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BoscoX -> DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 6:56:48 PM)

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Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret documents that chronicle some of the most serious constitutional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.

More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.

The normally supportive court excoriated administration officials, saying the failure to disclose the extent of the violations earlier amounted to a “institutional lack of candor” and that the improper searches constituted a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue,” according to a recently unsealed court document dated April 26, 2017.

The admitted violations undercut one of the primary defenses that the intelligence community and Obama officials have used in recent weeks to justify their snooping into incidental NSA intercepts about Americans.

Circa has reported that there was a three-fold increase in NSA data searches about Americans and a rise in the unmasking of U.S. person’s identities in intelligence reports after Obama loosened the privacy rules in 2011.

Officials like former National Security Adviser Susan Rice have argued their activities were legals under the so-called minimization rule changes Obama made and that the intelligence agencies were strictly monitored to avoid abuses.

The intelligence court and the NSA’s own internal watchdog found that not to be true...

Full article here


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MasterJaguar01 -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 7:15:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

The National Security Agency under former President Barack Obama routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall, according to once top-secret documents that chronicle some of the most serious constitutional abuses to date by the U.S. intelligence community.

More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.

The normally supportive court excoriated administration officials, saying the failure to disclose the extent of the violations earlier amounted to a “institutional lack of candor” and that the improper searches constituted a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue,” according to a recently unsealed court document dated April 26, 2017.

The admitted violations undercut one of the primary defenses that the intelligence community and Obama officials have used in recent weeks to justify their snooping into incidental NSA intercepts about Americans.

Circa has reported that there was a three-fold increase in NSA data searches about Americans and a rise in the unmasking of U.S. person’s identities in intelligence reports after Obama loosened the privacy rules in 2011.

Officials like former National Security Adviser Susan Rice have argued their activities were legals under the so-called minimization rule changes Obama made and that the intelligence agencies were strictly monitored to avoid abuses.

The intelligence court and the NSA’s own internal watchdog found that not to be true...

Full article here




The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?




vincentML -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 7:23:20 PM)

Nothing new here. The dogs howl but the caravan moves on.


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BoscoX -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 7:30:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?


Nothing to see here, because it's Obama?

Gather around boys and girls. Who wants to hear a true story?

Once upon a time, a long long time ago in a land not so far away, "liberals" used to care about things like presidents spying on American citizens...

Or did they really?




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 7:35:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?


Nothing to see here, because it's Obama?

Gather around boys and girls. Who wants to hear a true story?

Once upon a time, a long long time ago in a land not so far away, "liberals" used to care about things like presidents spying on American citizens...

Or did they really?



I have ZERO interest in what liberals care or don't care about. The NSA was abusing its authority given to it by the FISA court, and ADMITTED it.

Good for them!




BoscoX -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 7:46:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?


Nothing to see here, because it's Obama?

Gather around boys and girls. Who wants to hear a true story?

Once upon a time, a long long time ago in a land not so far away, "liberals" used to care about things like presidents spying on American citizens...

Or did they really?



I have ZERO interest in what liberals care or don't care about. The NSA was abusing its authority given to it by the FISA court, and ADMITTED it.

Good for them!


At the very end of the Obama administration, after doing it for years

And you give them a pat on the head




Lucylastic -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 8:03:41 PM)

FR
124 days in...and Trump is lawyering up.
And his budget batters poor people
YAYYYYYYYYYYYY so much winning.[8|]




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 8:43:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?


Nothing to see here, because it's Obama?

Gather around boys and girls. Who wants to hear a true story?

Once upon a time, a long long time ago in a land not so far away, "liberals" used to care about things like presidents spying on American citizens...

Or did they really?



I have ZERO interest in what liberals care or don't care about. The NSA was abusing its authority given to it by the FISA court, and ADMITTED it.

Good for them!


At the very end of the Obama administration, after doing it for years

And you give them a pat on the head



(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush) I am happy they admitted it under Obama.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/16/politics/bush-lets-us-spy-on-callers-without-courts.html?_r=0




Termyn8or -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/23/2017 9:50:31 PM)

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(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush)


As long as you remember that part of Obama's platform was to put a stop to it back in 2008. Of course people can't remember that far back.

T^T




BoscoX -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/24/2017 4:04:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush)


As long as you remember that part of Obama's platform was to put a stop to it back in 2008. Of course people can't remember that far back.

T^T


They were insane about it, whipped up into a mob mentality

And Obama was going to be their savior from "Bushitler" and "Darth Cheney"

Just like they are doing with the Russia lie now




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/24/2017 5:18:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush)


As long as you remember that part of Obama's platform was to put a stop to it back in 2008. Of course people can't remember that far back.

T^T


Obama failed to put a stop to it.

Obviously.



Two points:

1) The title of this thread (plagiarized from my own words on another thread) is completely inapplicable here. The NSA overstepped its authority for years and admitted it. The faucet has been completely shut off for almost a year now.

2) It was Bush's ironically named "Patriot Act" that emboldened these spy agencies in the first place, and created the very programs that were abused in both the Bush and Obama administrations.




mnottertail -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/24/2017 5:21:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26

So?


Nothing to see here, because it's Obama?

Gather around boys and girls. Who wants to hear a true story?

Once upon a time, a long long time ago in a land not so far away, "liberals" used to care about things like presidents spying on American citizens...

Or did they really?

But the nutsuckers in congress backed W and the nutsuckers gave us the freedom to be spied on.




mnottertail -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/24/2017 5:23:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

quote:

(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush)


As long as you remember that part of Obama's platform was to put a stop to it back in 2008. Of course people can't remember that far back.

T^T


They were insane about it, whipped up into a mob mentality

And Obama was going to be their savior from "Bushitler" and "Darth Cheney"

Just like they are doing with the Russia lie now


Just like Il Douchovitch was going to be the savior and drain the swamp, and of course he is just selling us out to Russia and Radical Islamic extremists.




Lucylastic -> RE: DRIP DRIP DRIP (5/24/2017 5:57:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

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(As long as you realize it STARTED under Bush)


As long as you remember that part of Obama's platform was to put a stop to it back in 2008. Of course people can't remember that far back.

T^T

Platform, before he became president, who found like trump did, that the NSA and intel is bigger than his "promises".
Nobody was surprised that he couldnt do it. Yes I remember, in fact the search here is quite indepth. so stop with the revisionist history, its fallacious and easily debunked and factual, unlike YOUR reminiscing.




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