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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/14/2017 12:53:50 PM   
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Actually, that's the whole point of Trump's corruption or at least brazen incompetence. HE didn't take the risks...his lenders (and whoever contracted with him) took the risk and paid dearly for it.

In fact as I've written, IIRC, Fleet Bank had to merge with Bank of Boston after writing down a Trump loan. Furthermore, by the mid or late 90's, US lenders were all done lending to him and even Deutsch bank had to create a separate fund to lend to Trump and is itself now in trouble and is as we type, negotiating with Treas./DOJ on a fine to pay in the US and is also looking for a bailout from Germany/ECB, should it need one.

Looks like Europe will finally get in the game of creating/sustaining more billionaire socialists.

Oh and we didn't see other casinos owners go through what Trump and his lenders did. Yes, the economy always pays a role but they didn't put two overpriced ostentatious bullshit overpriced casinos less than 2 miles apart like asshair did in in NJ.

And regarding 'something for nothing'...Trump paid himself very well (million$) out of that borrowed money just for his bullshit, over-hyped name. I call that really something and...for nothing.


Just like the rest of your posts, shit that you made up. No sourcing, just almost pure fantasy



Yes, just like the rest of my posts, facts from a lot of research.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/14/2017 12:57:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Actually, that's the whole point of Trump's corruption or at least brazen incompetence. HE didn't take the risks...his lenders (and whoever contracted with him) took the risk and paid dearly for it.

In fact as I've written, IIRC, Fleet Bank had to merge with Bank of Boston after writing down a Trump loan. Furthermore, by the mid or late 90's, US lenders were all done lending to him and even Deutsch bank had to create a separate fund to lend to Trump and is itself now in trouble and is as we type, negotiating with Treas./DOJ on a fine to pay in the US and is also looking for a bailout from Germany/ECB, should it need one.

Looks like Europe will finally get in the game of creating/sustaining more billionaire socialists.

Oh and we didn't see other casinos owners go through what Trump and his lenders did. Yes, the economy always pays a role but they didn't put two overpriced ostentatious bullshit overpriced casinos less than 2 miles apart like asshair did in in NJ.

And regarding 'something for nothing'...Trump paid himself very well (million$) out of that borrowed money just for his bullshit, over-hyped name. I call that really something and...for nothing.


Just like the rest of your posts, shit that you made up. No sourcing, just almost pure fantasy



Yes, just like the rest of my posts, facts from a lot of research.


Reading far left wacko extremist blogs

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/14/2017 1:21:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Actually, that's the whole point of Trump's corruption or at least brazen incompetence. HE didn't take the risks...his lenders (and whoever contracted with him) took the risk and paid dearly for it.

In fact as I've written, IIRC, Fleet Bank had to merge with Bank of Boston after writing down a Trump loan. Furthermore, by the mid or late 90's, US lenders were all done lending to him and even Deutsch bank had to create a separate fund to lend to Trump and is itself now in trouble and is as we type, negotiating with Treas./DOJ on a fine to pay in the US and is also looking for a bailout from Germany/ECB, should it need one.

Looks like Europe will finally get in the game of creating/sustaining more billionaire socialists.

Oh and we didn't see other casinos owners go through what Trump and his lenders did. Yes, the economy always pays a role but they didn't put two overpriced ostentatious bullshit overpriced casinos less than 2 miles apart like asshair did in in NJ.

And regarding 'something for nothing'...Trump paid himself very well (million$) out of that borrowed money just for his bullshit, over-hyped name. I call that really something and...for nothing.


Just like the rest of your posts, shit that you made up. No sourcing, just almost pure fantasy



Yes, just like the rest of my posts, facts from a lot of research.


Reading far left wacko extremist blogs

Far left extremist blogs that think that Jeff Bozos isn't a lefty, yes.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/14/2017 1:44:54 PM   
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found


I'm neither far left nor an idiot, but I am useful, so first:

1) Walmart's problems stem from their manipulation of markets, not their success at it. Frankly, succeeding in discount retailing is remarkable. But they are a long way from the principles of Sam Walton who achieved it. Labor practices in particular are unfortunate.

2) Jeff Bezos, on the other hand, is a clever, innovative, quality-obsessed entrepreneur. Amazon is a remarkable achievement, and an admirable achievement. I shop locally, but I also use Amazon quite a bit.

3) Yes, large successful companies in the Internet age put pressure on local shops, but trying to make that unhappen makes no sense and would be market manipulation (and higher prices and fewer goods). Rather, small business need to adapt to take advantage of the opportunities they have. A small shop, for example, and clear inventory by selling all over the world through Amazon. I do business in North America, South America, Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Australia and Japan, for example...thanks to the Internet.

4) Same with robots replacing workers -- we have to adapt to take advantage of productivity and new possibilities. For example, when women math checkers at NASA saw their math jobs were threatened by computers, they learned computer programming instead.

5) That's the difference between progressive and conservative approaches -- we can't cling to the past and expect to thrive.

I researched Walmart and Walton and from the beginning, he established supplier relationships in China. After most favored nation trading status was allowed despite China being a communist foe allegedly, Walton just expanded th concept. I've often wondered how many college degrees did it take to figure out that one could make 1000's% profit of the oppressed Chinese labor.

KMart (Kresge) tried and failed to compete because they didn't go to China. And also didn't reinvest in their stores. Woolco (Woolworth) did the same. Their founders and real risk takers...were long gone.

The rest like Sears, JCPenny and Target either sat on their hands or failed to merge with the right partners. Thus there really is no competition to Walmart and their low wages set the floor everyone else tries to occupy. (Sears essentially invented the 2nd work shift and tried to ride that profit center and it house brands for 75 years and never madse a commitment to move its manufacturing (wholesale) to China. A big mistake. Target is slowly having to go that way but has found a middle niche.

Bozos set out as a single category killer in online retailing of books and then later diversifying to sell DVDs, Blu-rays, CDs, video downloads/streaming, MP3 downloads/streaming, audiobook downloads/streaming, software, video games, electronics, apparel, furniture, food, toys, and jewelry.

Then it went on an acquisition binge that has not abated having acquired 76 retailers mostly on the Internet. (a mere piker when it comes to entering markets by acquisition rather than by a start-up and hire people...where IBM and Cisco for example, just those two...acquired literally 1000's of companies just since 2000)

Robots are the future of all manual labor in and out of the household. They will eliminate several times the number of jobs they create.

The difference I see in what one night call progressive and conservative approaches is the understanding that the progressives realize it will take a serious tax reform regime to remove the egregious incentives from the advantages that capital has enjoyed in simply drawing far too much capital to buying and selling things...mostly paper, to the real innovation that creates products that will require a 'new' US workforce. Yes, that means education but it is very possible.

The modern conservative sees growth in numbers only and counts as producing more paper or property to buy and sell as something that adds to GDP...it does not. The whole concept is a ruse to make million$ from the golf course and pay 20% fed. tax.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 2:39:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found


U.S. Retail stocks get rolled by Amazon and other giant-on-liners. . . . hoot mon! . . . those are not mom and pop stores. Not any more. Moms and pops are out in the prairies and small towns selling crystal meth.

Nothing new though, is it? Sears and Montgomery Ward used to mail catalogues. That's the way the stool turns. New tech disrupts old tech.

psssst. . . . wanna buy a phone booth . . . nice and cheap. . . like new.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 5:33:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found



Dude...it happens.

Big guy opens the doors.

Little guy gets squeezed (because the big guy comes in...which the little guy could have....but didn't...get over it)....big guy gets bigger (because the little guy doesn't step up)...big guy gets bigger....

(Get over it).

(Big guy gets bigger still).

(Get over it).

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 5:53:39 PM   
BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found



Dude...it happens.

Big guy opens the doors.

Little guy gets squeezed (because the big guy comes in...which the little guy could have....but didn't...get over it)....big guy gets bigger (because the little guy doesn't step up)...big guy gets bigger....

(Get over it).

(Big guy gets bigger still).

(Get over it).


I didn't write anything like what you seem to be replying to. Read the words, rather than guess wrong what I wrote, okay

It's just interesting to me how leftists rail against Walmart, because they say it's too big and Walmart practices business in ways that make them very competitive

While this Bezos guy who makes Walmart look like a lemonade stand, practically owns the Democrats (read the thread headline for a clue), and leftists don't even seem to notice

It's like they're brain dead zombies or something

Quite bizarre

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 6:02:26 PM   
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Funny how Kochsuckers dont notice the Kochs. Funny how felchgobbling nutsuckers crave the Putinjizz.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 6:12:14 PM   
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Libertarian robber barons are leftists now?
You seem to have missed the complaints about Amazon's treatment of its employees and business practices in the leftist media, but I suppose you're not allowed to watch anything but Fox or read any of the papers.

Wow, troll on post 3.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 7:25:54 PM   
AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found



Dude...it happens.

Big guy opens the doors.

Little guy gets squeezed (because the big guy comes in...which the little guy could have....but didn't...get over it)....big guy gets bigger (because the little guy doesn't step up)...big guy gets bigger....

(Get over it).

(Big guy gets bigger still).

(Get over it).


I didn't write anything like what you seem to be replying to. Read the words, rather than guess wrong what I wrote, okay

It's just interesting to me how leftists rail against Walmart, because they say it's too big and Walmart practices business in ways that make them very competitive

While this Bezos guy who makes Walmart look like a lemonade stand, practically owns the Democrats (read the thread headline for a clue), and leftists don't even seem to notice

It's like they're brain dead zombies or something

Quite bizarre



You want to portray Bezos as some kind destroyer of retail.

"He's actuaqlly a destroyer of all that we know".

History is a fantastic guide (Schumpeter).

He's (Bezos) a destroyer of waste.

And if you look at your pocketbook....he rides on your coat tails.

(You've fed him).

You haven't purchased from WalMart/Home Depot/Lowes...in the last 24 months?

If you have....only once....you perpetuated the change.

Have you bought online recently (I haven't...not because I'm "PURE"....rather because I'm frightened of it).

But....you have...and therefore....you're contributing to the demise.

Did you buy a computer online?

(87.773% have).

They're contributing to the demise.

DUDE....pick a side...you are contributing to the fall you despise.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/15/2017 7:28:54 PM   
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You want to portray Bezos as some kind destroyer of retail.


You are totally lost, can't understand the written word

You reply to your wild guesses about what I wrote, apparently. Because you aren't responding to what I actually posted at all

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/16/2017 4:47:02 AM   
WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Libertarian robber barons are leftists now?
You seem to have missed the complaints about Amazon's treatment of its employees and business practices in the leftist media, but I suppose you're not allowed to watch anything but Fox or read any of the papers.

Wow, troll on post 3.

You have a very strange definition of trolling, you obnoxious little retard. Were you dropped on your head as a baby or something?
(That's trolling. Pointing out that somebody is talking utter nonsense and/or constructing an argument on false premises is not trolling. See the distinction?)

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/16/2017 7:30:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found



Dude...it happens.

Big guy opens the doors.

Little guy gets squeezed (because the big guy comes in...which the little guy could have....but didn't...get over it)....big guy gets bigger (because the little guy doesn't step up)...big guy gets bigger....

(Get over it).

(Big guy gets bigger still).

(Get over it).


I didn't write anything like what you seem to be replying to. Read the words, rather than guess wrong what I wrote, okay

It's just interesting to me how leftists rail against Walmart, because they say it's too big and Walmart practices business in ways that make them very competitive

While this Bezos guy who makes Walmart look like a lemonade stand, practically owns the Democrats (read the thread headline for a clue), and leftists don't even seem to notice

It's like they're brain dead zombies or something

Quite bizarre



You want to portray Bezos as some kind destroyer of retail.

"He's actuaqlly a destroyer of all that we know".

History is a fantastic guide (Schumpeter).

He's (Bezos) a destroyer of waste.

And if you look at your pocketbook....he rides on your coat tails.

(You've fed him).

You haven't purchased from WalMart/Home Depot/Lowes...in the last 24 months?

If you have....only once....you perpetuated the change.

Have you bought online recently (I haven't...not because I'm "PURE"....rather because I'm frightened of it).

But....you have...and therefore....you're contributing to the demise.

Did you buy a computer online?

(87.773% have).

They're contributing to the demise.

DUDE....pick a side...you are contributing to the fall you despise.

You can't turn back the clock
The motor car is here to stay
The bicycle has gone away
But something new will disrupt the motor car
And place its makers in distress
Schumpeter called that progress.

pssst. . . . wanna buy a phone booth . . . like new . . practically unused.

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/16/2017 3:02:09 PM   
AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4497398/Amazon-founder-Jeff-Bezos-vacations-Italy.html

And he is putting mom & pop and everyone else out of business as he builds his Democrat crony empire

https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/05/12/bloodbath-for-retail-stocks-rolls-on/

And the far left useful idiots, who have been brainwashed to rail and rage against Walmart, are very predictably nowhere to be found



Dude...it happens.

Big guy opens the doors.

Little guy gets squeezed (because the big guy comes in...which the little guy could have....but didn't...get over it)....big guy gets bigger (because the little guy doesn't step up)...big guy gets bigger....

(Get over it).

(Big guy gets bigger still).

(Get over it).


I didn't write anything like what you seem to be replying to. Read the words, rather than guess wrong what I wrote, okay

It's just interesting to me how leftists rail against Walmart, because they say it's too big and Walmart practices business in ways that make them very competitive

While this Bezos guy who makes Walmart look like a lemonade stand, practically owns the Democrats (read the thread headline for a clue), and leftists don't even seem to notice

It's like they're brain dead zombies or something

Quite bizarre



You want to portray Bezos as some kind destroyer of retail.

"He's actuaqlly a destroyer of all that we know".

History is a fantastic guide (Schumpeter).

He's (Bezos) a destroyer of waste.

And if you look at your pocketbook....he rides on your coat tails.

(You've fed him).

You haven't purchased from WalMart/Home Depot/Lowes...in the last 24 months?

If you have....only once....you perpetuated the change.

Have you bought online recently (I haven't...not because I'm "PURE"....rather because I'm frightened of it).

But....you have...and therefore....you're contributing to the demise.

Did you buy a computer online?

(87.773% have).

They're contributing to the demise.

DUDE....pick a side...you are contributing to the fall you despise.

You can't turn back the clock
The motor car is here to stay
The bicycle has gone away
But something new will disrupt the motor car
And place its makers in distress
Schumpeter called that progress.

pssst. . . . wanna buy a phone booth . . . like new . . practically unused.


(Exceptional).

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RE: Far Left Puppeteer Jeff Bezos Worth $81 Billion - 5/16/2017 7:05:32 PM   
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Thank you . . .

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