dead by their hands. Look at Muslim lands, where infidels no longer exist because we have been almost completely eliminated in many cases

And we see daily reports of more infidels targeted wherever Muslims and infidels coexist, and reports of Muslims even terrorizing other Muslims

The truth is all around us, though some refuse to see




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:32:07 PM)

Muslim terror attacks in the last 30 days: A list

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Date Country City Killed Injured Description

2017.05.09 Afghanistan Parwan 9 0 At least eight children and a teacher are sent straight to Allah by a bomb planted in their seminary classroom.
2017.05.08 Somalia Mogadishu 8 25 Islamists stage a suicide bombing and a shooting attack on an Italian coffee café, killing eight patrons.
2017.05.08 Bangladesh Mymensingh 1 0 An Ahmadi imam is hacked to death in his own mosque by three seminary students.
2017.05.06 Egypt Rafah 3 0 A father and two sons are found beheaded a few days after being kidnapped by the Islamic State.
2017.05.06 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 A Coptic minority is shot to death by radical Muslims at a barber shop.
2017.05.04 Nigeria Konduga 5 6 Two Shahid suicide bombers murder five others, including a young girl.
2017.05.03 Iraq Mosul 1 12 Islamic terrorists fire a missile into a high school, killing one student.
2017.05.03 Pakistan Rahim Yar Khan 1 0 A 63-year-old Ahmadi religious minority is brutally gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2017.05.03 Afghanistan Kabul 8 25 Eight civilians are torn limb from limb by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.05.02 Iraq Mosul 1 1 A child is vaporized by an Islamic State projectile.
2017.05.02 Iraq Anbar 10 6 Islamists with machine-guns slaughter ten Iraqis point-blank.
2017.05.02 Iraq Kirkuk 2 0 An oil company executive and his driver are assassinated by sharia advocates.
2017.05.02 Mali Nampala 9 4 A Jihadist attack leaves nine others dead.
2017.05.02 Iraq Samarra 2 3 Two Shiites are blown up by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2017.05.02 Syria Rajim Salibi 46 34 A 3-month-old baby is among forty-six refugees proudly massacred by Islamic State suicide bombers.
2017.05.02 Egypt Yamit 1 3 A woman is murdered during a home invasion by Islamic State members.
2017.05.02 Iraq Mosul 9 0 A suspected Shiite suicide bomber blows up nine Sunni militants.
2017.05.02 Pakistan Nishtar 2 0 A married couple is shot to death by conservative Muslims in the name of 'honor'.
2017.05.01 Afghanistan Ghormach 5 4 Five local cops are murdered by fundamentalists.
2017.05.01 Afghanistan Chaparhar 3 0 A 9-year-old girl is among three civilians who lose their lives during an ISIS attack.
2017.05.01 Egypt Cairo 3 5 Islamic extremists open fire on a group of police, killing three.
2017.05.01 India Kulgam 7 0 Hizbul Mujhadeen slaughter five police and two bank employees.
2017.05.01 India Poonch 2 0 Pakistani terrorists kill and mutilate two border guards.
2017.05.01 Iraq Rifai 5 0 Islamic militants open fire on five young children searching for food, bringing down all five.
2017.05.01 Iraq Mosul 4 0 A family of four is exterminated by an ISIS rocket.
2017.04.30 Iraq Mosul 46 0 Forty-six civilians are executed by the Islamic State and hung from telephone poles.
2017.04.30 India Khanyar 1 5 Terrorist throw a grenade into the street, killing a civilian.
2017.04.30 Afghanistan Mazar-e-Sharif 2 5 Taliban bombers pick off a family on their way to a wedding.
2017.04.30 Syria Daraa 1 0 An alleged 'sorcerer' is beheaded by caliphate members.
2017.04.29 Iraq Bab al-Toub 14 20 Fourteen Iraqis are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.04.29 Yemen Lahij 1 8 An al-Qaeda attack leaves one dead.
2017.04.29 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar 1 10 One other person is killed when a suicide bomber detonates outside a market.
2017.04.29 Iraq Rifai 5 0 Four women and a child are executed for trying to flee the Islamic State.
2017.04.29 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three humanitarian workers are blown to bits by an ISIS rocket while distributing food.
2017.04.29 Germany Prien am Chiemsee 1 0 A woman is stabbed to death in front of her two children over her decision to leave Islam for Christianity.
2017.04.28 Saudi Arabia Qatif 1 0 A 33-year-old man is kidnapped from a café and executed by suspected Shiite radicals.
2017.04.28 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A suicide bomber detonates in a police station, killing three bystanders.
2017.04.28 Nigeria Manguzum 5 40 Five Nigerians are taken out by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2017.04.27 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A man is gunned down in front of his home by al-Shabaab.
2017.04.27 India Kupwara 3 0 Three security personnel lose their lives to an attack by Jaish-e-Mohammad.
2017.04.27 France Reunion 0 2 An Islamic radical shoots two police officers.
2017.04.27 Iraq Mosul 3 5 A suicide bomber kills three policemen tricked into trying to help him.
2017.04.27 Thailand Narathiwat 6 0 Muslim 'insurgents' murder six security personnel with a roadside bomb.
2017.04.27 Pakistan Faqirabad 2 0 Two people are gunned down at a rival mosque, one of whom was a cleric.
2017.04.26 Iraq Sakkar 2 5 An ISIS ambush of off-duty border guards leaves two dead.
2017.04.26 Pakistan Arbab Tapu 1 0 A teenage girl is honor killed by her religious brother and thrown into a well.
2017.04.26 Iran Mirjaveh 10 0 Ten border guards are ambushed and murdered by Jaish al-Adl.
2017.04.26 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 11 Four suicide bombers manage to take down one transit worker at a bus station.
2017.04.26 Nigeria Tse-Wuaswem 6 3 Militant Muslims hack a half-dozen farmers to pieces.
2017.04.25 Iraq Mahwala 4 3 Three children and an elderly man are exterminated by a Jihadi bombers.
2017.04.25 Iraq Rawah 3 0 Three civilians are shot to death at a market by members of the Islamic State.
2017.04.25 Egypt Rafah 4 4 A Fedayeen suicide bomber plows into a group of local tribesmen, killing four.
2017.04.25 Iraq Mosul 15 0 ISIS militants dress as soldiers and shoot civilians who are tricked into welcoming them.
2017.04.25 Pakistan Kontara 14 13 Four children and five women are among fourteen people pulled into pieces by a Jamaatul Ahrar bomb blast.
2017.04.24 India Pulwama 1 0 Islamic terrorists are suspected in the assassination of a secular party official.
2017.04.24 Iraq Hawija 25 0 Two dozen civilians are captured and executed for trying to flee the 'land of the caliphate'.
2017.04.24 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A child is found tortured to death by the Islamic State.
2017.04.24 Afghanistan Darqad 8 3 Sunni fundamentalists overrun a police checkpoint and murder eight officers.
2017.04.24 Nigeria Kanuri 3 2 A Shahid suicide bomber kills three bystanders.
2017.04.24 India Pinglan 1 0 Terrorists assassinate a local politician.
2017.04.24 Afghanistan Khost 4 8 Four security guards are murdered by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.04.23 Israel Tel Aviv 0 4 A Palestinian terrorist stabs four people.
2017.04.23 Iraq Rutba 10 20 At least ten others are killed by Islamic State terrorists.
2017.04.23 Iraq Hammam al-Alil 3 0 Suicide bombers detonate outside a refugee camp, killing three police.
2017.04.23 Somalia Galgala 8 3 An al-Qaeda linked group murders eight people with a roadside bomb.
2017.04.23 Syria Hudaidat 12 0 Two ISIS suicide bombers lay out a dozen others.
2017.04.23 Maldives Male 1 0 A liberal blogger is stabbed to death after expressing "unIslamic views."
2017.04.22 Philippines Patikul 1 0 A captive is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2017.04.22 Iraq Mosul 27 0 The Islamic State executes twenty-seven Iraqis.
2017.04.22 Iraq Mosul 7 5 Four women are among seven innocents dismantled by ISIS shrapnel.
2017.04.21 Pakistan Shinkoot 1 2 A child is killed when Jihadis bomb a rival mosque.
2017.04.21 Iraq Mosul 15 0 Fifteen civilians are executed for refusing to cooperate with the Islamic State.
2017.04.21 Iraq Mosul 4 8 Four Iraqis are blown to bits by Jihadi car bombers.
2017.04.21 Afghanistan Mazar-i-Sharif 163 74 Suicide bombers infiltrate a local army base and slaughter over one-hundred and sixty during Friday prayers.
2017.04.21 Russia Khabarovsk 2 1 An Islamic State gunman storms a government building and kills two people, including a visitor.
2017.04.20 Iraq Ramadi 2 0 Two children are disassembled by ISIS shrapnel.
2017.04.20 Iraq Baghdad 1 5 A bomb targeting Shia pilgrims takes catches one.
2017.04.20 Afghanistan Badakhshan 3 0 Religious extremists kill three locals with a roadside bomb.
2017.04.20 Egypt el-Arish 1 1 One person is left dead after a bombing by Islamic extremists.
2017.04.20 France Paris 1 2 An Islamic extremist sprays a police car with bullets along the Champs-Elysees, killing one officer.
2017.04.20 India Gopalpura 1 1 A Hindu is stabbed by Muslim radicals for criticizing the Islamic call to prayer over loudspeakers.
2017.04.20 Pakistan Qazi Kilay 1 1 Islamic State gunmen kill a cleric at a rival mosque.
2017.04.19 Pakistan Shamshato 1 0 A cleric is shot to death at a refugee camp by Islamic rivals.
2017.04.19 Pakistan Nangal Mirza 1 0 Three sisters praise Allah as they shoot a 'blasphemer' to death.
2017.04.19 Thailand Narathiwat 2 3 A string of bomb and shooting attacks by Muslim militants leaves two dead.
2017.04.19 Afghanistan Qades 4 3 Four local cops are gunned down by the Taliban.
2017.04.19 Cameroon Kokofata 4 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends five souls to Allah.
2017.04.19 Syria Raqqa 2 0 A 6-year-old is recruited to help behead two captives on video in the name of Allah.
2017.04.19 Nigeria Borno 3 2 A second Boko Haram attack in as many days leaves three others dead.
2017.04.18 USA Fresno, CA 3 0 Three men are gunned down at random by a convert to Islam yelling praises to Allah.
2017.04.18 Iraq Thawra 16 0 Women and children are among sixteen innocents cleared out by ISIS bombers.
2017.04.18 Iraq al-Baghdadi 1 2 A Shahid suicide bomber takes one Iraqis with him.
2017.04.18 Pakistan Punjab 1 0 A female Ahmadi professor is stabbed to death by Islamic radicals in her home.
2017.04.18 Mali Gourma-Rharous 4 1 A Jihadist attack leaves four others dead.
2017.04.18 Egypt Sinai 1 4 Radicals fire on a historic Christian monastery, killing a guard.
2017.04.18 Somalia Mogadishu 5 7 Islamists fire a shell into a school, killing a teacher and four students.
2017.04.18 Nigeria Borno 5 5 A Boko Haram attack leaves five dead.
2017.04.18 Afghanistan Shenkai 2 4 Two policemen are murdered by a Sunni radical group.
2017.04.17 Philippines Bohol 2 0 An elderly couple is slain by suspected Abu Sayyaf.
2017.04.17 Pakistan Karak 3 2 A woman is among three family members cut down by the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.
2017.04.16 Somalia Mogadishu 2 2 al-Shabaab members fire mortars at an airport, killing two civilians.
2017.04.16 Syria Harabesh 3 11 Women are among the dead when Sunni radicals send rockets into a neighborhood.
2017.04.16 India Bandipora 1 0 A civilian is shot and killed by Islamic militants.
2017.04.16 Somalia Hosingo 5 4 Five Kenyans are laid out by al-Shabaab bombers.
2017.04.16 India Pinjoora 1 0 Terrorists shoot a lawyer to death in his home.
2017.04.15 India Qasbayarof 1 0 Suspected Sunni militants gun down a civilian.
2017.04.15 Nigeria Asso 12 5 Fulani gunmen invade a village and mow down a dozen residents in an attack targeting Catholics.
2017.04.15 Syria Aleppo 126 55 A suicide bomber plows into bus convoy carrying refugees, killing over one-hundred and twenty-five, including sixty-eight children.
2017.04.14 Afghanistan Nawa 11 14 Fundamentalists plant a landmine on a road that takes down eleven civilians.
2017.04.14 Iraq Baghdad 2 4 Jihadis bomb a market, killing two bystanders.
2017.04.14 Israel Jerusalem 1 0 A Palestinian terrorist stabs a 20-year-old female tourist from Britain to death on a train during Passover.
2017.04.14 Pakistan Yakatoot 1 0 A cleric is gunned down on his way to mosque by Religion of Peace rivals.
2017.04.13 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A doctor is assassinated outside his clinic by suspected sectarian Jihadis.
2017.04.13 Iraq Baghdad 2 4 Mujahideen bomb blasts at a fish market leave two dead.
2017.04.13 Pakistan Tibbi Goriyan 4 0 Three women and a man are gunned down by conservative Muslims in an 'honor'-related attack.
2017.04.13 Nigeria Dalori 1 1 A suicide bomber kills one other person.
2017.04.13 Pakistan Mardan 1 2 A university student is lynched by a Muslim mob over alleged 'blasphemy'. Two others are badly beaten.
2017.04.12 Iraq Ramadi 8 0 Women and children are among eight victims of a Mujahideen car bomb blast.
2017.04.12 Afghanistan Kabul 5 5 A suicide bomber on foot blows away five bystanders.
2017.04.12 Somalia Mogadishu 3 0 Three civilians die when al-Shabaab send a mortar round into an apartment building.
2017.04.11 Iraq Mosul 7 5 Seven cleaners are blown to bits by ISIS shrapnel.
2017.04.11 Iraq Mosul 38 7 A massive bombardment of Islamic State rockets on a residential area buries five families.
2017.04.11 Nigeria Inundugh 5 0 Five villagers are slaughtered by Fulani terrorists.
2017.04.11 Philippines Bohol 4 0 At least four others are killed when Abu Sayyaf open fire on police.
2017.04.11 Iraq Mosul 2 0 The two children of an imam are shot dead at a mosque for his refusal to help the caliphate.
2017.04.11 Iraq Hadba 7 13 Three well-placed Islamic State shells claim the lives of seven civilians.
2017.04.10 Somalia Somalia 1 0 A man dies from injuries after Islamists plant a bomb under his car.
2017.04.10 Iraq Mosul 4 6 Women and children are among four killed by an ISIS chlorine gas attack.
2017.04.10 Iraq Sawra 2 0 A pregnant woman and her husband are executed by the Islamic State.
2017.04.10 Philippines Basilan 3 11 An Abu Sayyaf ambush leave three others dead.
2017.04.10 Somalia Mogadishu 9 12 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out nine people.
2017.04.09 Syria Tanf 2 18 A double suicide attack on a border crossing leaves four others dead.
2017.04.09 Iraq Rukban 2 0 Two people are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber at a refugee camp.
2017.04.09 Iraq Hawija 12 0 A dozen civilians are executed by the Islamic State.
2017.04.09 Egypt Tanta 29 78 A suicide bomber blows up in the middle of a Palm Sunday service, taking out over two dozen Christians.
2017.04.09 Egypt Alexandria 18 48 A Fedayeen suicide bomber is stopped trying to enter a church. At least seventeen innocents are laid out in the blast.
2017.04.09 Somalia Mogadishu 17 0 A Shahid suicide bomber plows into a minibus, killing seventeen civilians.
2017.04.09 Afghanistan Darzab 4 0 Four local security personnel are ambushed and slain by militants fighting for a Sharia state.




kdsub -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:34:42 PM)

I'm not sure what you are calling a lie... And why you are arguing with me when we are more in agreement than not... At least we agree that Muslims must rise up against the radicalism within their religion or face the blame for said radicalism. It is time for the billions of peaceful Muslims to stand up and purge their religion of murderers.

Butch




WickedsDesire -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:43:56 PM)

fake news is a religion is it not boscox?

That reminds me who is king of the fake news?

Trump
Trump
Trump
Trump
Trump
Trump




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:47:01 PM)

I am calling the statement that "the vast majority (of Muslims) are against terrorism" a myth or a lie

They would have to reject the Koran and Islam itself, to reject the terrorism that the Koran teaches, even demands

Then they would no longer be Muslims, they would be apostates or infidels like us






WickedsDesire -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 2:50:58 PM)

do you know any mooselambs? I am curious boscox the vacant




Hillwilliam -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 4:53:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

And Muslims have destroyed every civilization in their path since the cult first began.

They didn't destroy the civilization in modern Day Romania.
It seems a few thousand of em had a big pole shoved up their ass.
Remember that story comrade? [:D]




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 5:45:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

And Muslims have destroyed every civilization in their path since the cult first began.

They didn't destroy the civilization in modern Day Romania.
It seems a few thousand of em had a big pole shoved up their ass.
Remember that story comrade? [:D]


They understand superior force, and that's it

Kinda like big chickens




DesideriScuri -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 5:49:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
If one does a simple Youtube search using: "Penn Jillette Leaving The Left", Mr. Jillette lays bear his reasons for being a Libertarian and it is a PERFECT (IMHO) explanation (Also, you might find the couple of videos that I found, while "falling down the Youtube hole" where Teller speaks!).
Michael


GREAT video!! Thanks for pointing to it!!

Then, I, too, fell down the YouTube hole. I look up, and it had been 35 minutes, and I was almost late to my son's choir recital.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 6:02:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
It seems to me that most everywhere in the world where there are Muslims there is violence in the name of Islam. Trying to excuse the followers of this religion by saying it is only a small percentage of the total population does not stop the killing.
There is a responsibility to be assumed by the peace loving followers of Mohammed to weed out the terrorists among them. As far as I can tell this is not happening as often as it should. If you only have a small number of terrorists among billions of peace loving Muslims then it should be a quick and simple process of pointing out terrorists to the authorities.
Until the murderous portion of Islam is ostracized from the religion then I think it is reasonable to hold the " FOLLOWERS" of the religion as a whole responsible. Terrorists could not survive without the support or apathy of their fellow Muslims.
Pointing out this failure to act is not condemning a religion but it is showing a lack of courage or conviction among it's followers.
Butch


I understand your point, Butch, but what is a Muslim to do in, say, NW Ohio, if there aren't any terrorists in the area to weed out? Must they then go to, say, Dearborn, Michigan, and see if there are any terrorists to weed out? After that, then what? How does an American Muslim bear a responsibility to weed out terrorists that are in the Middle East, if there is no connection, other than religious belief? What if their religious belief isn't the same (ie. Sunni or Shia) as the one espoused by the terrorists?

Do all Christians bear responsibility for the Catholic priests who were pedophiles? Or, just Catholics? Or, just Catholics in those dioceses, or that specific church?

I understand your point, but I'm willing to bet that most of the radicalized Muslims that are becoming terrorists aren't widely spread out across every continent and/or mosque. I'm willing to bet they are more concentrated, and, possibly, even concentrated within a handful of different flavors of Islam. Do you hold Gandhi responsible for the Thuggees?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 6:07:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
*Any* ideology is always there for whomever might want it and whenever it chimes with what a given group of people are into.
I don't get why so many people absolutely, unquestioningly, take it for granted that the ideology is the root cause of what people are. Why is that so 'self-evident'?
Is it not at least possible that a given group of people a) become, say, aggressive and warlike, *then* b) pick the religion (or aspects of a religion) that make their aggression look and feel 'real' and 'righteous' to them?


I don't think it works that way, PFH. But, your first statement is correct. Look at Fucktard Baptist Church (or whatever it was called). Certainly, they were not the typical Baptist church, and I doubt, very much, that a group of dickwads got together and chose the Baptist Religion because it allowed them to be douche-canoes.

I do think religious zealotry can lead a person down the wrong path, and into areas that are counter to the mainstream message of that religion.




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 6:12:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Do all Christians bear responsibility for the Catholic priests who were pedophiles? Or, just Catholics? Or, just Catholics in those dioceses, or that specific church?


The bible doesn't teach pedophilia, like the Koran teaches terrorism. And while Islam encourages terrorism, which is a fundamental part of islam everyone in the Christian West prosecutes pedophilia with extreme prejudice

Do you have any like-like comparisons to offer

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I understand your point, but I'm willing to bet that most of the radicalized Muslims that are becoming terrorists aren't widely spread out across every continent and/or mosque. I'm willing to bet they are more concentrated, and, possibly, even concentrated within a handful of different flavors of Islam. Do you hold Gandhi responsible for the Thuggees?



Wild guesses based on pure ignorance that are wrong

Any Muslim, anywhere can be and often is "radicalized" by the teachings of the Koran alone. The stated goal of Islam is world domination through militant conquest, with terrorism being the battle tactic of choice




DesideriScuri -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 6:18:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Do all Christians bear responsibility for the Catholic priests who were pedophiles? Or, just Catholics? Or, just Catholics in those dioceses, or that specific church?

The bible doesn't teach pedophilia, like the Koran teaches terrorism. And while Islam encourages terrorism, which is a fundamental part of islam everyone in the Christian West prosecutes pedophilia with extreme prejudice
Do you have any like-like comparisons to offer


Do you have any answer for the question asked? It's similar enough.

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quote:

I understand your point, but I'm willing to bet that most of the radicalized Muslims that are becoming terrorists aren't widely spread out across every continent and/or mosque. I'm willing to bet they are more concentrated, and, possibly, even concentrated within a handful of different flavors of Islam. Do you hold Gandhi responsible for the Thuggees?

Wild guesses based on pure ignorance that are wrong
Any Muslim, anywhere can be and often is "radicalized" by the teachings of the Koran alone. The stated goal of Islam is world domination through militant conquest, with terrorism being the battle tactic of choice


It can be argued that the unstated goal of the US Federal Government is world domination through imperialism.

How many Muslims have you ever met? How many Muslims have you crossed in your life that tried to kill you for not being a fellow Muslim? How many Muslims have you crossed in your life that didn't try to kill you for not being a fellow Muslim? I'm willing the truth to that last one would probably shock you.




BoscoX -> RE: Penn Jillette on Islam (5/9/2017 6:51:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Do you have any answer for the question asked? It's similar enough.


There is no similarity.

Zero.

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It can be argued that the unstated goal of the US Federal Government is world domination through imperialism.



Show me evidence that nearly 300 million souls (and counting) have been dispatched toward that goal (as is the case with Islam) and you might have something

Instead what we see is Germany and Japan etc, free and in charge of their own destinies rather than your bizarre little substituted reality. Have you been drinking "liberal" water from lead pipes or something, because I am referring to things hare in the real world

The American Indians warred with one another, warred with us, and we warred with them. Every society wars

Islam's stated goal is global domination in the name of Allah, no one else does that

We have no such stated goal, nor do we kill people every day toward that goal like Muslims do, and have been doing since the time of Mohammad

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How many Muslims have you ever met? How many Muslims have you crossed in your life that tried to kill you for not being a fellow Muslim? How many Muslims have you crossed in your life that didn't try to kill you for not being a fellow Muslim? I'm willing the truth to that last one would probably shock you.



The Muslims I have met impressed me with their stories from back home, about how their lands are lands of fascists

Why do you ask.




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