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tamaka -> More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:04:45 PM)
Merkel, minister stress U.S. ties after critical Trump tweet Reuters • By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski • 3 hours ago By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski BERLIN (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump called Germany's trade and spending policies "very bad" on Tuesday, intensifying a row between the longtime allies and immediately earning himself the moniker "destroyer of Western values" from a leading German politician. As the war of words threatened to spin out of control, Merkel and other senior German politicians stressed the importance of Germany's Atlantic ties, with Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel suggesting the spat was just a rough patch. Trump took to Twitter early in the day in the United States to attack Germany, a day after Chancellor Angela Merkel ramped up her doubts about the reliability of Washington as an ally. "We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change," Trump tweeted. The tit-for-tat dispute escalated rapidly after Trump, at back-to-back summits last week, criticized major NATO allies over their military spending and refused to endorse a global climate change accord. On Sunday, Merkel showed the gravity of her concern about Washington's dependability under Trump when she warned, at an election campaign event in a packed Bavarian beer tent - that the times when Europe could fully rely on others were "over to a certain extent". Those comments, which caused shock in Washington, vented Europe's frustration with Trump on climate policy in particular. And while German politicians sided with Merkel, Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel signaled that it was time for cooler heads to prevail. TIT-FOR-TAT, FROM TENT TO TWITTER "The United States are older and bigger than the current conflict," he said, adding that relations would improve. "It is inappropriate that we are now communicating with each other between a beer tent and Twitter," he said in Berlin. Merkel had already begun finessing her message on Monday, stressing that she was a "convinced trans-Atlanticist", a message she repeated after a meeting with visiting Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Berlin. But Martin Schulz, leader of Gabriel's center-left Social Democrats, was less emollient earlier in the day when he told reporters Trump was "the destroyer of all Western values". He added that the U.S. president was undermining the peaceful cooperation of nations based on mutual respect and tolerance. In Rome, Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said he agreed with Merkel that Europe needed to forge its own path. "This takes nothing away from the importance of our trans-Atlantic ties and our alliance with the United States. But the importance we put on these ties cannot mean that we abandon fundamental principles such as our commitment to fight climate change and in favor of open societies and free trade," he said. (Additional reporting by Steve Scherer in Rome; writing by Paul Carrel; editing by Michael Nienaber/Mark Heinrich)

Lucylastic -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:22:28 PM)
how americentric of you Donald Trump has 'weakened' the West, hurt EU interests: German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel BERLIN: Germany unleashed a volley of criticism today against US President Donald Trump, slamming his "short-sighted" policies that have "weakened the West" and hurt European interests. The sharp words from Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel came after Trump concluded his first official tour abroad which took him to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Brussels and then Italy for a G7 summit. They followed Chancellor Angela Merkel's warning on Sunday that the United States and Britain may no longer be completely reliable partners. Germany's exasperation was laid bare after the G7 summit which wrapped up on Saturday with the US refusing so far to sign up to upholding the 2015 Paris climate accord. Days earlier, in Saudi Arabia, Trump had presided over the single largest US arms deal in American history, worth USD 110 billion over the next decade and including ships, tanks and anti-missile systems. Gabriel said today that "anyone who accelerates climate change by weakening environmental protection, who sells more weapons in conflict zones and who does not want to politically resolve religious conflicts is putting peace in Europe at risk" "The short-sighted policies of the American government stand against the interests of the European Union," he said, judging that "the West has become smaller, at least it has become weaker". "We Europeans must fight for more climate protection, fewer weapons and against religious (fanaticism), otherwise the Middle East and Africa will be further destabilised," Gabriel said. Germany's harsh words for Washington, traditionally a close ally, were highly unusual and came as .. relations have grown increasingly frosty. When Trump was inaugurated in January, Merkel had told the billionaire and former reality TV show star that cooperation would be on the basis of shared democratic values. The relationship between Merkel and Trump contrasts with the warm ties between her and former US president Barack Obama -- who last week travelled to Berlin to attend a key Protestant conference. Obama's participation in a forum with Merkel last Thursday came hours before her meeting with Trump in Brussels at the NATO summit. At the alliance's meeting on Thursday, Trump lambasted 23 of the alliance's 28 members -- including Germany -- for "still not paying what they should be paying" towards the funding of the bloc. After the NATO and G7 summits, Merkel said at an election rally in southern Germany that "the times in which we could completely depend on others are on the way out. I've experienced that in the last few days."

BamaD -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:39:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Merkel, minister stress U.S. ties after critical Trump tweet Reuters • By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski • 3 hours ago By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski BERLIN (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump called Germany's trade and spending policies "very bad" on Tuesday, intensifying a row between the longtime allies and immediately earning himself the moniker "destroyer of Western values" from a leading German politician. As the war of words threatened to spin out of control, Merkel and other senior German politicians stressed the importance of Germany's Atlantic ties, with Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel suggesting the spat was just a rough patch. Trump took to Twitter early in the day in the United States to attack Germany, a day after Chancellor Angela Merkel ramped up her doubts about the reliability of Washington as an ally. "We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change," Trump tweeted. The tit-for-tat dispute escalated rapidly after Trump, at back-to-back summits last week, criticized major NATO allies over their military spending and refused to endorse a global climate change accord. On Sunday, Merkel showed the gravity of her concern about Washington's dependability under Trump when she warned, at an election campaign event in a packed Bavarian beer tent - that the times when Europe could fully rely on others were "over to a certain extent". Those comments, which caused shock in Washington, vented Europe's frustration with Trump on climate policy in particular. And while German politicians sided with Merkel, Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel signaled that it was time for cooler heads to prevail. TIT-FOR-TAT, FROM TENT TO TWITTER "The United States are older and bigger than the current conflict," he said, adding that relations would improve. "It is inappropriate that we are now communicating with each other between a beer tent and Twitter," he said in Berlin. Merkel had already begun finessing her message on Monday, stressing that she was a "convinced trans-Atlanticist", a message she repeated after a meeting with visiting Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Berlin. But Martin Schulz, leader of Gabriel's center-left Social Democrats, was less emollient earlier in the day when he told reporters Trump was "the destroyer of all Western values". He added that the U.S. president was undermining the peaceful cooperation of nations based on mutual respect and tolerance. In Rome, Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said he agreed with Merkel that Europe needed to forge its own path. "This takes nothing away from the importance of our trans-Atlantic ties and our alliance with the United States. But the importance we put on these ties cannot mean that we abandon fundamental principles such as our commitment to fight climate change and in favor of open societies and free trade," he said. (Additional reporting by Steve Scherer in Rome; writing by Paul Carrel; editing by Michael Nienaber/Mark Heinrich) The Germans had gotten used to the U S taking a back seat and don't want us to change that.

Musicmystery -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:40:31 PM)
What part of Merkel's "Europe must go its own way without the US and UK" confused you?

tamaka -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:44:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Merkel, minister stress U.S. ties after critical Trump tweet Reuters • By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski • 3 hours ago By Thomas Escritt and Matthias Sobolewski BERLIN (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump called Germany's trade and spending policies "very bad" on Tuesday, intensifying a row between the longtime allies and immediately earning himself the moniker "destroyer of Western values" from a leading German politician. As the war of words threatened to spin out of control, Merkel and other senior German politicians stressed the importance of Germany's Atlantic ties, with Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel suggesting the spat was just a rough patch. Trump took to Twitter early in the day in the United States to attack Germany, a day after Chancellor Angela Merkel ramped up her doubts about the reliability of Washington as an ally. "We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change," Trump tweeted. The tit-for-tat dispute escalated rapidly after Trump, at back-to-back summits last week, criticized major NATO allies over their military spending and refused to endorse a global climate change accord. On Sunday, Merkel showed the gravity of her concern about Washington's dependability under Trump when she warned, at an election campaign event in a packed Bavarian beer tent - that the times when Europe could fully rely on others were "over to a certain extent". Those comments, which caused shock in Washington, vented Europe's frustration with Trump on climate policy in particular. And while German politicians sided with Merkel, Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel signaled that it was time for cooler heads to prevail. TIT-FOR-TAT, FROM TENT TO TWITTER "The United States are older and bigger than the current conflict," he said, adding that relations would improve. "It is inappropriate that we are now communicating with each other between a beer tent and Twitter," he said in Berlin. Merkel had already begun finessing her message on Monday, stressing that she was a "convinced trans-Atlanticist", a message she repeated after a meeting with visiting Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Berlin. But Martin Schulz, leader of Gabriel's center-left Social Democrats, was less emollient earlier in the day when he told reporters Trump was "the destroyer of all Western values". He added that the U.S. president was undermining the peaceful cooperation of nations based on mutual respect and tolerance. In Rome, Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said he agreed with Merkel that Europe needed to forge its own path. "This takes nothing away from the importance of our trans-Atlantic ties and our alliance with the United States. But the importance we put on these ties cannot mean that we abandon fundamental principles such as our commitment to fight climate change and in favor of open societies and free trade," he said. (Additional reporting by Steve Scherer in Rome; writing by Paul Carrel; editing by Michael Nienaber/Mark Heinrich) The Germans had gotten used to the U S taking a back seat and don't want us to change that. Yes Merkel wants the power.

Lucylastic -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:46:54 PM)
she is up for election soon, her opponent is Sigmar Gabriel if he wins, it will be even harder. Trump is fucking you over, congrats.

tamaka -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 2:54:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic she is up for election soon, her opponent is Sigmar Gabriel if he wins, it will be even harder. Trump is fucking you over, congrats. What will be harder?

kdsub -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:14:39 PM)
Lucy I can't say I like Trumps approach but how has Europe's policies been working for them? Butch

MrRodgers -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:14:58 PM)
Look, world leaders when in actual reality, it is truly necessary to rely upon back-channeling to get real things done NATO-wise, (G-7, G-20) are nothing but bobbing heads and even more so for the reality TV person, than at any other time. When back-channelers have their failures, they can and often deny any knowledge. When they have their successes, they can always get the 'boss' to sign on after the fact. What the regular (normal) world is now realizing is that they are dealing with this POTUS, acting as an intellectually challenged 16 yr. old HS sophomore and are now witnessing his juvenile antics and adolescence coming through. Pay no attention, as making little difference in the big picture of world affairs and...this too, will pass.

Lucylastic -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:22:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic she is up for election soon, her opponent is Sigmar Gabriel if he wins, it will be even harder. Trump is fucking you over, congrats. What will be harder? for trump to be relevant in the world leadership. America first is going to hurt you, not help you. He deferred to the muslims, and is in the process of destroying 70 years of allied people working together. I get it, you dont see whats going on, you are just believing the BS, this is big. its not roses and marshmallows, this is gonna hurt. talk about the blind leading the blind.

Lucylastic -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:24:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Lucy I can't say I like Trumps approach but how has Europe's policies been working for them? Butch Try doing some research if you dont get how BIG this actually is.

Lucylastic -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:34:19 PM)
[image]http://i.imgur.com/hxmFRO6.jpg[/image]

tamaka -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:39:12 PM)
Remember when they all marched after the Paris attacks, and Obama didn't participate?

Musicmystery -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 3:41:50 PM)
FFS

Dvr22999874 -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 4:07:05 PM)
The U.S. getting screwed ? By whom ? And if it SHOULD happen, I would guess a number of Europeans would possibly be reminding Trump and his little tail-waggers-club that Karma is a bitch.

Musicmystery -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 4:11:48 PM)
^ This.

tamaka -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 4:42:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 The U.S. getting screwed ? By whom ? And if it SHOULD happen, I would guess a number of Europeans would possibly be reminding Trump and his little tail-waggers-club that Karma is a bitch. Have you taken a look at our trade deficits for one thing.

vincentML -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 5:24:27 PM)
FR FFS . . . millions of military lives lost . . . . 70 years of constructive diplomacy, a solid transatlantic coalition that brought down the Soviet Union . . . all maybe blown to shit by one clumsy, ignorant, narcissistic president in a few days. unfukingbelievable [:'(]

Termyn8or -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 7:11:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic [image]http://i.imgur.com/hxmFRO6.jpg[/image] Showing more of that liberal maturity again ? Do you feeel that Photoshop is a really neato toy ? When you claim Trump is immature, act like a fucking adult or you got negative credibility. I would rather have lies than utter stupidity. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: More like based on the US getting screwed at every turn (5/30/2017 7:13:11 PM)
quote: Have you taken a look at our trade deficits for one thing. Liberals do not know addition and subtraction so it is like talking to a wall. T^T

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