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Training Collar - 7/26/2006 7:21:31 PM

Hotprofessor

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HI Everyone:

I posted earlier in "Ask a Master" about "asking for a collar - right or wrong?" I received great advise from many wonderful and interesting people. Now, I am back because I have been given a "training collar" - and am wondering what your feelings, experiences have been when given a training collar or did you go right into a "real" collar? My emotions are like a roller coaster ride right now and would appreciate ay help, thoughts that you would be willing to share,..all of this is certainly new to me...and I am enjoying it and yet are somewhat apprehensive.,''\

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RE: Training Collar - 7/26/2006 9:26:39 PM

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I think training collars are USUALLY used today as a way to create rituals to make people feel special about the next step they take in their relationship but really have no bearing on the actual dynamics going on within the relationship.

Like anything, a collar can mean whatever the heck you want it to mean, just make sure everyone understands before making the commitment.

I personally think that unless you are taking someone on SOLELY to train them, it's a fairly pointless thing. If you want a romantic relationship with someone, just have it.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_124898/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#124898
Wearing training collar in public

http://www.collarchat.com/m_81449/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#81449
What are the collar types/levels please?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_70392/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#70392
Collars and collaring

http://www.collarchat.com/m_59686/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#59686
Color of collars?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_428/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#428
What is your definition of a training collar?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_402/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#402
Multiple collars or single collar?

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RE: Training Collar - 7/26/2006 10:07:23 PM

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i have never had a training collar. i went right into a "real collar," both times. i would not want to submit to someone just under training consideration or anything like that; i usually tie bdsm and collaring in with a relationship, and i do realize that most people don't necessarily have to be in a romantic relationship or married to their other bdsm halves ;) but i couldn't imagine being in a training collar in the type of relationship i would have to be in to even think about collaring in the first place...however, for a lot of people with different (and even the same) relationship dynamics, it's an awesome thing :) and as la said, collars can pretty much mean what you want them to mean, as well.

edited to add: i think my original post was a little unclear. what i'm trying to say, i guess, is for me it's hard to separate a romantic relationship from bdsm, or the other way around. both of my serious relationships (and collared relationships) started out "vanilla," then the bdsm element of the relationship became a sort of acknowledged thing that was developed and i received a collar. there wasn't really any question of whether or not things would progress, so the training collar thing wasn't really ever brought up. to me it seems like a training collar would fit more in a relationship that starts out as a strictly bdsm-based relationship and then may or may not progress to having certain romantic aspects. not sure if i'm making any sense still but i think that fleshes out my standpoint a bit more, hehe.

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RE: Training Collar - 7/26/2006 10:13:14 PM

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Personally, I don't believe in them.

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RE: Training Collar - 7/26/2006 10:46:00 PM

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We have given one, and it was a very positive experience. She was our first slave and only slave so far. There was already interest on everyone's part, but everyone knew from the get-go that she was unable to commit completely due to some family isuues, so it was the next best thing. She was fairly new to things, so we "showed her the ropes" and gained an awesome experience in seeing some of the in's and out's of owning a slave. It became apparent that she needed someone 24/7, and it couldn't be arranged, so we dissolved the contract. Everyone benefitted, and we're still great friends with her to this day. If you're into it, I think it can be a great practice. All that matters is what it means to you.

Best of luck,
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RE: Training Collar - 7/26/2006 11:00:16 PM

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He has never discussed a training collar for me, we see collaring as having only a couple of functions, one it is a fetish/play item to control a submissive for scening. The other use is a full collar between a submissive and her dominant. He sees this as a commitment akin to marriage now that he has been involved in the lifestyle for awhile. He did not view it this way when he first started domming, but he did not understand the deep significance as a newbie. It is a serious step for us.

Not all view collars this way, some use graduated steps in the collaring process, such as training or consideration. I am not sure how he views the consideration collar as we haven't talked much about that. My opinion doesn't matter much as I cannot offer myself a collar anyways, that is his business to do, not mine. I do not decide when that time comes.

You have to decide what is right for you and your submissive in the long run, and everyone has their own significance attached to this subject.

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RE: Training Collar - 7/27/2006 1:09:43 AM

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I was under training and consideration before I was owned, and I was owned for months before I was collared. The only collar I have worn, is the one I still wear today - the collar which signifies his full and complete ownership of me.

However, I understand some are given training collars to wear, as a way of teaching the slave what it would be like to be owned - to begin the mindset of living as an owned servant. Some are given training collars to help them feel a sense of belonging. Even if not owned, they are still reminded of their place in training, under the direction of Another.

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RE: Training Collar - 7/27/2006 5:09:33 AM

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Ownedgilie

Thank you very muh for the information and I believe that is what my DOM has in mind for me ...providing me with the tools and time to become the best submissive he has had or known. I look forward to this time of transition from the "vanilla' world of relationships that I have known to this lifestyle of submission and control.

I have read so many of the informative posts in this newsgroup and am learning thru all of your well expressed thoughts as to what I can expect and to look forward to as this relationship grows and changes.

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RE: Training Collar - 7/27/2006 7:14:52 AM

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You are welcome. You will find that for every opinion here there is an opposing one. :)

Best of luck to you in your relationship!

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RE: Training Collar - 7/27/2006 2:49:03 PM

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In Norway, we have somthing we call an alliance ring, it is a bautiful usualy gold band where one set in dimonds as the relationship advance. It is a way to say we are serious aboute our relationship, but we are not eganged yet, it is just what it is named a symbol on an alliance. A training collar can be just that, meaning the raltionship is getting serious but is not quite there yet, but it is a positive thing.

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