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Greta75 -> Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 6:50:17 AM)

I can't stand how the Lib Media are making a hoo ha about Melania and Ivanka donning Headscarfs at the Vatican and refusing to wear it in Saudi.

First of all, Michelle Obama did precisely the same.

Second of all, I believe all 3 ladies are Christians, so why shouldn't they want to do something of their own religious culture?

Third of all, the Vatican doesn't force women to wear head scarfs at all times 24/7 like Saudi does.

They only ask if you wanna visit a certain place, you wear it. But if you don't wanna wear it, don't visit it, period!

Not a whole country where you MUST wear headscarf.

Now if it's dress code just for a mosque, I understand.

So if I don't want to wear head scarf, I just make sure I never ever visit a Mosque. That's dresscode for like, some restaurants doesn't allow jeans, so if I wanna wear jean, I don't go there.

It's like apple and oranges.




Lucylastic -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:07:28 AM)

you are making the mountain out of a molehill...
I only wondered if the reason she wore the mantilla was because she was catholic?.
That would make perfect sense to me.
She is abiding by her belief system.
I didnt even bother to look at the story in any detail, so I dont know if it was mentioned as a reason, I really DONT care enough to "need" to know, I was more interested in the popes feelings about the meeting, that was quite telling.
But really, anyone thats bothered about hats and scarves, is as silly as me enjoying the hand slaps... a fun distraction of nothing burgers

While trying to make sense of what is REALLY going on, with things like North Korea, the budget, the healthcare bill, terrorism, crime. plus a thousand more important other things...

SO far, the trip has been interesting, not disastrous as an *event*, I give them that.




Aylee -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:19:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you are making the mountain out of a molehill...
I only wondered if the reason she wore the mantilla was because she was catholic?.
That would make perfect sense to me.
She is abiding by her belief system.
I didnt even bother to look at the story in any detail, so I dont know if it was mentioned as a reason, I really DONT care enough to "need" to know, I was more interested in the popes feelings about the meeting, that was quite telling.
But really, anyone thats bothered about hats and scarves, is as silly as me enjoying the hand slaps... a fun distraction of nothing burgers

While trying to make sense of what is REALLY going on, with things like North Korea, the budget, the healthcare bill, terrorism, crime. plus a thousand more important other things...

SO far, the trip has been interesting, not disastrous as an *event*, I give them that.



According to Wiki, she is Catholic. The black dress and veil is part of protocol for personal meetings with the pope. Some that are considered "royals" are allowed to wear white. The current pope has relaxed the dress code stuff.




Lucylastic -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:32:49 AM)

Catholicism has lots of protocols, so as it is her personal faith it would not be abnormal for her. If you get to meet the leader of your faith in person, I would think it would be an honour to abide by their rules.
Yes I read the protocol for meeting with the pope. I just hadnt known her religion beforehand.

:)




WickedsDesire -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:41:06 AM)

Well Trump wore his Jew hat to touch the wall - is that a thing?

Mad Maggie Thatcher - wore one.
May and Merkel did not
Neither did Trump's wife Ivanka or his daughter Melanie.

Look they should have worn it once upon arrival or at their first official state appearance.

Oh and that "protocol" what a load of archaic rubbish




WhoreMods -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:44:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee
According to Wiki, she is Catholic...

Melania might be Catholic, but Ivanka's Jewish. She converted before marrying Kushner, did she not?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 7:47:00 AM)

yes so Trumps wife Ivanka is Jewish? whats worrying is no-one caught that the first time because its almost believable.

I could rant about catholic, hypocrisy, papal seals abuse - but a solar flare appears to have leathered Scotland today and its a bit boiling.

Or I would rant about the hypocrisy of the one they call Comrade Trump and his on the record statements regarding handsome Obama bowing, and Beautiful Michelle not wearing a headscarf

Did you enjoy Trumps hypocrisy Greta75 because that is all he is a hypocritical lying orange fuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpGsx2m75A




WhoreMods -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 8:32:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

yes so Trumps wife Ivanka is Jewish? whats worrying is no-one caught that the first time because its almost believable.

I could rant about catholic, hypocrisy, papal seals abuse - but a solar flare appears to have leathered Scotland today and its a bit boiling.

Or I would rant about the hypocrisy of the one they call Comrade Trump and his on the record statements regarding handsome Obama bowing, and Beautiful Michelle not wearing a headscarf

Did you enjoy Trumps hypocrisy Greta75 because that is all he is a hypocritical lying orange fuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpGsx2m75A


I've yet to get an answer from the anti-zionist wing in here as to how el presidente is less of a zionist than Clinton, given that his companies are full of jews, both of his daughters have married jews, and one of them has converted to judaism and taken a jewish name for religious purposes (and he kept bloody quiet about that while he was inviting the white supremacists to stuff money down his g-string while he was bumping and grinding on the campaign trail, didn't he?)




WickedsDesire -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 9:00:56 AM)

Yes.
And they lapped it up from his bottom parts and ive seen some of them on the tele and they pretty much all still refute reality defending the crack whore stripper


I think there is something in this Zionist thingy - His company and family are filling their company coffers to an extent never witnessed before. And they are doing it openly.




WhoreMods -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 10:17:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Yes.
And they lapped it up from his bottom parts and ive seen some of them on the tele and they pretty much all still refute reality defending the crack whore stripper


I think there is something in this Zionist thingy - His company and family are filling their company coffers to an extent never witnessed before. And they are doing it openly.

If there is something in the zionist theory, why are our resident sworn opponents of the ZOG and Isral's unspeakable evil both in favour of the zionist's orange bitch running their country?




MrRodgers -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 10:20:42 AM)

Just more confirmation of how religion poisons everything.




dcnovice -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 11:08:45 AM)

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According to Wiki, she is Catholic. The black dress and veil is part of protocol for personal meetings with the pope. Some that are considered "royals" are allowed to wear white. The current pope has relaxed the dress code stuff.

This.

TRADITIONAL BLACK

Elizabeth II and John Paul II
[image]http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/GTY_queen_elizabeth_pope_1_sk_140403_11x7_1600.jpg[/image]

Prince Rainier and Princess Grace with John XXIII
[image]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f6/ed/ae/f6edae600a19756e3e2b592b4b3a368c.jpg[/image]

Harry and Bess Truman with Pius XII
[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPnU2D4VAAAv2ma.jpg[/image]


PRIVILEGE DU BLANC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privil%C3%A8ge_du_blanc

Queen Sofia (Spain) and Queen Paola (Belgium) with Pope Francis
[image]http://us.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/2014042718437/pope-francis-canonisation-spanish-royals/0-96-384/king1--a.jpg[/image]

Queen Elena (Italy) awaits a meeting with Pius XII
[image]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Regina_papa_bianco.jpg[/image]




WickedsDesire -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 12:48:07 PM)

twere to line their pockets with filthy A'rab the Arabs gold from the savage lands of sand dwellers. A double ruse if you like - perhaps he stopped off to give them their Jew cut - mind you the orange dud probably already spent that on a round of golf, couple 13 year olde kiddies, a bed wetting Russian crack whore from his bud "putinjizz", and lawyered up for his coming pubic Crucifixion and flaying. Now I dont know about you but I would the flaying to come from rate crocadiles called hillary, by a curious quirk of happenstance.

So his jew brat in law and his wife Mealine, never to be confused with Trumps wife Ivanka - easy mistake to make that, just trousered $100-350 billion ( and the rest) and Exxons cut is 1 trillion

Something is afoot




kdsub -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 2:21:06 PM)

I would think following... or at least respecting... traditions when being welcomed to a foreign land is simply good manners. Covering ones head to accommodate the sensibilities of the people's beliefs is not denigrating to the US but being polite and respectful. It should make no difference if it is Saudi Arabia or the Vatican. The religion of Trump or his wife should not even be considered as he is representing a nation of many religions... Just be polite!

Butch




Greta75 -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 8:37:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Or I would rant about the hypocrisy of the one they call Comrade Trump and his on the record statements regarding handsome Obama bowing, and Beautiful Michelle not wearing a headscarf

Did you enjoy Trumps hypocrisy Greta75 because that is all he is a hypocritical lying orange fuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpGsx2m75A


Yea, I disagree with Trump about giving shit to Michelle Obama about not wearing headscarf. And I will not support any necessity for head scarf especially when it's implemented nationwide in a whole country. Dress code for private religious venues, that I have no issues with.

But the point is Liberal media are giving shit to Melania and Ivanka for the double standards of not wearing head scarfs in saudi but choosing to do so in the vatican.

And basically, i am wondering what is the liberal media stances of head scarfs in saudi precisely? I would think they would be pro-not wearing any head scarfs ever in saudi!

Are they also against head scarfs, the dress code as demanded by the pope?





Greta75 -> RE: Refusing Headscarfs in Saudi and Wearing them at the Vatican (5/25/2017 8:40:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Melania might be Catholic, but Ivanka's Jewish. She converted before marrying Kushner, did she not?

I don't consider Ivanka Jewish.

If she refuse to convert to Judaism. She will be unable to marry her husband. Stupid religious laws.

So she was essentially forced against her will to become a jew so she can be with the man she loves.

Doesn't mean she is a jew at heart. And genuinely wanted to be one. She did it so that she could marry the man she loves. That's all. It's just going through the stupid motions.

It's the same with Islam. If I wanted to marry a Muslim man, I would have to turn Muslim or he will be forbidden to marry me. Just like poor Janet Jackson had to turn Muslim and then forced to walk around in Ninja suit just because she wanted to marry the man she loved.

This whole "forced conversion" through marriage is another area where this whole world needs to banned religions from doing. Like make it illegal already for religions to prevent marriages using compulsory conversion as the penalty of that marriage!




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