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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:40:59 AM   
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It seems now that the President did in fact share information about ISIS with the Russians. This information was given the US by a third party country on condition that their involvement be kept confidential.

The President does have the legal ability to reveal sources as he sees fit.... but it was irresponsible on his part. How can we be expected to obtain critical information if we cannot be trusted to keep in confidential?

As a side note... someone high up in Trump's inner circle is leaking damaging information. He should stop blaming his intelligence services and start tapping the shoulders of his white house staff.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:43:55 AM   
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As john fuselgang said earlier.
Yes, Trump revealed highly classified info to the Russian foreign minister; but in fairness it wasn't via email & he doesn't have a vagina


You think the tweet said that

Hilarious

Here in reality, the tweet said exactly what I have been saying

Despite alt left snowflakes paranoid delusions, heads of state meet.

Period.

Nothing unusual. As president, Donald Trump has the right - even the obligation, to meet with the Russians. What was the meeting about? Saving civilian lives on airliners, and beating back Muslim fundamentalists

And so a known Democrat crony (Jeff Bezos) throws out a few lies to the alt left fake news dependant crowd (that would be you) and this humanitarian effort becomes some sinister conspiracy theory

Which never happened, according to the people who were actually there (and despite Jeff Bezos' literally shady anonymous sources)

Despite being given the heads up that you are pedaling more fake news, you have to lose your fucking minds - because that's what you do



Oh if it were only just BeZos


Judge Nap: Trump Russian Intel Leak 'Most Potentially Catastrophic' Yet

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/15/trump-leaks-classified-information-russia-judge-napolitano-intelligence-mcmaster

Judge Andrew Napolitano said the report of classified information being openly revealed by President Trump to the Russians is the "most potentially catastrophic" yet.

Napolitano said that there were a "finite number" of people in the room when Trump met with Russian envoys last week.
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He said that one of those people is either directly or indirectly the person that anonymously leaked their recollections to the Washington Post on Monday.

National Security Adviser Gen. H.R. McMaster said in a brief press appearance that the Post's story is false.



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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:48:58 AM   
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It seems now the the President did in fact share information about ISIS with the Russians. This information was given the US by a third party country on condition that their involvement be kept confidential.

The President does have the legal ability to reveal sources as he sees fit.... but it was irresponsible on his part. How can we be expected to obtain critical information if we cannot be trusted to keep in confidential?

As a side note... someone high up in Trump's inner circle is leaking damaging information. He should stop blaming his intelligence services and start tapping the shoulders of his white house staff.

Butch


Again, that's information from a Clinton operative (Jeff Bezos) who claims he got his information from shady "anonymous sources" and the people who were there called a press conference to plainly and openly state that Jeff Bezos is pushing a flat out lie

It never happened

What did happen, is that the president openly met with the Russians, meaning he didn't hide that he was meeting with them, and he had a team with him

It was about sharing pertinent information that was necessary to save civilian lives on airlines. Muslims have apparently learned how to hide devastating bombs in notebook PCs in a way that is nearly impossible to detect. Sources and methods were not discussed, according to the people who were there, as stated in a public press conference

And the president has been open about cooperating with Russia in the fight against fundamentalist Muslims since the beginning, there is nothing new there either




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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:51:46 AM   
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I haven't read through the distasteful swamp of personal attacks in this thread so I may have missed this post.

You are all aware that a transcript of the meeting was distributed to all Intelligence Agencies; that transcript is the source of the report of Trump's misdeeds. His conversations are no big secret.

You may not like Bezos or Wapo of whoever, the point is official transcripts nailed the prez on this one. That's why his response on twitter this morning was so Nixonian: if the president does it it is not a crime, forgetting of course he has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. Stay tuned, kids.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:53:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It seems now the the President did in fact share information about ISIS with the Russians. This information was given the US by a third party country on condition that their involvement be kept confidential.

The President does have the legal ability to reveal sources as he sees fit.... but it was irresponsible on his part. How can we be expected to obtain critical information if we cannot be trusted to keep in confidential?

As a side note... someone high up in Trump's inner circle is leaking damaging information. He should stop blaming his intelligence services and start tapping the shoulders of his white house staff.

Butch


Again, that's information from a Clinton operative (Jeff Bezos) who claims he got his information from shady "anonymous sources" and the people who were there called a press conference to plainly and openly state that Jeff Bezos is pushing a flat out lie

It never happened

What did happen, is that the president openly met with the Russians, meaning he didn't hide that he was meeting with them, and he had a team with him

It was about sharing pertinent information that was necessary to save civilian lives on airlines. Muslims have apparently learned how to hide devastating bombs in notebook PCs in a way that is nearly impossible to detect. Sources and methods were not discussed, according to the people who were there, as stated in a public press conference

And the president has been open about cooperating with Russia in the fight against fundamentalist Muslims since the beginning, there is nothing new there either




Putin told trump to have the meeting, hows that for masterful


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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 8:55:20 AM   
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I haven't read through the distasteful swamp of personal attacks in this thread so I may have missed this post.

You are all aware that a transcript of the meeting was distributed to all Intelligence Agencies; that transcript is the source of the report of Trump's misdeeds. His conversations are no big secret.

You may not like Bebos or Wapo of whoever, the point is official transcripts nailed the prez on this one. That's why his response on twitter this morning was so Nixonian: if the president does it it is not a crime, forgetting of course he has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. Stay tuned, kids.

Have you found a link to the transcript yet Vincent? do you think it will make the headlines today or further down the road.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:02:38 AM   
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No no Vincent its a squealer

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I have been asking Director Comey & others, from the beginning of my administration, to find the LEAKERS in the intelligence community.....

As lucy pointed out earlier on - heh I was laughing at the snarky comments on his shitfeed- start with the man in the mirror hehehe

Heh boscox
pssst boscox

do you think he casts a reflection or is it more kind of a watery shit stench puddle?

Heh boscox
pssst boscox

who said this on the tele? Trump asks Russia to hack Hillary's emails




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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:04:00 AM   
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From Eric Erickson, at
http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/

I tend to take these stories about the President with a grain of salt. We have seen key details of a number of salacious stories retracted within 48 hours. The media hates the President so much that they’ll run a negative story about him without very much provocation. Anti-Trump sources embedded within the administration in the career civil service, etc. will leak to the press and confirmation bias sets in.

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want. But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?

This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is.



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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:06:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

~FR~~

I haven't read through the distasteful swamp of personal attacks in this thread so I may have missed this post.

You are all aware that a transcript of the meeting was distributed to all Intelligence Agencies; that transcript is the source of the report of Trump's misdeeds. His conversations are no big secret.

You may not like Bebos or Wapo of whoever, the point is official transcripts nailed the prez on this one. That's why his response on twitter this morning was so Nixonian: if the president does it it is not a crime, forgetting of course he has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. Stay tuned, kids.

Have you found a link to the transcript yet Vincent? do you think it will make the headlines today or further down the road.

Ah...since the tweets you posted actually mean nothing, despite your giddy make believe, you now await the transcript. We'll all wait and see. Well those of us not making shit up.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:08:44 AM   
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From Eric Erickson, at
http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/

I tend to take these stories about the President with a grain of salt. We have seen key details of a number of salacious stories retracted within 48 hours. The media hates the President so much that they’ll run a negative story about him without very much provocation. Anti-Trump sources embedded within the administration in the career civil service, etc. will leak to the press and confirmation bias sets in.

What sets this story apart for me, at least, is that I know one of the sources. And the source is solidly supportive of President Trump, or at least has been and was during Campaign 2016. But the President will not take any internal criticism, no matter how politely it is given. He does not want advice, cannot be corrected, and is too insecure to see any constructive feedback as anything other than an attack.

So some of the sources are left with no other option but to go to the media, leak the story, and hope that the intense blowback gives the President a swift kick in the butt. Perhaps then he will recognize he screwed up. The President cares vastly more about what the press says than what his advisers say. That is a real problem and one his advisers are having to recognize and use, even if it causes messy stories to get outside the White House perimeter.

I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported. The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want. But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?

This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is.



I can see this.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:12:45 AM   
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He didn't deny it - probably the smartest thing he has actually done since becoming the King of LyingFuk Presidents. He simply utilised as President it was his god giving fuking right to squeal like the piggery he is.

Oh wait he got someone to try and kinda deny it didn't he - then hurled him under a bus

And I said earlier this whole thing stinks to high heaven
This would be the meeting where all the USA etc press were banned save the Russian press. And those very dodgy Russian blokes were implicated in the collusion with the guy who lied about meeting them who went onto to write a letter recommending Comey get sacked because he wouldn’t pledge loyalty to the lying fuk of a clown in the office blabbing off official secrets Not that the lying orange contradicting corrupt clueless fukturd bean spiller needed the letter anyway as he had already made up his mind to sack Comey...but not according to Cinnamon pants on fire Spicer and withered olde knickerless hag lying fuk kellyann woof



I am now at the stage I am awe struck at just how much he is getting away with - whats next?

The silence from the Republicans in the senate pish swamp is perhaps more disgraceful - may start that thread let me think

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:28:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

~FR~~

I haven't read through the distasteful swamp of personal attacks in this thread so I may have missed this post.

You are all aware that a transcript of the meeting was distributed to all Intelligence Agencies; that transcript is the source of the report of Trump's misdeeds. His conversations are no big secret.

You may not like Bebos or Wapo of whoever, the point is official transcripts nailed the prez on this one. That's why his response on twitter this morning was so Nixonian: if the president does it it is not a crime, forgetting of course he has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. Stay tuned, kids.

Have you found a link to the transcript yet Vincent? do you think it will make the headlines today or further down the road.

Ah...since the tweets you posted actually mean nothing, despite your giddy make believe, you now await the transcript. We'll all wait and see. Well those of us not making shit up.



your ignorance of what is going on is obvious, its not me "making shit up"


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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:29:11 AM   
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Ah...since the tweets you posted actually mean nothing, despite your giddy make believe, you now await the transcript. We'll all wait and see. Well those of us not making shit up.

the president never said that The Post's report was untrue.

On the contrary, he tacitly confirmed its accuracy on Twitter on Tuesday morning, saying that he had “the absolute right” to share information with Russia.

your ignorance of what is going on is obvious, its not me "making shit up"




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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:29:38 AM   
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From 47 minutes ago ah see he utilised the "god clause"

US President Donald Trump has defended his "absolute right" to share information with Russia, following a row over classified material.
Mr Trump tweeted that he had shared "facts pertaining to terrorism and airline safety" and wanted Russia to do more against so-called Islamic State.
He met Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in the Oval Office last week.

US media said Mr Trump had shared material that was passed on by a partner which had not given permission.
A report in the Washington Post said Mr Trump had confided top secret information relating to an IS plot thought to centre on the use of laptop computers on aircraft.

Is Trump allowed to spill secrets?
Mr Trump's move is not illegal, as the US president has the authority to declassify information.

The action drew strong criticism from Democrats and a call for an explanation from his own Republican party.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39937258 and at least read the full article it reports fairly as does the video clip in it from the Washington Post (honest)

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:35:35 AM   
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Putin told trump to have the meeting, hows that for masterful



How's that for you live in an almost cartoonish alternate reality

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:38:16 AM   
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As john fuselgang said earlier.
Yes, Trump revealed highly classified info to the Russian foreign minister; but in fairness it wasn't via email & he doesn't have a vagina


You think the tweet said that

Hilarious

Here in reality, the tweet said exactly what I have been saying

Despite alt left snowflakes paranoid delusions, heads of state meet.

Period.

Nothing unusual. As president, Donald Trump has the right - even the obligation, to meet with the Russians. What was the meeting about? Saving civilian lives on airliners, and beating back Muslim fundamentalists

And so a known Democrat crony (Jeff Bezos) throws out a few lies to the alt left fake news dependant crowd (that would be you) and this humanitarian effort becomes some sinister conspiracy theory

Which never happened, according to the people who were actually there (and despite Jeff Bezos' literally shady anonymous sources)

Despite being given the heads up that you are pedaling more fake news, you have to lose your fucking minds - because that's what you do



Oh if it were only just BeZos


Judge Nap: Trump Russian Intel Leak 'Most Potentially Catastrophic' Yet

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/15/trump-leaks-classified-information-russia-judge-napolitano-intelligence-mcmaster

Judge Andrew Napolitano said the report of classified information being openly revealed by President Trump to the Russians is the "most potentially catastrophic" yet.

Napolitano said that there were a "finite number" of people in the room when Trump met with Russian envoys last week.
with video
He said that one of those people is either directly or indirectly the person that anonymously leaked their recollections to the Washington Post on Monday.

National Security Adviser Gen. H.R. McMaster said in a brief press appearance that the Post's story is false.




Napolitano's opinion, and every other "news" story repeating the lie, is based on the WaPo fake news

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:38:56 AM   
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I haven't read through the distasteful swamp of personal attacks in this thread so I may have missed this post.

You are all aware that a transcript of the meeting was distributed to all Intelligence Agencies; that transcript is the source of the report of Trump's misdeeds. His conversations are no big secret.

You may not like Bebos or Wapo of whoever, the point is official transcripts nailed the prez on this one. That's why his response on twitter this morning was so Nixonian: if the president does it it is not a crime, forgetting of course he has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution. Stay tuned, kids.

Have you found a link to the transcript yet Vincent? do you think it will make the headlines today or further down the road.

Ah...since the tweets you posted actually mean nothing, despite your giddy make believe, you now await the transcript. We'll all wait and see. Well those of us not making shit up.



your ignorance of what is going on is obvious, its not me "making shit up"


Good, I've asked you before, now I'll ask you again, show where in the tweets it says what you say the tweets mean. Show you're not making shit up. It's simple.

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 9:39:26 AM   
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lester holt interview...he said I spoke to Putin and he asked me to have a meeting with Labarov.
you arent the only one who is allowed to spin.
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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 10:30:28 AM   
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lester holt interview...he said I spoke to Putin and he asked me to have a meeting with Labarov.
you arent the only one who is allowed to spin.
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The shock

The horror

A sure sign of the apocalypse

A president met with Putin

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Heads of state meeting, has never happened before

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RE: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information to Rus... - 5/16/2017 10:58:22 AM   
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lester holt interview...he said I spoke to Putin and he asked me to have a meeting with Labarov.
you arent the only one who is allowed to spin.
twirl sugarshortsean


The shock

The horror

A sure sign of the apocalypse

A president met with Putin



Heads of state meeting, has never happened before




give the gurgling a rest because I have never suggested its a first for anyone,
Thats you spinning from your alt fact taint licking reality

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