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Musicmystery -> Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 5:48:49 AM)

DHARAMSHALA: US President Donald Trump has left Tibetans in a shock after proposing zero aid to Tibet in 2018 at a juncture where efforts were underway to arrange a meeting of Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama and the US President, on Friday.

Media reports published from Washington stated that United States has reversed the decade-old policy to give financial aid to Tibetans. It was said that the State department, which has sent a detailed proposal to the Congress as part of the annual budget referred to the decision as one of the tough choices, as its total budget itself was slashed by 28%.

Though only a proposal, the announcement has worried the Tibetan community. "Trump seems to be making series of unpopular decision that may be of immediate benefits but with no future. Even his Congress and people are protesting against it," said Tenzin Tsundue, a Tibetan writer and poet.

A Tibetan social entrepreneur in exile, Lobsang Wangyal said Trump could be expecting a thaw in US-China relations by cutting funding to exiled Tibetans, but to slash funds for an anguished community is robbing them of the hopes they have in their lives as well as the trust they place in the United States and the western world. "The move is contrary to American ideals of freedom, equality, and justice. Time will tell if Trump's policy is really in line with his 'Make America Great Again'," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/shimla/trump-decides-to-stop-aiding-tibet-reverses-decade-old-policy/articleshow/58864516.cms




BoscoX -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 6:56:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

DHARAMSHALA: US President Donald Trump has left Tibetans in a shock after proposing zero aid to Tibet in 2018 at a juncture where efforts were underway to arrange a meeting of Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama and the US President, on Friday.

Media reports published from Washington stated that United States has reversed the decade-old policy to give financial aid to Tibetans. It was said that the State department, which has sent a detailed proposal to the Congress as part of the annual budget referred to the decision as one of the tough choices, as its total budget itself was slashed by 28%.

Though only a proposal, the announcement has worried the Tibetan community. "Trump seems to be making series of unpopular decision that may be of immediate benefits but with no future. Even his Congress and people are protesting against it," said Tenzin Tsundue, a Tibetan writer and poet.

A Tibetan social entrepreneur in exile, Lobsang Wangyal said Trump could be expecting a thaw in US-China relations by cutting funding to exiled Tibetans, but to slash funds for an anguished community is robbing them of the hopes they have in their lives as well as the trust they place in the United States and the western world. "The move is contrary to American ideals of freedom, equality, and justice. Time will tell if Trump's policy is really in line with his 'Make America Great Again'," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/shimla/trump-decides-to-stop-aiding-tibet-reverses-decade-old-policy/articleshow/58864516.cms


Who in Washington gets what kickbacks from sending our treasure to "exiled Tibetans" for "decades"

How much is the national debt again? And what is going to happen to that debt when interest rates go up again

Maybe we should elect "liberals" to send MORE of our treasure to foreigners

I can't believe that mean ol' Donald trump has the balls to put American interests first

And drain the swamp





Musicmystery -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 7:15:14 AM)

We have become a land without values.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 7:22:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

We have become a land without values.


"Values"

Pay lip service to the national debt when it suits your narrow and extreme ideological politics. All other times, there is no limit to how much debt we should take on

"Values"




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 7:27:49 AM)

Thanks for proving my point.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 7:32:18 AM)


Drain the swamp. We have enough debt.

You are welcome. [;)]




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 9:30:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Drain the swamp. We have enough debt.

You are welcome. [;)]

Making it easier for el presidente to pursue lucrative conflicts of interest in China will drain the swamp how?




mnottertail -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 9:33:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Drain the swamp. We have enough debt.

You are welcome. [;)]

You will have to get nutsuckers out to drain the swamp, they dont care about debt, they are increasing it by the trillion, and Il Douchovitch sure dont care about it, long as they are getting him to mar lago every weekend and spending millions on guarding trump tower too.

Drain the swamp, get rid of the nutsuckers.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 9:35:06 AM)

They have to finance those tax breaks for Rich folks somehow.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 9:39:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

They have to finance those tax breaks for Rich folks somehow.


The horror

Allowing a free people to keep their own money

What next, stopping slave-trading Muslim hordes?

Oh, the humanity




mnottertail -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:23:23 AM)

Nutsuckers didnt let free people keep their own money, they presided over some of the largest transfers of wealth in our nations history, robbing the middle class blind to give to their corporate masters.

Your hallucinatory cartoon fantasy world of fake news is moronic, nutsucker.




tamaka -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:39:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

DHARAMSHALA: US President Donald Trump has left Tibetans in a shock after proposing zero aid to Tibet in 2018 at a juncture where efforts were underway to arrange a meeting of Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama and the US President, on Friday.

Media reports published from Washington stated that United States has reversed the decade-old policy to give financial aid to Tibetans. It was said that the State department, which has sent a detailed proposal to the Congress as part of the annual budget referred to the decision as one of the tough choices, as its total budget itself was slashed by 28%.

Though only a proposal, the announcement has worried the Tibetan community. "Trump seems to be making series of unpopular decision that may be of immediate benefits but with no future. Even his Congress and people are protesting against it," said Tenzin Tsundue, a Tibetan writer and poet.

A Tibetan social entrepreneur in exile, Lobsang Wangyal said Trump could be expecting a thaw in US-China relations by cutting funding to exiled Tibetans, but to slash funds for an anguished community is robbing them of the hopes they have in their lives as well as the trust they place in the United States and the western world. "The move is contrary to American ideals of freedom, equality, and justice. Time will tell if Trump's policy is really in line with his 'Make America Great Again'," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/shimla/trump-decides-to-stop-aiding-tibet-reverses-decade-old-policy/articleshow/58864516.cms


Omg... why the fuck were we sending them money in the first place?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:44:35 AM)

Tibet women's football team 'denied US visas'

A Tibetan women's football team has claimed that they have been denied United States visas to take part in a tournament in Texas.
They say they were told they had "no good reason" to visit the US.

Most of the players are Tibetan refugees living in India, and had applied at the US embassy in Delhi.

US President Donald Trump has imposed a travel ban (now frozen) on nationals from seven countries, but neither India or China is on the list.
Tibet, a remote and mainly-Buddhist territory known as the "roof of the world", is governed as an autonomous region of China.

Cassie Childers, the executive director of Tibet Women's Soccer and a US citizen, told the BBC that she had accompanied the group of 16 players for interviews at the embassy on 24 February.





WhoreMods -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:55:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

DHARAMSHALA: US President Donald Trump has left Tibetans in a shock after proposing zero aid to Tibet in 2018 at a juncture where efforts were underway to arrange a meeting of Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama and the US President, on Friday.

Media reports published from Washington stated that United States has reversed the decade-old policy to give financial aid to Tibetans. It was said that the State department, which has sent a detailed proposal to the Congress as part of the annual budget referred to the decision as one of the tough choices, as its total budget itself was slashed by 28%.

Though only a proposal, the announcement has worried the Tibetan community. "Trump seems to be making series of unpopular decision that may be of immediate benefits but with no future. Even his Congress and people are protesting against it," said Tenzin Tsundue, a Tibetan writer and poet.

A Tibetan social entrepreneur in exile, Lobsang Wangyal said Trump could be expecting a thaw in US-China relations by cutting funding to exiled Tibetans, but to slash funds for an anguished community is robbing them of the hopes they have in their lives as well as the trust they place in the United States and the western world. "The move is contrary to American ideals of freedom, equality, and justice. Time will tell if Trump's policy is really in line with his 'Make America Great Again'," he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/shimla/trump-decides-to-stop-aiding-tibet-reverses-decade-old-policy/articleshow/58864516.cms


Omg... why the fuck were we sending them money in the first place?


It's like twenty quid a month or something: pulling the plug on that won't really erase the deficit.
It's weird how people are cool with pissing away hundreds of millions annually on "military" spending that mostly feathers middle managers' nests rather than producing anything the military might find useful get all bent out of shape over foreign aid payments that are the government equivalent of dumping your lose change in the pot by the till in a charity shop, isn't it?




MercTech -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 4:18:25 PM)

On the specific issue; I've always objected to providing humanitarian charity out of public coffers.

I don't think it is the business of a government whose mandate is to protect the population from enemies foreign and domestic to be in the business of providing charity to other countries while we have homeless and starving within our own borders.

Do I think the Tibetans deserve some aid; hell yes. But I don't think that is the business of our federal government to provide that aid.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 4:26:35 PM)

Fact is, many people don't want to help the homeless and starving within our borders either.

We helped Tibet because China invaded and disposed the Dalai Lama.

Now, though, the United States of Trump Enterprises is looking for good business deals for the Trumps in China.

By contrast, here's where Congress stood in 2014 (and that's immediately after the 2013 government shutdown):


Congress funds again Tibet programs in 2014 spending bill


International Campaign for Tibet on January 15, 2014

The U.S. Congress continued its steady support for Tibet through the provision of approximately $19 million for Tibet programs through the Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2014. The House of Representatives is expected to vote on the bill on January 15, and the Senate soon thereafter.

“The United States Congress has once again given strong support to the cause of Tibet,” said Todd Stein, Director of Government Relations at the International Campaign for Tibet. “While these programs are but a minuscule part of the overall foreign aid budget, this investment yields big dividends for Tibetans and their efforts to preserve their culture and identity.”

The Consolidated Appropriations bill, together with the recommendations of the relevant House and Senate Committees and the President’s Budget, would provide in 2014:

- grants to non-governmental organizations to support sustainable development and cultural traditions on the Tibetan plateau (increased to $7.9 million);
- humanitarian assistance for Tibetan refugees (grants traditionally set at $2.5 million);
- the Tibetan Scholarship and Ngwang Choephel fellows programs (more than $1 million);
- funding for the office of the Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues at the State Department ($1 million); and
level funding for independent broadcasting into Tibet by Radio Free Asia and Voice of America; and
democracy grants through the National Endowment for Democracy.

The $1 million for the Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues is Congress’ first specific dollar recommendation for this office in several years. It comes at a time when the position has been vacant for a year, although the office has remained staffed and active. The President has nominated Sarah Sewall to be Under Secretary of State for Civilian Security, Democracy and Human Rights, and she is likely to be given the Tibet portfolio if confirmed.

Since 1988, starting with the creation of the Tibetan Scholarship Program, Congress has initiated and funded at least nine U.S. government programs that benefit Tibetan in exile and inside Tibet through humanitarian assistance, economic development, educational assistance, and other efforts. These programs are annually a part of the State-Foreign Operations Appropriations bill, which has been incorporated into the larger omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act.

Since its establishment in 1988, ICT has advocated to Congress to support the Tibetans’ efforts to preserve their culture, identity and traditions threatened by the oppressive policies of the Chinese government.

https://www.savetibet.org/congress-funds-again-tibet-programs-in-2014-spending-bill/




Greta75 -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 9:11:36 PM)

Tibet needs to figure out how to be independent and not rely on the US.

How is the US responsible for Tibet's welfare?

Why not Canada or Germany help? Or UK? Why is US responsible for taking care of everything that goes on in the world?

Gosh, US is like the big Nanny of the world! Except, now they can't afford to be. They are drowning in debt themselves.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:02:28 PM)

Germanistan told MM it wants to go it alone, whispered it in his ear I guess..

Let them carry Tibet, and everyone else in the world

We are trillions in debt, maybe they need to carry us too





mnottertail -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:04:14 PM)

we will always be in debt with the fiscally irresponsible nutsuckers donw there in congress. Its what they do, sell us out to Russia.




igor2003 -> RE: Trump stops aid to Tibet, reverses decades old policy (5/30/2017 10:23:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Tibet needs to figure out how to be independent and not rely on the US.

How is the US responsible for Tibet's welfare?

Why not Canada or Germany help? Or UK? Why is US responsible for taking care of everything that goes on in the world?

Gosh, US is like the big Nanny of the world! Except, now they can't afford to be. They are drowning in debt themselves.

What makes you think other countries don't contribute to foreign aid? The U.S. does give more, but they are certainly not alone.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-doners-of-foreigner-aid-map.html




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